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azamatbagatov
Posts: 20336 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2007 Member: #1713 |
7/6/2013 11:41 AM
Are we really defending Woodson's coaching in the playoffs? Well I guess if Isiah's GM'ing can be defended here I shouldn't be surprised by this
"I want to leave a legacy." ~ Isiah Thomas
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
7/6/2013 11:54 AM
copeland could have played every single minute of the playoffs vs the pacers and the outcome would have still been the same...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 12:04 PM LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013 12:06 PM
tkf wrote:copeland could have played every single minute of the playoffs vs the pacers and the outcome would have still been the same... You are delusional we needed more options to break up what they were doing defensively . Their own coach said COPELAND ,“They felt he(COPELAND) ripped their [butt] when he played and they had to change their style,’ not Melo made them change up what they were doing. TKF, Donnie Walsh who you thought was all-world said "he felt Chris was an underrated rebounder. They made Chris feel really good and saw in him stuff that was untapped and not fully utilized.” Go back under your rock , you don't even like the kid or the team.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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CashMoney
Posts: 23145 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/15/2011 Member: #3374 USA |
7/6/2013 12:14 PM
This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world!
Now Copeland turns out to be the difference maker in a series loss? Blue & Orange 4 Life!
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/6/2013 12:15 PM LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013 12:15 PM
I'd rather have invested heavy PF mpg in Copeland than Novak. He would have cost us 2 years, 17 mil dollars and 3 draft picks less. If we felt we had to move Novak and those picks, we could have focused on another area of need.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 12:17 PM
CashMoney wrote:This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world! Another guy to defend would have been the difference maker. They knew they only had to worry about Melo and JR sometimes who else ? That's why they won. Their own coach said Copeland ripped their butt when Woodson allowed him in the games. Who will I listen to and believe you or the Pacer coach ???
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 12:19 PM
Knicks European scout Kevin Wilson found a diamond in the rough in the Belgian League. Wilson was the only NBA scout to monitor Copeland that season. Walsh is a big fan of Wilson and knew it was a steal, and now Walsh stole Copeland from the Knicks.
With the Knicks trying to fight off the Pacers in the East, it’s a blow. After beating the Knicks in six games, the Pacers lost to the Heat in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals. “Having Paul George and Danny Granger, Chris can stretch the floor and create space and make them a more dangerous team,’’ Spencer said. “They think he’s a missing piece to going out and winning a championship.’’ Some of you posters know less basketball than I thought
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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CashMoney
Posts: 23145 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/15/2011 Member: #3374 USA |
7/6/2013 12:28 PM
playa2 wrote:CashMoney wrote:This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world! Thanks....it is all so clear now. We didn't lose the series because we couldn't hit shots, we didn't lose game 6 because of Felton going 0-7, JR Smith going 4-15. We lost the series because Copeland didn't get more than 20 minutes a game during the series. Blue & Orange 4 Life!
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CashMoney
Posts: 23145 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/15/2011 Member: #3374 USA |
7/6/2013 12:32 PM
playa2 wrote:Knicks European scout Kevin Wilson found a diamond in the rough in the Belgian League. Wilson was the only NBA scout to monitor Copeland that season. Walsh is a big fan of Wilson and knew it was a steal, and now Walsh stole Copeland from the Knicks. It is a blow but we COULDN'T RESIGN HIM. We could only offer x amount of $$$ and he got more on the open market. Blue & Orange 4 Life!
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 12:37 PM LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013 12:38 PM
CashMoney wrote:playa2 wrote:CashMoney wrote:This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world! Felton and Jr could have penetrated and made the pass to Copeland to make the Pacers defense scramble around. what series did you watch? Look what happen in gave 5, Reggie Miller didn't understand why the knicks were sitting on Copeland. Their traditional PF's couldn't deal with him .
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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CashMoney
Posts: 23145 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/15/2011 Member: #3374 USA |
7/6/2013 1:10 PM
playa2 wrote:CashMoney wrote:playa2 wrote:CashMoney wrote:This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world! Guess he should have played 30 minutes then. Blue & Orange 4 Life!
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nycisgreat
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7/6/2013 1:22 PM
playa2 wrote:Those who said Woody didn't blow the series but Pacers were just a better team need to read this
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 1:31 PM
nycisgreat wrote:playa2 wrote:Those who said Woody didn't blow the series but Pacers were just a better team need to read this Of course we wouldn't have been anywhere without Melo, but Melo needed help and Woodson denied him help, this is why I bring up role players and their role more. We underutilized what we had to beat the Pacers and that really hurt watching that series.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
7/6/2013 2:11 PM
Will they start Copeland. I mean he is there best offensive player(shooter).
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 2:23 PM LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013 2:25 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Will they start Copeland. I mean he is there best offensive player(shooter). Whether he starts or not isn't the issue, the NBA is a game of mismathches where you try and make other teams adapt to you and be at a disadvantage.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Clean
Posts: 30331 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
7/6/2013 2:24 PM
Ian Begley @IanBegley 1h
Copeland told @alanhahn on @ESPNNY98_7FM that "the plan from the start" was to take less $ to stay in NY. #Knicks never made official offer.
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
7/6/2013 2:25 PM
IMO Copeland was a bit of an unknown last season, which is was why he needed to play more, he really wasn't heavy on any ones scouting report..
Once he gets consistent minutes, he'll no longer get easy looks (see novak,lin, shawne) he won't be nearly as effective as he was this year...you'll see. This was a pure financial move for copeland, and he's fortunate to signed with another top team, but at the end of the day, he's a terrible fit to that offense, they don't run the PnR as much as we do, and they definitely don't shoot 20 3's pg.. I don't blame him for going for the $, he's 29 and his NBA career is probably 4 maybe 5 yr tops..Take the money, get yourself and your family tight and let a title be 3rd on the list. ES
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/6/2013 2:28 PM LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013 2:30 PM
Clean wrote:Ian Begley @IanBegley 1h This looks like the politics behind the Knicks in appeasing Melo in the Lin situation and now Copeland both role players who did well with the ball in their hands.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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