NardDogNation wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

Indiana
Portland
Oklahoma City
Chicago
Miami wade
San antonio

Do u watch the nba?

none of those teams have won a championship building through the draft except san an, and I excluded them in my post..thats really 1 team out of 31..

portland.. off to a good start after 14 games but have been horrible and had multiple high picks.
OKC.. nice finals run..no champion ship ever
chicago.. d rose injury prone..deng..injury prone..the rest of there roster via trades or FA's no rings
miami... wade got his ring with the help of shaq and mourning..they certainly did not build through
the draft..don't mention lbj and bosh
Indian... hibbert via trade, david west FA,george hill,via trade

No ones building a championship through the draft Briggs thats your imagination..

And if you luck up and get a good high pick like a melo, stat, shaq, kg, LBJ, bosh, jennings, ect...there more likely to demand a trade or leave as a FA..don't kidd yourself buddy..

You have 3 years to build yourself a championship team or that roster is gone

Yeah and those teams have all been more successful than us. I much rather be them than be do what we've done.

We've had 1 good winning season in the last 13 and its smart to stay on course

All these trades and plans are for team who's goal and passion is to win a title. When has Mills or James Dolan give you just a glimpse of that possibility ?

This is not every owners goal to win it all, NY just so happen to be one of them.

If they interviewed every owner and ask them what is your goal and plan to win an NBA title most fans would be upset.

NardDogNation wrote:

playa2 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out , why do you guys think James Dolan plan is to win an NBA Championship ?

All these trades and plans are for team who's goal and passion is to win a title. When has Mills or James Dolan give you just a glimpse of that possibility ?

This is not every owners goal to win it all, NY just so happen to be one of them.

If they interviewed every owner and ask them what is your goal and plan to win an NBA title most fans would be upset.

They do stand to make more money the longer their teams are in the playoffs. I'm not sure why Dolan would be uninterested in building a real contender if a title run is profitable.

Huh, why do think LA Clippers owner went yrs without making the playoffs and made much money hand over fist. He tickled the fans ears with high draft choices(giving them false hope) and then got rid of them when it was time to pay them more than the rookie contract. SMH

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

You realize that we can resign our young players and, over time, they become veterans? I understand that's a somewhat difficult concept to grasp for a lot of Knicks fans since we never keep our picks. I believe David Lee, at 5 seasons, is the longest we've kept one of our own picks since drafting Charlie Ward back in 1994.

You're also ignoring that I kept our 2015 cap space so we can sign other players; ideally, I'm looking at Love, Rondo, and Marc Gasol though I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe Love is intent on staying in MN and he'll be unattainable; maybe we're able to resign Tyson to a cheap deal, under $10M/year, instead of throwing a near max to Gasol. The point is having a lot of cap space opens up all sorts of other possibilities for us.

The point is, right now we have an aging roster that's going nowhere. Three years ago we were a .500 team that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; two years ago we were a .500 that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; last year, except for a couple of hot weeks at the start and end of the season, we were a .500 team that got dumped handily in the 2nd round of the playoffs; this year we're 3-11 through the first 14 games of the season and look completely and totally outclassed by almost every team we've played. I don't want the next decade to be a repeat of the last. This plan, and plans that others have put forth, gets us much closer to title than we are right now.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

You realize that we can resign our young players and, over time, they become veterans? I understand that's a somewhat difficult concept to grasp for a lot of Knicks fans since we never keep our picks. I believe David Lee, at 5 seasons, is the longest we've kept one of our own picks since drafting Charlie Ward back in 1994.

You're also ignoring that I kept our 2015 cap space so we can sign other players; ideally, I'm looking at Love, Rondo, and Marc Gasol though I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe Love is intent on staying in MN and he'll be unattainable; maybe we're able to resign Tyson to a cheap deal, under $10M/year, instead of throwing a near max to Gasol. The point is having a lot of cap space opens up all sorts of other possibilities for us.

The point is, right now we have an aging roster that's going nowhere. Three years ago we were a .500 team that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; two years ago we were a .500 that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; last year, except for a couple of hot weeks at the start and end of the season, we were a .500 team that got dumped handily in the 2nd round of the playoffs; this year we're 3-11 through the first 14 games of the season and look completely and totally outclassed by almost every team we've played. I don't want the next decade to be a repeat of the last. This plan, and plans that others have put forth, gets us much closer to title than we are right now.

