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7/5/2013  9:17 PM
Watching NBATV and theyre saying Dwights flying to LA to meet with Kupchak. Is he giving them one more chance to make a pitch?
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7/5/2013  9:21 PM
TeamBall wrote:Watching NBATV and theyre saying Dwights flying to LA to meet with Kupchak. Is he giving them one more chance to make a pitch?

Wow, I thought Howard going to the Rockets was pretty much a done deal.

Unless the pitch is "Dwight, we know MDA sucks and will fire him if you come back....." I can't see him resigning. Then again, he is a douche so it wouldn't shock me either.

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7/5/2013  9:37 PM
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JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

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7/5/2013  9:39 PM
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
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JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

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7/5/2013  9:41 PM
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JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

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7/5/2013  9:41 PM
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TeamBall wrote:Watching NBATV and theyre saying Dwights flying to LA to meet with Kupchak. Is he giving them one more chance to make a pitch?

Wow, I thought Howard going to the Rockets was pretty much a done deal.

Unless the pitch is "Dwight, we know MDA sucks and will fire him if you come back....." I can't see him resigning. Then again, he is a douche so it wouldn't shock me either.


ESPN saying he went to tell the Lakers hes 50/50. Why he couldnt just call I dont know...
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7/5/2013  9:45 PM
VCoug wrote:
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JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the new CBA. If it weren't for the way the Rockets were able to structure the deal Lin would still be a Knick. Had the Knicks had the ability to do the same deal with Lin that the Rockets were able to do don't you think Lin would still be here?

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7/5/2013  10:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  10:02 PM
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the new CBA. If it weren't for the way the Rockets were able to structure the deal Lin would still be a Knick. Had the Knicks had the ability to do the same deal with Lin that the Rockets were able to do don't you think Lin would still be here?

I'd be more willing to believe that if Lin's cap hit next season wasn't $15M vs $12M for Bargnani.

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7/5/2013  10:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  10:18 PM
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the new CBA. If it weren't for the way the Rockets were able to structure the deal Lin would still be a Knick. Had the Knicks had the ability to do the same deal with Lin that the Rockets were able to do don't you think Lin would still be here?

I'd be more willing to believe that if Lin's cap hit next season wasn't $15M vs $12M for Bargnani.

That's $8 million for last season, $16 million for this season and $24 million for his last year for a total of $48 million vs. AB's $12M for next season.

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7/5/2013  10:26 PM
did'nt howard change his mind multiple times about the opt out? Then on last day decide not to?
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7/5/2013  10:30 PM
Howard flip flop? Impossible...
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7/5/2013  10:32 PM
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the new CBA. If it weren't for the way the Rockets were able to structure the deal Lin would still be a Knick. Had the Knicks had the ability to do the same deal with Lin that the Rockets were able to do don't you think Lin would still be here?

I'd be more willing to believe that if Lin's cap hit next season wasn't $15M vs $12M for Bargnani.

That's $8 million for last season, $16 million for this season and $24 million for his last year for a total of $48 million vs. AB's $12M for next season.

? Lin's contract was $5M/year the first two years and about $15M the third year. That's $25M over 3 years compared to the $23M over two years we're giving to Bargnani. Mind if I ask where you're getting your numbers from?

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7/5/2013  10:41 PM
Statement from Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak
July 05, 2013 7:25 pm PDT
The following statement has been issued by Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak.

"We have been informed of Dwight's decision to not return to the Lakers. Naturally we're disappointed. However, we will now move forward in a different direction with the future of the franchise and, as always, will do our best to build the best team possible, one our great lakers fans will be proud to support. To Dwight, we thank him for his time and consideration, and for his efforts with us last season. We wish him the best of luck on the remainder of his NBA career."

I never doubted Woj for a second. If someone else breaks the news I wait for WOj to confirm it before I believe it.
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7/5/2013  10:50 PM
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
VCoug wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.

