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Papabear
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12/28/2013  12:31 PM
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

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LoL it's even Melo's fault when he dosen't play, And stop the BS about if Melo played we would have lost by 40. We would have won. We would have beat the Pacers if Shump did not make a bone head play. We lost several games by 2 3 or 1 point this season so keep your hate for Melo to yourself. This is starting to sound like the Ewing era over again. Melo is a future hall of fame whether you like it or not and if he leaves we go back to the dark ages again. Do you remember the 14 years before Melo came?

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12/28/2013  1:01 PM
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

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LoL it's even Melo's fault when he dosen't play, And stop the BS about if Melo played we would have lost by 40. We would have won. We would have beat the Pacers if Shump did not make a bone head play. We lost several games by 2 3 or 1 point this season so keep your hate for Melo to yourself. This is starting to sound like the Ewing era over again. Melo is a future hall of fame whether you like it or not and if he leaves we go back to the dark ages again. Do you remember the 14 years before Melo came?


Their Melo hate is so extreme that we lose to one of the worst teams in the league and people think the Knicks are watchable. These guys would definitely want Ewing gone too.
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12/28/2013  1:07 PM
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

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Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!

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12/28/2013  1:21 PM
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

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Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


He hasnt done it....the closest has been two 10 for 28 games, which were both losses.

bobcats and pacers games.
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12/28/2013  1:32 PM
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate
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12/28/2013  2:58 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

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I call it lying and trying to get his hate of Melo point across. Some people might believe that lie. He should have told the truth and that brings credibility which he has none of.

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12/28/2013  3:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  3:08 PM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

Papabear Says

I call it lying and trying to get his hate of Melo point across. Some people might believe that lie. He should have told the truth and that brings credibility which he has none of.


Somehow they are OK with exaggerating all the negatives. If however a fan brings up something these guys don't agree with then they will ask for all kinds of ridiculous stats to back it up. It's just lame!I have been relying on the ignore feature to filter out all the frequent offenders and it does help.
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12/28/2013  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  3:16 PM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

Papabear Says

I call it lying and trying to get his hate of Melo point across. Some people might believe that lie. He should have told the truth and that brings credibility which he has none of.

He's around 200th in shooting efficiency but first by wide margin in shot attempts. It's an exaggeration; not a lie.

And it's certainly not a lie to say that Melo didn't go 8 for 30 yesterday.
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12/28/2013  3:20 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Yea you trade Melo. We are not that far off from being watchable

Even JR is tolerable minus Melo

NAH, I didn't find them much more watchable, although not seeing carmelo out there was great for me... watching Jr smith, bargnani and just the lack of talent on this team isn't fun..

I say burn this mess and start over... until then... blah......

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/28/2013  3:24 PM
Silverfuel wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

LoL it's even Melo's fault when he dosen't play, And stop the BS about if Melo played we would have lost by 40. We would have won. We would have beat the Pacers if Shump did not make a bone head play. We lost several games by 2 3 or 1 point this season so keep your hate for Melo to yourself. This is starting to sound like the Ewing era over again. Melo is a future hall of fame whether you like it or not and if he leaves we go back to the dark ages again. Do you remember the 14 years before Melo came?


Their Melo hate is so extreme that we lose to one of the worst teams in the league and people think the Knicks are watchable. These guys would definitely want Ewing gone too.

Thank you!!!
This is exactly what I am thinking too. Is Melo perfect? no was Ewing? no but surround them with talent and we can win. The mess is GM/Owner's fault

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12/28/2013  4:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  4:19 PM
Leadership

BigRedDog - my man emann sums it up quite nicely

The game itself is quite simple ... Offensively you play inside out meaning you penetrate your guard who then kicks it back out to the forwards ... We play outside in meaning we take a 24 footer and hope the rebound lands somewhere inside. Which is why us having guards that can go baseline to baseline is so important.

We desperately need lead guards.

Not point guards or shooting guards.

Lead guards.