The New York Knick plan is we have Carmelo Anthony and you don't. Problem is its not a good plan. I dont care if Dolan runs the team--I just want him to understand that we need to build a full team that can sustain over 7-10 years. I think he saw what happened with Boston and has it in his mind that we will get three great stars with great role players--but even then he doesnt look at that the C's drafted Rondo Perkins etc... We cant suffocate ourselves on one contract like Amare when a doctor said he had 2 years. Hes in fantasy land that he thinks that players will want to come here--if anything Carmelo has a high probablity of leaving this awful situation. When we get Chandler back--we'll just have more chemistry issues. There is almost no way to win with our guards theyre terrible.

Yup. Not only did Boston draft Rondo and Perkins they got Allen by trading the 5th overall pick in the draft and got Garnett by trading a bunch of highly regarded prospects (Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green) plus a couple of future firsts. We have nowhere near those assets to trade.

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

You realize that we can resign our young players and, over time, they become veterans? I understand that's a somewhat difficult concept to grasp for a lot of Knicks fans since we never keep our picks. I believe David Lee, at 5 seasons, is the longest we've kept one of our own picks since drafting Charlie Ward back in 1994.

You're also ignoring that I kept our 2015 cap space so we can sign other players; ideally, I'm looking at Love, Rondo, and Marc Gasol though I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe Love is intent on staying in MN and he'll be unattainable; maybe we're able to resign Tyson to a cheap deal, under $10M/year, instead of throwing a near max to Gasol. The point is having a lot of cap space opens up all sorts of other possibilities for us.

The point is, right now we have an aging roster that's going nowhere. Three years ago we were a .500 team that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; two years ago we were a .500 that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; last year, except for a couple of hot weeks at the start and end of the season, we were a .500 team that got dumped handily in the 2nd round of the playoffs; this year we're 3-11 through the first 14 games of the season and look completely and totally outclassed by almost every team we've played. I don't want the next decade to be a repeat of the last. This plan, and plans that others have put forth, gets us much closer to title than we are right now.

The New York Knick plan is we have Carmelo Anthony and you don't. Problem is its not a good plan. I dont care if Dolan runs the team--I just want him to understand that we need to build a full team that can sustain over 7-10 years. I think he saw what happened with Boston and has it in his mind that we will get three great stars with great role players--but even then he doesnt look at that the C's drafted Rondo Perkins etc... We cant suffocate ourselves on one contract like Amare when a doctor said he had 2 years. Hes in fantasy land that he thinks that players will want to come here--if anything Carmelo has a high probablity of leaving this awful situation. When we get Chandler back--we'll just have more chemistry issues. There is almost no way to win with our guards theyre terrible.

Yup. Not only did Boston draft Rondo and Perkins they got Allen by trading the 5th overall pick in the draft and got Garnett by trading a bunch of highly regarded prospects (Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green) plus a couple of future firsts. We have nowhere near those assets to trade.

...and they still had guys coming off their bench like Toney Allen, Glen Davis and Leon Powe that were keys to their title runs. Their team building approach was comprehensive. We need to take a page out of their book.

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

You realize that we can resign our young players and, over time, they become veterans? I understand that's a somewhat difficult concept to grasp for a lot of Knicks fans since we never keep our picks. I believe David Lee, at 5 seasons, is the longest we've kept one of our own picks since drafting Charlie Ward back in 1994.

You're also ignoring that I kept our 2015 cap space so we can sign other players; ideally, I'm looking at Love, Rondo, and Marc Gasol though I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe Love is intent on staying in MN and he'll be unattainable; maybe we're able to resign Tyson to a cheap deal, under $10M/year, instead of throwing a near max to Gasol. The point is having a lot of cap space opens up all sorts of other possibilities for us.

The point is, right now we have an aging roster that's going nowhere. Three years ago we were a .500 team that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; two years ago we were a .500 that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; last year, except for a couple of hot weeks at the start and end of the season, we were a .500 team that got dumped handily in the 2nd round of the playoffs; this year we're 3-11 through the first 14 games of the season and look completely and totally outclassed by almost every team we've played. I don't want the next decade to be a repeat of the last. This plan, and plans that others have put forth, gets us much closer to title than we are right now.

