nixluva wrote:You guys are missing the point. This isn't to say that there aren't times when running a pure Post up ISO isn't a good thing. It's about the over reliance on it and when it comes as a surprise to the rest of the team that is running something else. This isn't the old Hakeem or Duncan in the post days. Those were well executed and designed offenses.

Popovich switched to a version of MDA's offense a few years ago and it's worked great for them. Very few teams run a post offense like they used to back in the day. That style of offense calls for a post player that passes well and liberally. This isn't about Melo as much as it's about Melo, plus JR, which slants our offense too much towards a lack of ball and player movement. Also Melo having to recognize when he should pass, which is far more often than he actually does pass the ball. No to mention that his teammates aren't used to showing and getting in his sight lines. That isn't how they practice. STAT also does't pass out of post ups, so basically it's not a reliable function of this teams offense at all. Bad ISO is easy to defend and the stats prove it.

In essence we are saying the same thing. Its about mixing it up and not relying too much on one aspect of the offense. And I have to give you credit for finding a way to bring in MDA into the convo!

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:You guys are missing the point. This isn't to say that there aren't times when running a pure Post up ISO isn't a good thing. It's about the over reliance on it and when it comes as a surprise to the rest of the team that is running something else. This isn't the old Hakeem or Duncan in the post days. Those were well executed and designed offenses.

Popovich switched to a version of MDA's offense a few years ago and it's worked great for them. Very few teams run a post offense like they used to back in the day. That style of offense calls for a post player that passes well and liberally. This isn't about Melo as much as it's about Melo, plus JR, which slants our offense too much towards a lack of ball and player movement. Also Melo having to recognize when he should pass, which is far more often than he actually does pass the ball. No to mention that his teammates aren't used to showing and getting in his sight lines. That isn't how they practice. STAT also does't pass out of post ups, so basically it's not a reliable function of this teams offense at all. Bad ISO is easy to defend and the stats prove it.

In essence we are saying the same thing. Its about mixing it up and not relying too much on one aspect of the offense. And I have to give you credit for finding a way to bring in MDA into the convo!

Hey as long as it's relevant, i'll find a way! Can't accuse me of not being consistent

I could actually care less if we went inside with Melo 90% of the time if it was winning us games. I just hate the fact that Woody hasn't found more ways to get Melo off while keeping everyone else involved. When Woody goes heavy with Melo, he seems to dumb the offense down as opposed to finding slick ways to get Melo off, using screens and slick movement. Just a little misdirection goes a long way. We see almost no cutters in this offense, very little use of curls and down screens like MDA use to do with Jeffries and Novak, to get an open 3. There's just so little use of sound BB principles by Woody that could make ISO Melo work better.