azamatbagatov wrote:

Vmart wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:We'll see what Melo is made of once this contract expires. If he is willing to take less to get 2 big pieces/players in here, his desire to win can't be questioned anymore. If he goes the Kobe route and takes $25-$30 per year deal. he is fair game and only has himself to blame for the organization not being able to put the pieces around him. He will also get the pinata treatment from the media.

He is leaving he is opting out. He came here to play with three superstars and they haven't delivered on that deal.

Don't let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. More cap space to make a run at other players, whether it be in 2015, 2016 or beyond. Hopefully we learned our lesson from Amare and we won't let the cap space/money burn a hole in our pocket and make a panic purchase

I agree you can't win a championship built around a 45% volume shooter. Before anyone says Kobe did it Kobe did it yes but he was surrounded by Shaquille who shot 55+ and Gasol, Bynum these guys were shooting well over 50%. I don't totally blame him most of this is on Amare. He was suppose to be that 50%+ guy. As of now the Knicks have no one who can shoot 50%. I don't count Chandler who attempts 8 shots a game. This team lack the two E, efficiency and execution. The most vital aspect to being a championship team.

djsunyc wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I am not big on the Pacers. I think they have a set back.

a team that plays big time defense without any ego players will win 50+ games. they may not get further in the postseason but they are getting granger back. so either his return or what he nets in a trade will help them.

The Pacers also signed C.J. Watson a very good addition

djsunyc wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I am not big on the Pacers. I think they have a set back.

a team that plays big time defense without any ego players will win 50+ games. they may not get further in the postseason but they are getting granger back. so either his return or what he nets in a trade will help them.

Their players have plenty egos but it's a hunch on my part. I want to see how refs call Hibbert going forward though.

tkf wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:

Vmart wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:We'll see what Melo is made of once this contract expires. If he is willing to take less to get 2 big pieces/players in here, his desire to win can't be questioned anymore. If he goes the Kobe route and takes $25-$30 per year deal. he is fair game and only has himself to blame for the organization not being able to put the pieces around him. He will also get the pinata treatment from the media.

He is leaving he is opting out. He came here to play with three superstars and they haven't delivered on that deal.

Don't let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. More cap space to make a run at other players, whether it be in 2015, 2016 or beyond. Hopefully we learned our lesson from Amare and we won't let the cap space/money burn a hole in our pocket and make a panic purchase

exactly.. knicks need to have a rule.. NO max money for players that are not max players.. and honestly, I only see about a handful of guys that are deserving of that... and we don't have any of them.. You have to be smart with your cap, your assets when it comes to building a team... I rather overpay luis scola 10 million dollars than to overpay amare 50 mil.. we just overpay for everyone. from amare to carmelo to chandler.. jeez

I agree, I just hope Dolan has an epiphany puts an end to this cycle we are in. Maybe Woody and Grunwald get the axe and a guy like Phil Jackson can come in a Riley type roll and put Dolan in his rightful place in the corner. He's probably the only guy that Dolan won't pull his usually BS with since he has the hardware to tell Dolan we are doing things my way now

dk7th wrote:epiphany? there will be no epiphany with a lowlife like dolan.

you will NEVER have a quality GM in here, nor a quality coach, so long as dolan the dip**** owns the team. better men than dolan will not stoop to work for him. he's more interested in propping up his fragile ego than he is in winning. that's the reality, guys.

I agree, maybe we can send him a case of Scotch and get him off the wagon.

Knixkik wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I am not big on the Pacers. I think they have a set back.

I think the Pacers will be good but its the Bulls that will not be as good as people expect.

what do you think people will expect? if we just expect them to be as good as last year, then that is dangerous enough.. they took the heat to 7 games...

azamatbagatov wrote:

tkf wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:

Vmart wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:We'll see what Melo is made of once this contract expires. If he is willing to take less to get 2 big pieces/players in here, his desire to win can't be questioned anymore. If he goes the Kobe route and takes $25-$30 per year deal. he is fair game and only has himself to blame for the organization not being able to put the pieces around him. He will also get the pinata treatment from the media.

He is leaving he is opting out. He came here to play with three superstars and they haven't delivered on that deal.

Don't let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. More cap space to make a run at other players, whether it be in 2015, 2016 or beyond. Hopefully we learned our lesson from Amare and we won't let the cap space/money burn a hole in our pocket and make a panic purchase

exactly.. knicks need to have a rule.. NO max money for players that are not max players.. and honestly, I only see about a handful of guys that are deserving of that... and we don't have any of them.. You have to be smart with your cap, your assets when it comes to building a team... I rather overpay luis scola 10 million dollars than to overpay amare 50 mil.. we just overpay for everyone. from amare to carmelo to chandler.. jeez

I agree, I just hope Dolan has an epiphany puts an end to this cycle we are in. Maybe Woody and Grunwald get the axe and a guy like Phil Jackson can come in a Riley type roll and put Dolan in his rightful place in the corner. He's probably the only guy that Dolan won't pull his usually BS with since he has the hardware to tell Dolan we are doing things my way now

yea, phil would be nice, but also a dream.. lol.. I thought larry Brown would be that guy, but isiah was here and that was doomed from the start... smh...

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:epiphany? there will be no epiphany with a lowlife like dolan.

you will NEVER have a quality GM in here, nor a quality coach, so long as dolan the dip**** owns the team. better men than dolan will not stoop to work for him. he's more interested in propping up his fragile ego than he is in winning. that's the reality, guys.

after watching how walsh was treated, you have no choice but to believe this to be the case... just sad.. from walsh to larry Brown to chaney...

what do you mean...Walsh was given the keys to the city and the only time Dolan interfered with him was (and some don't believe this, myself included) when people said he forced the Melo trade.
Dolan even wanted to extend Walsh but, he wouldn't commit to more than a single year and Dolan wanted continuity which he should want. And he was paid very well for his services as well. Dude didn't even respect Dolan's gag order and spoke regularly.

Guys want to Place him on a pedestal when it suits their purposes but, when it came to his comments about Isiah having no say in his decision process, people refuse to believe him. Either you trust in Walsh or you don't. I for one think the job he did here was vastly overrated. His signing of Amare alone is an indictment of his tenure here.