knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

Where were you 13 years before that win??? I guess you loved those loosing years. Maybe you want to relive those 13 years again??

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think if Stern could get Dolan out it would have happened. He had a hard time getting Isiah out despite his destroying the franchise and being found guilty of sexual harassment.

If stern won't get rid of a disgrace like the clippers owner, he ain't getting rid of Dolan

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

Papabear Says

Whenever someone like TKF has something to say and it's all negative and the team is doing bad you don't have to be a rocket scientist to pull something negative he said may be true because every thing he says is negative. Briggs you speak for yourself and not for this forum. TKF is what he is and that won't change a thing.

You could learn a lot from Briggs' modesty

Do you remember when Briggs and TKF got into awhile back. No modesty between either of them back then. Papa is just responding to a thread praising a guy that hasn't been able to see anything good in the Knicks since Gallo was traded.

Yeah, Papa can't handle one person praising TKF and has to take a dump on the thread.

Yes payback is a bit@h. This a respond to all the threads that TKF craped on.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

Papabear Says

Whenever someone like TKF has something to say and it's all negative and the team is doing bad you don't have to be a rocket scientist to pull something negative he said may be true because every thing he says is negative. Briggs you speak for yourself and not for this forum. TKF is what he is and that won't change a thing.

You could learn a lot from Briggs' modesty

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn I modesty stand by what I say. Dolan started this drama and Woody so in love with JR Smith and the Chriss Smith deal the Shump drama and what do you have?? You have a big problem and it goes back to last season to Copeland Woody dogged him wouldn't play him and management too stupid to put a one year option in his contract so we could have him this year. Yes we have a problem now but we will get through it this season. If we panic now and start making frantic moves we can be set back 5 years or more. If we blow up the team do you trust Dolan to do the right thing? Remember we have not won a championship in 40 years. So if you don't like whats going on and you don't have the money to make an offer that Dolan can't refuse you might as well stop belly aching and let's see what happens. If not just find another team to root for and be done with it.

So you're giving other posters advice now?

Bonn Bonn LOL I must be posting about some one else Briggs is talking about TFK Oh I'm posting about TKF the hater.

Papabear wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

Papabear Says

Where were you 13 years before that win??? I guess you loved those loosing years. Maybe you want to relive those 13 years again??

djsunyc wrote:not signing lin should've been the last straw.

the team dumps picks like they're going out of a style...then a young talent pg falls into your laps...the nba rules in your favor to keep him...and you simply let him walk. there is no hope for this organization.

going back to 2002, the knicks are a .500 and less team outside of 2.5 months last year.

smackeddog wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

I enjoyed 1996, 1997 and 1998- we didn't get out of the second round in those, so i guess those were terrible years of failure too.

If you only saw the playoff losses, then you missed all the regular season wins. Why do you even watch the regular season?

smackeddog wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

I enjoyed 1996, 1997 and 1998- we didn't get out of the second round in those, so i guess those were terrible years of failure too.

If you only saw the playoff losses, then you missed all the regular season wins. Why do you even watch the regular season?

for me it is to see whether the team is playoff-worthy, or moving in that direction.

the knicks have not been playoff-worthy since dolan took over, except for last season which was fool's gold all along, as some pointed out during the course of that season. first round exits just add to melo's overall failure as a player.

"moving in the right direction" was really the half-season after stoudemire was signed. short-lived because of two different reasons, the first being the trade and the second being the shelf life of stoudemire. still, in retrospect the team would be in a better position to continue building had the melo trade not happened.

this season? it was really about waiting for the very real probability of implosion. i have explained many times now why this was bound to happen.

smackeddog wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

I enjoyed 1996, 1997 and 1998- we didn't get out of the second round in those, so i guess those were terrible years of failure too.

If you only saw the playoff losses, then you missed all the regular season wins. Why do you even watch the regular season?

The regular season doesnt mean squat to me as a fan.

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:If Tyson was healthy I think minimally this team is at .500 and this post doesn't exist.

+ 1000

Exactly.

knickscity wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Dude you were right on about the Knicks--I give you credit. I believed that we would be better off with Bargs from that 54 win team--but Ive been fooled by what I thought we would have compared to reality. Reality is we had a one year phenomonom based on having a bunch of older winning vets led by Jason Kidd who changed this team. I guess the first marker I shouldve seen was the resigning of JR Smith than the adding of his brother who DID not make this team by his play. Vet signings this year were similar to that of Brooklyn--guys who may have stepped over their peaks into the direction of career ending downslopes --you nailed it dude.

this is a refreshing approach... giving props to posters who have demonstrated prescience based on a good understanding of the game... and human nature. other than being a bunch of mismatched parts the knicks lack morale and leadership.

thanks for being generous and not stingy!

I second this. TKF, you deserve props, BRIGGS as well for stepping up.
No mitches in this thread!!

TKF has gotten a lot of grief in the past but he has been pretty accurate about this team so far

Papabear Says

What happened last year?? He was the same old hater he is now. I will remember this day down the road. Sure the knicks have problems and the playing stinks but when management do what they did with Chriss Smith is showed me that they was more about money. The Knicks will come back and this season they will come back. It's very easy to predict something when it's dome and gloom and the team is playing bad. I give TKF nothing. F*#k the props.

I'm curious, what did happen last year? All I saw was a second round collapse.

Maybe Shumpert shouldnt have said the team failed, perhaps he wouldnt be on his way out for telling the truth.

I enjoyed 1996, 1997 and 1998- we didn't get out of the second round in those, so i guess those were terrible years of failure too.

If you only saw the playoff losses, then you missed all the regular season wins. Why do you even watch the regular season?

I watch alot of basketball, not just the Knicks. The thing is I would like for my team to not be someones bitch in the playoffs.

The regular season doesnt mean squat to me as a fan.

Then why do you watch it? Why do you post about it?

Fair weather fans- oh I will only support the team if we are guaranteed to win a championship! Oh but in hard times I'll just give up! Oh I won't support any player through struggles!