RonRon wrote:Also Hakeem can continue to work on D12, Melo, and even both Harden/Parson's post up games

by now, Melo should realize has needs to be a much more efficient player, and Hakeem can provide that with his training
Melo must be willing to make adjustments to his game but if Hakeem is there in practice, it could really help his development despite Melo's age

BTW, i don't think anyone will give Melo a near max contract, unless Lebron wants him and I HIGHLY DOUBT that, he likes ball movement and DEFENSE
And the only possible teams that would are the NYK's and a rebuilding team
I think he is worth 12m-15m at best, for his age and inabilities

I love hakeem ron, but guys like javele mcgee, and amare went there and I didn't notice a change.. seems like wasted time and money.. kobe worked with hakeem, but that was to refine superior footwork that kobe already had..

I see guys like mozgov and other bigs who have gotten better and never went to hakeem....

melo should have realized years ago his game needed to improve.. I doubt houston wants him, at a max deal and 30 years of age, trying to figure that out now.. that is just not how morey does business..

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

djsunyc wrote:find a desperate team and make a deal. target #1 for the knicks should be charlotte.

yup. also add Houston. They want to move Asik badly and looks like might be willing to move Lin to move Asik as well.

let me ask this.. if you had asik and lin, honestly, what on the knicks would you want for both?

Here is a 3 way blockbuster trade...

NY Knicks
Outgoing
Carmelo Anthony
Incoming
Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Greg Smith, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, 2014 CHA 2nd Rd Pick

Houston Rockets
Outgoing
Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Ronnie Brewer, Donatas Montiejunas, Greg Smith
Incoming
Al Jefferson, Cody Zeller, 2014 CHA 1st Rd Pick

Charlotte Bobcats
Outgoing
Al Jefferson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cody Zeller, 2014 1st RD Pick, 2014 2nd RD Pick
Incoming
Carmelo Anthony, Donatas Montiejunas, Ronnie Brewer

I think this helps all teams.

Knicks - Get a boatload of talent and diff parts to build the team. We actually get 3 starters and a young backup PF.
Projected Lineup
PG-Lin
SG-Shump
SF-MKG
PF-Bargs
C-Asik
Bench - Greg Smith, MWP, Pablo, Felton, JR Smith, Aldrich, Hardaway JR, Beno

Houston - They get their PF to run with Dwight. They also get a young C in Zeller that can also play with Dwight and a very valuable 1st RD pick. They get rid of Asik. The only blemish is losing Lin but they have Beverley, Brooks and Cannan.
Projected Lineup
PG-Beverley
SG-Harden
SF-Parsons
PF-Jefferson
C-Dwight
Bench-Zeller, Garcia, Brooks, TJones, Casspi

Charlotte - They get their superstar to make their team relevant. A young stretch 4 that should play well skillset wise with Melo. Brewer is contract filler. Only costing them Jefferson, MKG, Zeller and a 1st rd pick.
Projected Lineup
PG-Kemba Walker
SG-Henderson
SF-Melo
PF-Donata Montiejunas
C-McRoberts
Bench-Biyombo, Gordon, Sessions, Tolliver, Adrien

Wow you guys are sipping on some new Koolaid flavor called "Crazy Hope"

What would the Bobcats do with a 1 year rental and what would they be willing to pay as a GM?
I don't see the Bobcats are Melo being a ideal place for either the Bobcats or Melo...

Without giving up their STAR, these are the teams that might have interest in Melo but which are the ones that have what we would want back?
Teams like Houston, Twolves, maybe Suns/New Orleans/Portland/Dallas/Detroit?, since they have good records, San Antonio?, teams that could use a scorer that would be title contenders with the addition of him or could look to starphuq with the "name"

Wizards, I am not so sure, maybe, but I don't see how they can match his salary while still having the talent around them to contend.....
Wonder if Denver would take him back, I would love Wilson Chandler back and a hurt Gallo, with a draft pick
It is basically for Denver to get both Gallo and Chandler's contract's off the books, than actually getting Melo back, they probably would even prefer him to opt out, so they can once again get under the cap, and retool with cap space/flexibility, even dealing off some of their young players and cheap contracts in Nate, Foye, AR, MosGov, and Faried

I always valued Wilson Chandler over Gallo when they were Knick's because of Chandler's versatility on both ends and because he is a better rebounder/defender and far more explosive/athletic
He has the ability to penetrate off the dribble to finish at the 4, post up on 3's, and hit a wide open 3pter
He is the type of player that we still have not replaced along with a backup C of MosGoV's skillset and size
More importantly he was always under rated and did Gallo had more "value" with the higher ceiling and a greater trading chip, while Chandler is a type of player that is great to have, basically a poor version between a younger Marion/Gereld Wallace

For Philly, I would demand Spencer Hawes in any package
He is a poor version of Kevin Love at the C position while Love is a PF/C

Assuming we can trade Melo for some asset's, and draft picks
IF we can clear cap space, I wonder if we can, sign both Kevin Love and Aldridge to both play PF/C TOGETHER
They both have great shooting ability, with good athleticism/size/reach and both have the ability to POST UP, Alridge basically has KG and Bosh's mid range shot, right under the 3pt line, with great post up ability from the mid range as well, signing lets say them and a PG or Rudy Gay as our core
with Duncan coming over with Poppavich to mentor them for a year as a backup C

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

djsunyc wrote:find a desperate team and make a deal. target #1 for the knicks should be charlotte.

yup. also add Houston. They want to move Asik badly and looks like might be willing to move Lin to move Asik as well.

let me ask this.. if you had asik and lin, honestly, what on the knicks would you want for both?