How is Houston screwed? They have a superstar in James Harden, are about to add another one in Dwight Howard, have a bunch of really good role players, and can make more moves if they want. Oh, and their cap number is about $20M lower than ours.

Didn't say that the Rockets were screwed. I said the Rockets screwed the Knicks and Bulls through the new CBA.

Ah, I misinterpreted that. Still, what happened with Lin had almost nothing to do with the new CBA. If it did, we wouldn't have just brought in $23M worth of Bargnani for the next two seasons.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the new CBA. If it weren't for the way the Rockets were able to structure the deal Lin would still be a Knick. Had the Knicks had the ability to do the same deal with Lin that the Rockets were able to do don't you think Lin would still be here?

I'd be more willing to believe that if Lin's cap hit next season wasn't $15M vs $12M for Bargnani.

That's $8 million for last season, $16 million for this season and $24 million for his last year for a total of $48 million vs. AB's $12M for next season.

? Lin's contract was $5M/year the first two years and about $15M the third year. That's $25M over 3 years compared to the $23M over two years we're giving to Bargnani. Mind if I ask where you're getting your numbers from?

My bad was thinking about the current Rockets deal. Either way you're forgetting that we traded away $19 million over 3 to take on the $23 million over 2.

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7/5/2013  11:16 PM
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nyvector16 wrote:If the Warriors really want Howard we can totally help them..

They give us Bogut & Biedrins.. we give them Amare'
They then Amnesty Amre and have cap room for Howard! Everyone wins...

A) you can't amnesty players you trade for
B) warriors already used their amnesty on a $2 or 3 mil contract last offseason- biggest waste of the amnesty I've ever seen!

what? is that true? how does that happen

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7/5/2013  11:59 PM
WOWWWW

DHOWARD A ROCKET!?!?!?

AMAZING MOVE,

DHOWARD NEEDS TO BE THE NUMBER 1 KAHUNA,

HOUSTON GIVES THAT TO HIM

ALONG WITH A CERTIFIED 1-A KAHUNA, HARDEN

PLUS JEREMY LIN!!!!

WOWWWWWW CHANDLER PARSLEY!!! CONTENDERS

I LOVE, LOVE LOVE THIS MOVE, I LOVE THIS MOVE FOR THE ROCKETS

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7/6/2013  2:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2013  2:12 AM
CashMoney wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I wouldn't be surprised now if Houston places a call to Boston for Rondo now

I would be surprised. Morey is a statistician who knows what he's doing.

Yeah like paying Lin $8 per season for a year slightly better than Ray Felton who makes half of that. I think it's fair to say that he knows how to screw teams with the new CBA.


You can't obsess over any one transaction. He had the youngest, lowest paid team play .550 ball.
In his worst transactions, Morey slightly overpaid for Asik and Lin. In our worst transactions, we pay guys triple what they're worth and give up 3 or 5 picks to get them too.
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7/6/2013  2:53 AM
Houston trying to bring in Ryan Anderson to spread the floor. It will look like a more talented Orlando squad if they do trade Asik to the pelicans. Anderson/Lewis, Parsons/Turk, and Harden is a upgrade over anyone on the Orl squad. Maybe they'll keep lin now that Jose is off the table. I could see Mo Williams being a great fit for them though to continue the spread the floor theme.
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7/6/2013  2:56 AM
Houston Rockets showing the rest of the league how it's done. James Harden and Dwight Howard - how many picks and assets did they give up to get them? And either one is better than Melo!
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7/6/2013  4:52 AM
knickstorrents wrote:Houston Rockets showing the rest of the league how it's done. James Harden and Dwight Howard - how many picks and assets did they give up to get them? And either one is better than Melo!

I'm not convinced that's a great team. Depends if they can move Asik and Lin for some upgrades, but at the moment it's a very thin team. Even if they land Josh Smith, it's still a very thin team. However it'll be interesting to see what they do.
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