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The Devil Speaks: James Dolan Gives First Interview in 7 Years
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CrushAlot
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11/22/2013  7:28 PM
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nixluva wrote:I'm actually curious now about his new modern approach to team building he's talking about. We'll probably see an example of this at the trade deadline. There will be a lot of HUGE decisions needing to be made over the next few years.

JD: I didn’t time it, per se, like that. I’m surprised other folks were surprised about this. The general manager’s work doesn’t really occur at that time of year. If you’re going to change general managers that’s probably the right time to do it. The next available trade date is Dec. 15. You’ve just finished free agency and all that. It’s a lull period. The timing didn’t really have much to do with that. It was more about an initiative I have going on with both teams that I hired McKinsey & Company [a Manhattan-based global management consulting firm] for, because as I’ve gotten to look at both our organizations, it’s become apparent that we really need to reprocess both teams. We were using a lot of — not old, but “classic” methods and now with technology, and what’s available to a team to help improve, I didn’t think we were taking advantage of those things.
MV: So in evaluating these business solutions you came to the conclusion Glen Grunwald was lacking and Steve Mills a better fit?
JD: I hired McKinsey in the summer, and Glen is more of a “classic” GM, and he just wasn’t the guy to lead this initiative for the team, and it had to be someone in that position who could do it because I wasn’t going to do it. It needed someone behind it, someone who understood it, and that just wasn’t Glen’s forte. I think he was a good general manager, he’s got a great eye for talent, he knows basketball well, but the job description changed.

So I wanna see what this new "Initiative" actually produces for this team. Dolan has put his money and faith behind these guys. Nothing else Dolan has done has worked. I can understand him wanting to try something new.

Thing that doesn't make sense is, how the heck is Steve Mills better qualified to lead these changes?!

Its either BS or someone lied to him and he believed it hook, line and sinker. Makes you wonder if he has a ginsu or shamwow.
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11/22/2013  8:36 PM
Maybe the Knicks will trade Melo at the deadline for efficient and multiple dimensional players using analytics
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11/22/2013  9:35 PM
Actually thought it was a good interview.
Ironic, in a way, greater empahsis on analytics/metrics, given brutally bad efficiency metrics for Melo specifically, and offense generally.
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11/22/2013  9:50 PM
Knicks22 wrote:Actually thought it was a good interview.
Ironic, in a way, greater empahsis on analytics/metrics, given brutally bad efficiency metrics for Melo specifically, and offense generally.

Dolan...metrics... its like flying pigs...

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11/22/2013  10:09 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Yea it's easier for me to buy that Grunwald was the first to suggest we move to a more analytical approach.

Mills? Ha! He has no GM experience. He was president of msg and handled the business and marketing side

I have no idea how he is the guy chosen to pull us out of this mess.

Unless he is going to hire a GM who is very good with the analytics maybe H20 has been doing his homework and is ready

Then I will give Mills credit. If he is the GM we are doomed. Things will hit rock bottom again

You mean the mess that grunwald build

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11/22/2013  10:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2013  10:17 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Yea it's easier for me to buy that Grunwald was the first to suggest we move to a more analytical approach.

Mills? Ha! He has no GM experience. He was president of msg and handled the business and marketing side

I have no idea how he is the guy chosen to pull us out of this mess.

Unless he is going to hire a GM who is very good with the analytics maybe H20 has been doing his homework and is ready

Then I will give Mills credit. If he is the GM we are doomed. Things will hit rock bottom again

You mean the mess that grunwald build

Did Grunwald sign Amare and Melo to $50mil per year counting against a $58mil cap?

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11/22/2013  10:23 PM
Snake also speaks...
http://nypost.com/2013/11/22/isiah-i-moved-on-everyone-else-should-do-the-same/
He is moving on... people be aware!!!
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11/22/2013  11:20 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Yea it's easier for me to buy that Grunwald was the first to suggest we move to a more analytical approach.

Mills? Ha! He has no GM experience. He was president of msg and handled the business and marketing side

I have no idea how he is the guy chosen to pull us out of this mess.

Unless he is going to hire a GM who is very good with the analytics maybe H20 has been doing his homework and is ready

Then I will give Mills credit. If he is the GM we are doomed. Things will hit rock bottom again

You mean the mess that grunwald build

Did Grunwald sign Amare and Melo to $50mil per year counting against a $58mil cap?

22 mil for this. It doesn't even show all of the turnovers on offense

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11/23/2013  7:52 AM
CrushAlot wrote:

22 mil for this. It doesn't even show all of the turnovers on offense

22 mil but no players traded, and no draft picks, and the dude works hard and doesn't complain. I'd look elsewhere first before blaming Amare.

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11/23/2013  7:58 AM
knickstorrents wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

22 mil for this. It doesn't even show all of the turnovers on offense

22 mil but no players traded, and no draft picks, and the dude works hard and doesn't complain. I'd look elsewhere first before blaming Amare.


Yeah, we could have amnestied him and this wouldn't even be an issue.
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11/23/2013  8:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/23/2013  8:08 AM
Easier said then done I suppose. When there are 2 paths, rest assured this organization WILL take the wrong one
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11/23/2013  9:50 AM
knickstorrents wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

22 mil for this. It doesn't even show all of the turnovers on offense

22 mil but no players traded, and no draft picks, and the dude works hard and doesn't complain. I'd look elsewhere first before blaming Amare.

Not sure what you call getting rid of or trading Jordan hill, 2012 first round pick,ZBo, DLee, Nate Robinson, Crawford, etc to have the right to have amare but the Knicks did give up a lot.

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11/23/2013  11:12 AM
Says it all really:

More than a decade ago, Dolan told me that the worst year he’s ever had owning the Knicks was — you might want to sit down for this one — 1999. Yes, the year the Knicks last reached the NBA Finals. Unlike Friday’s arranged Q&A, I actually had a follow-up question. It was something along the lines of, “Why’s that? You went to the Finals.”
Dolan never answered the follow-up, but I remember thinking at the time, “Man, this franchise is in trouble.”

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The Devil Speaks: James Dolan Gives First Interview in 7 Years

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