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When Will We Begin to Revisit the Rondo Trade Scenarios?
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NardDogNation
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11/6/2013  6:48 PM
magicTs wrote:
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magicTs wrote:New to the forum but first thing I looked for was any threads about the point guard situation. The sad reality for me is that despite other faults until Felton is replaced with someone who is genuinely elite this team will do absolutely nothing. At times he is capable and he had a decent enough 2012-13 season but he is just never going to be good enough to get us anywhere further than a quick play off exit (at best). He is way too inconsistent and just doesn't have the drive, focus and extra edge of the top PG's. As soon as the Pierce/Garnett trade happened the Rondo move was mooted and for me its an excellent and exciting option. His attitude and abilities are a huge upgrade on Felton and he would be an excellent support for Melo. Whilst there may not be an obvious and straightforward trade with the Celtics it should be looked at seriously as the team is going nowhere with Felton steering it.

Welcome to the forum. I totally agree with your reasoning, which is why I think we need to target Rondo in trade discussions if we decide that we're all in with Melo. The next few months should be interesting because something MUST be done.

Thanks, glad to be a part of it. Having read your subsequent posts as well I totally agree with what you are saying. There is without question a risk - reward to consider with any trade for Rondo but for me you nail it there with "something MUST be done" - simple as that. I started a thread in which I mentioned the upcoming schedule and its not out with the realms of possibility that we could be in complete crisis in 2 weeks time. Its either do something drastic or sleepwalk our way through this season an average, mediocre, listless looking side, possibly scrape into the play offs only to lose straightaway. We need to be much more dynamic and for me that key role has to come from the PG position and as much as I have pulled for him Felton just does not have that ability or class.

Do you think Woodson can get the best out of Rondo or do you think we need to get rid of Woodson altogether?

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magicTs
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11/6/2013  7:43 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
magicTs wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
magicTs wrote:New to the forum but first thing I looked for was any threads about the point guard situation. The sad reality for me is that despite other faults until Felton is replaced with someone who is genuinely elite this team will do absolutely nothing. At times he is capable and he had a decent enough 2012-13 season but he is just never going to be good enough to get us anywhere further than a quick play off exit (at best). He is way too inconsistent and just doesn't have the drive, focus and extra edge of the top PG's. As soon as the Pierce/Garnett trade happened the Rondo move was mooted and for me its an excellent and exciting option. His attitude and abilities are a huge upgrade on Felton and he would be an excellent support for Melo. Whilst there may not be an obvious and straightforward trade with the Celtics it should be looked at seriously as the team is going nowhere with Felton steering it.

Welcome to the forum. I totally agree with your reasoning, which is why I think we need to target Rondo in trade discussions if we decide that we're all in with Melo. The next few months should be interesting because something MUST be done.

Thanks, glad to be a part of it. Having read your subsequent posts as well I totally agree with what you are saying. There is without question a risk - reward to consider with any trade for Rondo but for me you nail it there with "something MUST be done" - simple as that. I started a thread in which I mentioned the upcoming schedule and its not out with the realms of possibility that we could be in complete crisis in 2 weeks time. Its either do something drastic or sleepwalk our way through this season an average, mediocre, listless looking side, possibly scrape into the play offs only to lose straightaway. We need to be much more dynamic and for me that key role has to come from the PG position and as much as I have pulled for him Felton just does not have that ability or class.

Do you think Woodson can get the best out of Rondo or do you think we need to get rid of Woodson altogether?

Hmmm tricky question ! I suppose it may come down to how the next few weeks evolve as I guess my prediction right now is things are going to get worse before they can get better. With the Tyson injury, the lack of form at both ends of the court, chemistry issues and a difficult upcoming schedule I think big decisions are going to need to be made sooner rather than later. If the next week or two go badly and Dolan's mood is has already been reported I'm not so sure how long Woodson will last as Dolan will want to be seen to take action especially if the booing continues at home (Spurs and Rockets next up at MSG!). That being the case its also possible he will try to make a big trade to appease the fans. Its possible that could be Rondo or something else from right field but getting back to your question yes I think Woodson has the capability to get the best out of Rondo but I genuinely believe he would come to NY with a lot to prove particularly with the other Pierce and Garnett in BK. I think he would come with a hunger, the opportunity to be a key leader in the team, perhaps surpassing Melo as the most important player. Of course its possibly an even more difficult question as to who the next coach would be mind you - personally I like the Van Gundy's but appreciate that might not be a universally held view !