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12/28/2013  5:18 PM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

Papabear Says

I call it lying and trying to get his hate of Melo point across. Some people might believe that lie. He should have told the truth and that brings credibility which he has none of.

It is a slight exaggeration but you get the point... to call Guns a liar is ridiculous.

Dec 18 vs mil.. carmelo shot 9-29

Dec 13 vs Boston 9-24

nov 20 10-28

nov 13 9-25

nov 5 10-28

oct 31 8-24


so as you can see, Bonn was not far off at all, carmelo has put up some close to 8-30 games.. and when you look at it, I would hardly call that exaggerating , more close to reality..

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12/28/2013  5:57 PM
Thank You
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12/28/2013  6:00 PM
The point is, is this the guy you want to give $30mil to into his 30s?
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12/28/2013  6:01 PM
Or do you want to see a winning team after 2015?
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12/28/2013  6:09 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Or do you want to see a winning team after 2015?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. The real question is do we want to see a championship team in the next few years, which will never happen as long as Dolan owns the team.

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12/28/2013  7:28 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Did you feel that way on Christmas?

Typical knee-jerk thread. Where was this thread all of last year?

Unfortunately last year was an aberration. Do you think this current roster can play on that level? I say no way they can. Not happening. Our guards are horrendous on D, everyone else besides Chandler is bad on D, we can't rebound or protect the rim, and out offense is predicated on ISO's and long 2's. Basically, the worst possible way to try to score if you want to win the game.

Don't get me wrong I loved last season and hoped it would last into a run of a couple years of success, lord knows we deserved that as a fan base after suffering the previous 10 years of Layden, Dolan, and Isaiah induced pain. However, my eyes are now open and we will never be able to build around Melo for a litany of reasons which have been discussss as nauseum here. It sucks, but it's the reality.

You can't be an aberration for 82 games of a season. Last yrs team was what they were. Felton, Smith, Shumpert have all regressed. Udrih, Bargs & Artest don't compliment the team as much as Kidd, Novak & Cope did. Kidd's skill set, IQ, leadership complimented the skill set of Felton, Smith, Shumpert. I was hoping Shumpert could step up and take over Kidd's role for the team in his own way, but I also new that was to much to ask.

But I do agree that they won't get back to that level. Going for a high pick in 2015 and cap space seems like the best way to go. But that's not how the Knicks operate.

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12/28/2013  7:29 PM
Silverfuel wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

LoL it's even Melo's fault when he dosen't play, And stop the BS about if Melo played we would have lost by 40. We would have won. We would have beat the Pacers if Shump did not make a bone head play. We lost several games by 2 3 or 1 point this season so keep your hate for Melo to yourself. This is starting to sound like the Ewing era over again. Melo is a future hall of fame whether you like it or not and if he leaves we go back to the dark ages again. Do you remember the 14 years before Melo came?


Their Melo hate is so extreme that we lose to one of the worst teams in the league and people think the Knicks are watchable. These guys would definitely want Ewing gone too.

Hard to take these guys serious. Emotions override logic with some of these guys....
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12/28/2013  8:17 PM
Yet another watchable game by the Knicks..Down by 13 at the half but who cares, Melo isn't playing, yippee!!!
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12/28/2013  8:50 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:The only positive tonight is Melo didn't shoot 8 for 30 and we didn't get blown out by 40

Papabear Says

Stop lying!! Name the games that Melo went 8 for 30 this season. How many?? Name them Mr. Melo hater. Stop lying. You have no credibility. Name the games!!!


This will help you:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

Papabear Says

I call it lying and trying to get his hate of Melo point across. Some people might believe that lie. He should have told the truth and that brings credibility which he has none of.

He's around 200th in shooting efficiency but first by wide margin in shot attempts. It's an exaggeration; not a lie.

And it's certainly not a lie to say that Melo didn't go 8 for 30 yesterday.

Papabear Says

Show me the stats. Prove it to me. I guess it's Melo's fault they are loosing tonight??

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