Here is a 3 way blockbuster trade...

NY Knicks
Outgoing
Carmelo Anthony
Incoming
Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Greg Smith, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, 2014 CHA 2nd Rd Pick

Houston Rockets
Outgoing
Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Ronnie Brewer, Donatas Montiejunas, Greg Smith
Incoming
Al Jefferson, Cody Zeller, 2014 CHA 1st Rd Pick

Charlotte Bobcats
Outgoing
Al Jefferson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cody Zeller, 2014 1st RD Pick, 2014 2nd RD Pick
Incoming
Carmelo Anthony, Donatas Montiejunas, Ronnie Brewer

I think this helps all teams.

Knicks - Get a boatload of talent and diff parts to build the team. We actually get 3 starters and a young backup PF.
Projected Lineup
PG-Lin
SG-Shump
SF-MKG
PF-Bargs
C-Asik
Bench - Greg Smith, MWP, Pablo, Felton, JR Smith, Aldrich, Hardaway JR, Beno

Houston - They get their PF to run with Dwight. They also get a young C in Zeller that can also play with Dwight and a very valuable 1st RD pick. They get rid of Asik. The only blemish is losing Lin but they have Beverley, Brooks and Cannan.
Projected Lineup
PG-Beverley
SG-Harden
SF-Parsons
PF-Jefferson
C-Dwight
Bench-Zeller, Garcia, Brooks, TJones, Casspi

Charlotte - They get their superstar to make their team relevant. A young stretch 4 that should play well skillset wise with Melo. Brewer is contract filler. Only costing them Jefferson, MKG, Zeller and a 1st rd pick.
Projected Lineup
PG-Kemba Walker
SG-Henderson
SF-Melo
PF-Donata Montiejunas
C-McRoberts
Bench-Biyombo, Gordon, Sessions, Tolliver, Adrien

won't work.. last year with asik, I could see Al jefferson, but not now with dwight.. I honestly see ryan anderson in a rockets uniform, perfect fit with that team and dwight.. jefferson takes up space in the post.. Anderson doesn't..

The biggest problem I have is that you left us with bargnani at PF, any deal that does not get him off this team is a fail to me... if you move carmelo, move bargnani as well..

the rest of that lineup, I am ok with.. the back court of lin and shump is one I always wanted.... and get woodson out of here as he has messed with shump too much..

MKG at SF is a nice option going forward as I think he gives us a potential two way stud... potential..

Asik is fine at center, but we will need to address the PF situation.... Al jefferson would fit fine there but not my long term solution...

I do like the direction you are going in, but please, never again pencil bargnani in as our PF... lol

OK..then add Bargs to the deal.

NY Incoming
Asik, Lin, Greg Smith, Al Jefferson, MKG, 2014 CHAR 2nd Rd Pick
NY Outgoing
Melo, Bargs

Houston Incoming
Bargs, Zeller, 2014 CHA 1st Rd Pick
Houston Outgoing
Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Ronnie Brewer, Donatas Montiejunas, Greg Smith

Charlotte Incoming
Carmelo Anthony, Donatas Montiejunas
Charlotte Outgoing
Al Jefferson, MKG, Zeller, 1st Rd Pick, 2nd Rd Pick

I can work with that..... not bad bocker....

now lets get dolan and mills email address.. LOL.. I got your back on this one...

EnySpree wrote:If things really get that bad the Knicks should really consider stuff like that. Sacramento and even a team like new Orleans. New Orleans with Melo is a title contender. I'd take tyreke turner and Ryan Anderson for Melo

I wouldn't. If Evans can't perform as a 2nd unit player, what are the odds he can be the cornerstone of our franchise in the pressure cooker that is New York?

djsunyc wrote:here's a simpler trade that serves a purpose for both teams...

kyle lowry for felton + shumpert.

The Raptors already have a stockpile of talented swingmen. I personally think that Terrence Ross and Dermarcus Derozan have all-star potential and easily are better than Iman.

BRIGGS wrote:That would put Melo at home with John Wall Nene Gortat--that is a better team than we had when we won 54 games with--I think Melo would do that. Washington would do that in a nano second and I think Philly would be interested as they dont want to pay Turner.

Turner has expressed his frustration about a lack of an extension, multiple times this season. I think the Sixers would be foolish letting him go but I think it's clear that he, as a player, has one foot out the door if they refuse to meet his contract demands. Overall, I think your proposal is pretty good but don't think Washington would give away so many picks. They would most definitely jump at the opportunity to acquire Melo.