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11/6/2013  8:20 PM
magicTs wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
magicTs wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
magicTs wrote:New to the forum but first thing I looked for was any threads about the point guard situation. The sad reality for me is that despite other faults until Felton is replaced with someone who is genuinely elite this team will do absolutely nothing. At times he is capable and he had a decent enough 2012-13 season but he is just never going to be good enough to get us anywhere further than a quick play off exit (at best). He is way too inconsistent and just doesn't have the drive, focus and extra edge of the top PG's. As soon as the Pierce/Garnett trade happened the Rondo move was mooted and for me its an excellent and exciting option. His attitude and abilities are a huge upgrade on Felton and he would be an excellent support for Melo. Whilst there may not be an obvious and straightforward trade with the Celtics it should be looked at seriously as the team is going nowhere with Felton steering it.

Welcome to the forum. I totally agree with your reasoning, which is why I think we need to target Rondo in trade discussions if we decide that we're all in with Melo. The next few months should be interesting because something MUST be done.

Thanks, glad to be a part of it. Having read your subsequent posts as well I totally agree with what you are saying. There is without question a risk - reward to consider with any trade for Rondo but for me you nail it there with "something MUST be done" - simple as that. I started a thread in which I mentioned the upcoming schedule and its not out with the realms of possibility that we could be in complete crisis in 2 weeks time. Its either do something drastic or sleepwalk our way through this season an average, mediocre, listless looking side, possibly scrape into the play offs only to lose straightaway. We need to be much more dynamic and for me that key role has to come from the PG position and as much as I have pulled for him Felton just does not have that ability or class.

Do you think Woodson can get the best out of Rondo or do you think we need to get rid of Woodson altogether?

Hmmm tricky question ! I suppose it may come down to how the next few weeks evolve as I guess my prediction right now is things are going to get worse before they can get better. With the Tyson injury, the lack of form at both ends of the court, chemistry issues and a difficult upcoming schedule I think big decisions are going to need to be made sooner rather than later. If the next week or two go badly and Dolan's mood is has already been reported I'm not so sure how long Woodson will last as Dolan will want to be seen to take action especially if the booing continues at home (Spurs and Rockets next up at MSG!). That being the case its also possible he will try to make a big trade to appease the fans. Its possible that could be Rondo or something else from right field but getting back to your question yes I think Woodson has the capability to get the best out of Rondo but I genuinely believe he would come to NY with a lot to prove particularly with the other Pierce and Garnett in BK. I think he would come with a hunger, the opportunity to be a key leader in the team, perhaps surpassing Melo as the most important player. Of course its possibly an even more difficult question as to who the next coach would be mind you - personally I like the Van Gundy's but appreciate that might not be a universally held view !

I agree about the Van Gundy's being a good option. Always liked both and JVG is just good ol' JVG. He would need a smart offensive minded assistant though.

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11/6/2013  8:22 PM
Although I don't think any of those two could stand working for MSG/Dolan.. Or if they'd be able to keep they're mouths shut about our neverending shenanigans
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11/7/2013  9:33 AM
Nalod wrote:Wait, Rondo makes us Elite? Dude is DL with ACL and he makes us Elite?

A player whose biggest strenght is his quickness.

Its not his fundamentals
Not his personality
Not his shooting touch
Not his lockerroom goodness.

Its his athletic prowess and he is DL with ACL.

And fans think this guy can save the season?

Phuching delusional!

It's very simple, UK somber math:

[insert any player with any level of name recognition/history of possible eliteness] > Melo
When he plays,
Rondo's got dimes!
Rondo's efficient!

Rondo's ummm, not Melo!

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11/16/2013  11:14 PM
Sorry to say but another game another (home) defeat and a glaring issue (among several) once again the performance at PG. We are going nowhere with Felton playing the minutes and having the role he does. Occasional good performances are not what we need and they have to find the trade to sort it.
When Will We Begin to Revisit the Rondo Trade Scenarios?

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