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callmened
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12/17/2013  11:15 PM
Hmmmm? If murry is so good then why are the knicks calling up zero smith? He barely started in college and shouldnt hv made the team.

Now at first, one would think nepotism (favoritism towards JR), but it sounds like he and woody have beef now. Also, woody is trying to save his job now. So he needs to play murry, shump or whoever to save his job.

Again it concludes my theory that murry is in fact a shooting guard shaped like a PG. He can defend a pg or sg but cant play like a pg nor can he shoot (this goes back to me watching him in the summer league, preseason and four yrs of college). The fact that woody is calling up zero smith with his job on the line means the knicks are in bad bad bad shape. Smh

The real question is should the knicks move to get lowry by any means neceassary? I would love to see lowry in a knick uniform but at what cost

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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12/17/2013  11:29 PM
callmened wrote:Hmmmm? If murry is so good then why are the knicks calling up zero smith? He barely started in college and shouldnt hv made the team.

Now at first, one would think nepotism (favoritism towards JR), but it sounds like he and woody have beef now. Also, woody is trying to save his job now. So he needs to play murry, shump or whoever to save his job.

Again it concludes my theory that murry is in fact a shooting guard shaped like a PG. He can defend a pg or sg but cant play like a pg nor can he shoot (this goes back to me watching him in the summer league, preseason and four yrs of college). The fact that woody is calling up zero smith with his job on the line means the knicks are in bad bad bad shape. Smh

The real question is should the knicks move to get lowry by any means neceassary? I would love to see lowry in a knick uniform but at what cost

Ned don't you think Chris might be up because they need a practice player? Also, Isola just wrote an article saying Woodson didn't want Chris he wanted a vet. Woodson also advocated to keep Murry despite having three point guards. I don't think any personnel moves are controlled by Woodson and I don't know that his opinion has much weight at this point. He also wasn't allowed to choose his players minutes for awhile.
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12/17/2013  11:39 PM
I may get on Woody's case, but this franchise has done a horrible job of supporting their coaches. You can't hamstring a coach and then expect him to be at his best. We seem to never have the front office, GM and Coach all on the same page except for maybe brief periods of time.
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12/18/2013  10:54 AM
It's like the opposite of Linsanity...
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12/18/2013  11:22 AM
You guys instead of focus on what a sham it is should join is what has got to be a celebration of sorts for the Smith family!

Lil' Bro is now in the Show!!! Im sure the first thing the smith brothers will do is watch some video and get with the coach about how to best produce a strategy for how this duo can help the team win!!!!!

Or, run out and mark the occasion by getting some new ink!

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12/18/2013  11:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/18/2013  11:26 AM
nixluva wrote:I may get on Woody's case, but this franchise has done a horrible job of supporting their coaches. You can't hamstring a coach and then expect him to be at his best. We seem to never have the front office, GM and Coach all on the same page except for maybe brief periods of time.

That's usually the case in all sports with the exception of a few franchises. But with Woodson it comes down to his inability to make the correct decisions as far as rotations, play calling, timeouts, you can't blame management for that

Dolan maybe an idiot in terms of roster moves, but he is a very loyal man and he rewards loyalty from his players and staff.

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12/18/2013  12:06 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I may get on Woody's case, but this franchise has done a horrible job of supporting their coaches. You can't hamstring a coach and then expect him to be at his best. We seem to never have the front office, GM and Coach all on the same page except for maybe brief periods of time.

That's usually the case in all sports with the exception of a few franchises. But with Woodson it comes down to his inability to make the correct decisions as far as rotations, play calling, timeouts, you can't blame management for that

Dolan maybe an idiot in terms of roster moves, but he is a very loyal man and he rewards loyalty from his players and staff.

Woodson finished the year before 18-8 and we marched to playoffs.
Last year he was in the conversation for coach of the year winning 54.
Now at 7-17 he is a moron.

Is it the same roster? Injuries play a factor? Roster construction?
These are very important things and while out of emotion fans want to can him, and even the owner the facts/problems don't change. Do you chage the scheme and actually improve the dynamic? Or can it get worse?

.500 can get you in the playoffs in the east.

While Woodson might not ever be the long term answer for a team with championship aspirations I might suggest we take a good look in the mirror and access the situation.

Is woodson to take a mediocre team and get a lot out of them like he did last year? Did he really get the team to play over its heads?
Is woodson the guy to take a contending on paper roster and work the chemistry?
Is woodson the guy to take a young team and develop them?

What is the knicks? I don't think we know, and thus, why change. I don't think H20 brings anything (he is a coaches son) or does Herb that you already got in Woodson.

Does melo say "I want XXXXX and if you get him Im good to stay"? Do we blow it the phuch up for two years and get a "Brad stevens" kind of guy to grow into the job? You think we do a 180 and go in that diretion after we have little in high quality draft picks 2 of the next three years?

Fire woodson might make us feel better and get us talking about PHil Jax but this team is unsettled and I think woodson is the best guy to turn it around for NOW.

Dude had a bad game. it happens.

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12/18/2013  12:14 PM
This is ridiculous- we could give Kendal Marshall a shot, but instead we're stuck with Chris Smith due to his genetics. Marshall has his red flags, but at least he has more upside than Chris Smith.
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12/19/2013  11:11 PM
Lakers signed Kendall Marshall. Marshall was averaging 19 pts, 9.6 assists and 4.7 boards. C H R I S!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12/19/2013  11:14 PM
Knicks need to waive Chris and sign Seth Curry. Not sure why they dropped the ball with Marshall. The guy was a lottery pick and was compared to MJax.
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omg Chris Smith got called up!

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