misterearl wrote:Per This

Bonn1997 wrote:
No, Bargs is about 10 to 15 points per 100 possessions worse than Gallo.
They're both tall white Italian men. That's where the similarities end.

Rather than seeing players as individuals, why do so many people ignore the importance of how they relate as a tandem? A team?

Carmelo will respect Bargnani's willingness to play Robin to his Batman and the two men will discover an effective floor personality that shocks the so-called, self-appointed experts.

With less responsibility for the secondary scoring role, JR Smith ramps up his reputation as a defensive-minded pest and becomes the third scoring option.

I Man Shumpert takes another step forward and builds his portfolio as a dependable 15 and 6 player.

You heard it here first.

That's pretty much how I see things too. If we remember all the talk about what a player needs to be able to play with Melo then you look at AB he's exactly what you'd describe offensively. A PF that can play like a 3. He has the skills to actually thrive doing that. Also when we need him to play close to the basket AB can do that too. I think too much emphasis has been placed on his last 2 years with injuries and not enough placed on what this guy can do when healthy and on a good team where defenses can't key on him.

Panos wrote:
If anything, I can see JR Smith being Melo's "Robin". With AB, you'll be lucky to get Batgirl.

“Andrea has great size and can create huge match-up problems for our opponents. He can score both inside and out. He will be a great complement to Carmelo, Tyson and Amar’e.”

- Mike Woodson

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Everyone deserves a second chance.

No one disagrees with that. If we had just signed him for the vet min, I'd have supported the deal. I wouldn't have given up any assets for him though.

You're freakin insane. You're really that down on the guy? We barely gave up anything of value for AB. The players meant nothing to us. The 2nd rd picks meant nothing. The 1st rd pick had a chance for being a role player for this team and so that is really what this trade came down to. I think you especially will be the poster boy for eating crow this year when AB is an integral part of the teams success this year.

It seems like you feel this staff has no ability to rehabilitate a talented player and I don't agree with that. I think this staff has done a good job getting a lot out of players as long as they give the effort. AB is gonna be in the best situation he's had in his career so far. A top 5 team in the East with a superstar. He doesn't have to carry the team. He just needs to play his role. What he does best fits right into what this team needs on offense. If Woody can help AB to improve his rebounding then I think we're talking about a great steal.

loweyecue wrote:Integral part of the team's success?? Do you mean taking 15 shots and making 5, to finish with 15-18 pts?
And based on what am I to believe that Woodson and MElo will allow him to take that many? Heck, if he has 5 games like that, Woody will bench him.

Boy I know i'm a Sunny Outlook guy, but Geez you've gone dark this year. Come on man it's not that bad. The core of this team is back and I fully expect Shump to take another step up this year. Having another player who has shown he can be a primary scorer on the team and isn't afraid to take the shot is gonna be huge. Think of all the times we had guys pass up wide open shots and how that often killed our offense. We actually have PLENTY of shots to go around.

This is an approximation of the shots taken and minutes played by our core guys last year that are still around.

********** MPG ---- FGA
Melo       37       22
JR         34       16
Felton     34       13
Tyson      33       6
Amar'e     24       9
Shump      22       6
Prigs      16       3

Now you can bring in AB and blend him into the mix. I think AB can be in the 12-14 FGA range. I expect that Shumps shots will go up to about 8 a game this year and his minutes will increase a bit. I think JR n Felton will take fewer shots and Melo might as well. Just a couple less per player.

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Is Andrea Bargnani an upgrade from Danilo Gallinari?

You make the call

No, Bargs is about 10 to 15 points per 100 possessions worse than Gallo.
They're both tall white Italian men. That's where the similarities end.

You're too much. They're numbers are very similar. BTW can you please give me a link so I can look at whatever it is you're looking at? I use basketball reference for almost everything stat related.

One thing Gallo couldn't do is post up and his midrange game was almost non existent. AB is much more adept at scoring from everywhere including the post.