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fitzfarm
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12/28/2013  8:09 PM
Bad*
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djsunyc
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12/28/2013  8:09 PM
fitzfarm wrote:We should be winning this game bad coaching

on offense, the knicks have no player that can score consistently. melo is the only real scorer and he's not super efficient.

jr smith + bargs can not be counted on.

right now, the only guy hitting shots regularly is hardaway jr but you can't structure an offense around him.

it's just a poorly constructed team. any team that can rebound will beat the knicks. it ain't even about defense, you just have to limit the team's touches and their shooting percentages take care of the rest.

and on defense, you can't have udrih + smith + bargs on the court at the same time and expect to make any stops.

the only reason it's now a 20 point deficit right now is b/c greivis vasquez is a scrub.
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12/28/2013  8:10 PM 
Halftime  
TOR 57 NYK 44
holfresh
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12/28/2013  8:10 PM
Chandler and Bargs have really poor footwork..They are always off balance under the basket when shooting a layup..They never seem to gather themselves under the rim..
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12/28/2013  8:11 PM
Thjr start second half?
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12/28/2013  8:16 PM
You have to play to the strengths of your players. Limit the weaknesses. Run more curls for THJ and PnR/PnP for Bargs n Tyson. Put Shooters around STAT and space the floor or have set the pick at the elbow to give him that midrange jumper. Woody's offense is to haphazard and lacks flow or purpose.
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12/28/2013  8:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  8:23 PM
nixluva wrote:You have to play to the strengths of your players. Limit the weaknesses. Run more curls for THJ and PnR/PnP for Bargs n Tyson. Put Shooters around STAT and space the floor or have set the pick at the elbow to give him that midrange jumper. Woody's offense is to haphazard and lacks flow or purpose.

Beno has not seen the roll guy in three games running, maybe once this game..Hubie Brown pointed that out three games ago...Tim Jr is a much better stationary shooter...Shooting off the dribble is so so for him...
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12/28/2013  8:21 PM
nixluva wrote:You have to play to the strengths of your players. Limit the weaknesses. Run more curls for THJ and PnR/PnP for Bargs n Tyson. Put Shooters around STAT and space the floor or have set the pick at the elbow to give him that midrange jumper. Woody's offense is to haphazard and lacks flow or purpose.

you have no pg. you can not keep running pick and roll b/c defenses can adjust and make it tough for the pg to do anything. if you had a pg that was a real threat, then you can do it but the 4 pg's on the roster don't instill any fear in any defense.
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12/28/2013  8:22 PM
Knicks will come out with no fire/attitude to immediately cut into the score. They will play as if they're comfortable......like they always do.
https://www.youtube.com/user/RPreston01/videos
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12/28/2013  8:25 PM 
3rd Qtr 11:45
TOR 57 NYK 44
nixluva
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12/28/2013  8:27 PM
There you go Shump!
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12/28/2013  8:28 PM
it's amazing how dolan negating the lowry trade probably changed the course of 2 teams.

knicks really need lowry and without lowry, the raptors would just be losing games left and right.
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12/28/2013  8:30 PM 
3rd Qtr 8:24
TOR 67 NYK 53
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12/28/2013  8:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  8:31 PM
djsunyc wrote:it's amazing how dolan negating the lowry trade probably changed the course of 2 teams.

knicks really need lowry and without lowry, the raptors would just be losing games left and right.

Why give up future picks, screw up future cap space, for lateral moves..
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12/28/2013  8:32 PM
No recognition of what the other team is doing. Why are our guards leaving Ross open rather than identifying the threat. JR is killing us on both ends.
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12/28/2013  8:33 PM
Seriously how hard is it to call out a pick? That's all you hear in pick up games at every park, gym, rec center, whatever! I don't understand how we almost never do it.
Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.
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12/28/2013  8:34 PM
Here, something to watch...

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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12/28/2013  8:35 PM 
3rd Qtr 7:08
TOR 71 NYK 55
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12/28/2013  8:37 PM
Shumpert plays good defense, JR Smith keeps ross open. Both suck on offense

Guess who woodson takes out?
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12/28/2013  8:37 PM
Fire Woodson.
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