The New York Knick plan is we have Carmelo Anthony and you don't. Problem is its not a good plan. I dont care if Dolan runs the team--I just want him to understand that we need to build a full team that can sustain over 7-10 years. I think he saw what happened with Boston and has it in his mind that we will get three great stars with great role players--but even then he doesnt look at that the C's drafted Rondo Perkins etc... We cant suffocate ourselves on one contract like Amare when a doctor said he had 2 years. Hes in fantasy land that he thinks that players will want to come here--if anything Carmelo has a high probablity of leaving this awful situation. When we get Chandler back--we'll just have more chemistry issues. There is almost no way to win with our guards theyre terrible.

Yup. Not only did Boston draft Rondo and Perkins they got Allen by trading the 5th overall pick in the draft and got Garnett by trading a bunch of highly regarded prospects (Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green) plus a couple of future firsts. We have nowhere near those assets to trade.

Exactly but hey picks and young players don't matter in NY. SMFH!!!!!!

NardDogNation wrote:

playa2 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

playa2 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out , why do you guys think James Dolan plan is to win an NBA Championship ?

All these trades and plans are for team who's goal and passion is to win a title. When has Mills or James Dolan give you just a glimpse of that possibility ?

This is not every owners goal to win it all, NY just so happen to be one of them.

If they interviewed every owner and ask them what is your goal and plan to win an NBA title most fans would be upset.

They do stand to make more money the longer their teams are in the playoffs. I'm not sure why Dolan would be uninterested in building a real contender if a title run is profitable.

Huh, why do think LA Clippers owner went yrs without making the playoffs and made much money hand over fist. He tickled the fans ears with high draft choices(giving them false hope) and then got rid of them when it was time to pay them more than the rookie contract. SMH

Sterling is a cheapskate. Dolan spent $100 million, multiple times on a lottery team. There is a big difference between both men and I think Dolan geniunely wants to win.

Dolan will spend the money necessary for a big shakeup. He knows it sparks a 1-2 year surge in interest (that is, money) from the millions of NYC fans who are desperate homers. That doesn't mean he wants to win a championship. It just means he knows he can turn a big immediate profit.

BRIGGS wrote:Indiana built through the draft. Hibert hill George. It's no argument. Saying wade or Kobe are not integral pieces of chips is not worth a responce

Yeah, but you have to draft smart- look at The Cavs and Twolves over the years- they burned through a tonne of great draft picks.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.

you think rebuilding is the way to go..give me an example of how that worked for one team outside of san an..

please give me a bunch of young players on a roster that went to the the nba finals..

You realize that we can resign our young players and, over time, they become veterans? I understand that's a somewhat difficult concept to grasp for a lot of Knicks fans since we never keep our picks. I believe David Lee, at 5 seasons, is the longest we've kept one of our own picks since drafting Charlie Ward back in 1994.

You're also ignoring that I kept our 2015 cap space so we can sign other players; ideally, I'm looking at Love, Rondo, and Marc Gasol though I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe Love is intent on staying in MN and he'll be unattainable; maybe we're able to resign Tyson to a cheap deal, under $10M/year, instead of throwing a near max to Gasol. The point is having a lot of cap space opens up all sorts of other possibilities for us.

The point is, right now we have an aging roster that's going nowhere. Three years ago we were a .500 team that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; two years ago we were a .500 that was annihilated in the 1st round of the playoffs; last year, except for a couple of hot weeks at the start and end of the season, we were a .500 team that got dumped handily in the 2nd round of the playoffs; this year we're 3-11 through the first 14 games of the season and look completely and totally outclassed by almost every team we've played. I don't want the next decade to be a repeat of the last. This plan, and plans that others have put forth, gets us much closer to title than we are right now.

The New York Knick plan is we have Carmelo Anthony and you don't. Problem is its not a good plan. I dont care if Dolan runs the team--I just want him to understand that we need to build a full team that can sustain over 7-10 years. I think he saw what happened with Boston and has it in his mind that we will get three great stars with great role players--but even then he doesnt look at that the C's drafted Rondo Perkins etc... We cant suffocate ourselves on one contract like Amare when a doctor said he had 2 years. Hes in fantasy land that he thinks that players will want to come here--if anything Carmelo has a high probablity of leaving this awful situation. When we get Chandler back--we'll just have more chemistry issues. There is almost no way to win with our guards theyre terrible.

yep, and that is not a good plan at all.. first of all, I don't think any team cares that we have him, or fears us because of him... and having him, on any team, has never lead to a team being a serious contender....so that plan is a fail..