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DurzoBlint
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8/9/2013  10:06 AM
misterearl wrote:Amare will look sharp in some custom made suits

He is done.

Did somebody say jeremy Tyler?

THAT to me is the only bright spot....that he won't be taking much if any time away from the young guys. Has anyone heard if Jordan was invited to camp?

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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RonRon
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8/9/2013  10:47 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I agree but I think Shumpert will give you more penetration and kick outs and smart passes than JR who will be chucking away on contested turn arounds.

He is a chucker but, I don't think JR is as bad as you think he is(or not as bad as you may think). Novak did credit JR as the one who most often set him up for his 3's. I think JR is a better facilitator than Shump is right now.

You must feel like I'm stalking you but, just coincidence, I assure you

agreed, good post, JR really improved much last season and added different elements to his game that improves his team mates on the court
Yes he has flaws, but for his salary and our inability to use his salary for another player instead, he is a complete steal and under paid
His penetration and finishing, penetration and dish outs, facilitating and looking to utilize the shooters on the floor *and I felt he should have played more with Copeland because they compliment each other especially vs Pacers*, and even rebounding and defense
I love Iman Shumpert but he is far from JR's abilities on offense while Iman still has the ability/potential to improve, and he has the better BB IQ/TEAM CONCEPT, he is far from JR's offensive/facilitating skills


Yes, he reverted back to the step back jumper and wasn't able to penetrate consistently vs playoff contenders *but you must also credit Pacer's strong DEFENSE both 1v1 DEFENSE and the help DEFENSE in Hibbert*, but I blame Woodson for not utilizing Copeland to draw Hibbert out of the paint to counter this
JR was clearly our #2 option during the season but he also was clearly our best all round scorer/play maker as well, deserving to start with the players that have the abilities to score instead of putting him in without the scorers to compliment his abilities to facilitate

With AB, Woodson has a 2nd chance to change his philosophies, and clearly upgraded our PG rotation with Udrih as a playmaker/scorer
In my opinion, for us to be serious championship contenders, JR should probably be somewhere between 3rd-5th option while utilizing more of his abilities to facilitate with enough shooters/scorers on the floor for spacing, while even focusing much energy on DEFENSE and REBOUNDING at times

ChuckBuck
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8/9/2013  10:54 AM
RonRon wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I agree but I think Shumpert will give you more penetration and kick outs and smart passes than JR who will be chucking away on contested turn arounds.

He is a chucker but, I don't think JR is as bad as you think he is(or not as bad as you may think). Novak did credit JR as the one who most often set him up for his 3's. I think JR is a better facilitator than Shump is right now.

You must feel like I'm stalking you but, just coincidence, I assure you

agreed, good post, JR really improved much last season and added different elements to his game that improves his team mates on the court
Yes he has flaws, but for his salary and our inability to use his salary for another player instead, he is a complete steal and under paid
His penetration and finishing, penetration and dish outs, facilitating and looking to utilize the shooters on the floor *and I felt he should have played more with Copeland because they compliment each other especially vs Pacers*, and even rebounding and defense
I love Iman Shumpert but he is far from JR's abilities on offense while Iman still has the ability/potential to improve, and he has the better BB IQ/TEAM CONCEPT, he is far from JR's offensive/facilitating skills


Yes, he reverted back to the step back jumper and wasn't able to penetrate consistently vs playoff contenders *but you must also credit Pacer's strong DEFENSE both 1v1 DEFENSE and the help DEFENSE in Hibbert*, but I blame Woodson for not utilizing Copeland to draw Hibbert out of the paint to counter this
JR was clearly our #2 option during the season but he also was clearly our best all round scorer/play maker as well, deserving to start with the players that have the abilities to score instead of putting him in without the scorers to compliment his abilities to facilitate

With AB, Woodson has a 2nd chance to change his philosophies, and clearly upgraded our PG rotation with Udrih as a playmaker/scorer
In my opinion, for us to be serious championship contenders, JR should probably be somewhere between 3rd-5th option while utilizing more of his abilities to facilitate with enough shooters/scorers on the floor for spacing, while even focusing much energy on DEFENSE and REBOUNDING at times

Hope JR is back to 100%, so he can attack the rim like he did last year, which made him so successful through most of last year.

StarksEwing1
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8/9/2013  10:56 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
RonRon wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I agree but I think Shumpert will give you more penetration and kick outs and smart passes than JR who will be chucking away on contested turn arounds.

He is a chucker but, I don't think JR is as bad as you think he is(or not as bad as you may think). Novak did credit JR as the one who most often set him up for his 3's. I think JR is a better facilitator than Shump is right now.

You must feel like I'm stalking you but, just coincidence, I assure you

agreed, good post, JR really improved much last season and added different elements to his game that improves his team mates on the court
Yes he has flaws, but for his salary and our inability to use his salary for another player instead, he is a complete steal and under paid
His penetration and finishing, penetration and dish outs, facilitating and looking to utilize the shooters on the floor *and I felt he should have played more with Copeland because they compliment each other especially vs Pacers*, and even rebounding and defense
I love Iman Shumpert but he is far from JR's abilities on offense while Iman still has the ability/potential to improve, and he has the better BB IQ/TEAM CONCEPT, he is far from JR's offensive/facilitating skills


Yes, he reverted back to the step back jumper and wasn't able to penetrate consistently vs playoff contenders *but you must also credit Pacer's strong DEFENSE both 1v1 DEFENSE and the help DEFENSE in Hibbert*, but I blame Woodson for not utilizing Copeland to draw Hibbert out of the paint to counter this
JR was clearly our #2 option during the season but he also was clearly our best all round scorer/play maker as well, deserving to start with the players that have the abilities to score instead of putting him in without the scorers to compliment his abilities to facilitate

With AB, Woodson has a 2nd chance to change his philosophies, and clearly upgraded our PG rotation with Udrih as a playmaker/scorer
In my opinion, for us to be serious championship contenders, JR should probably be somewhere between 3rd-5th option while utilizing more of his abilities to facilitate with enough shooters/scorers on the floor for spacing, while even focusing much energy on DEFENSE and REBOUNDING at times

Hope JR is back to 100%, so he can attack the rim like he did last year, which made him so successful through most of last year.

We definetly need to attack more. Last year we settled too much on 3 point shooitng. Some nights we were on fire but some nights we shot too mnay three's. Shumpert is 100% now so i expect him to attack more
CashMoney
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8/9/2013  12:56 PM
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