CashMoney wrote:Ok, it's early in the off season but lets take a look at the team roster.

C Chandler
F Bargnani
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Felton

F Stoudemire
G Hardaway, JR.

However, looks like we have a few deals in the works so by the end of the week we may have a roster of

C Chandler
F Bargnani
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Felton

F Stoudemire
G Hardaway, JR.
G Prigioni
F Brand

In addition I'm pretty excited to see what CJ Leslie does in summer camp. I think this kid may be able to become a solid role player in the league.

IMHO, we need to bring back JR Smith but at the end of the day we can only offer what we can offer. He's worth more money on the open market but hopefully he'll choose to stay. If not it will be a loss that we won't be able to recover from.

JR is the key to off-season.

I actually think if we can re-sign JR --- you could see another trade go down.

You are jumping gun on Brand/Prigs but lets assume you are correct. That is a nice 7 to start with, I love the Leslie pick-up (#8)
-- if we can resign JR (#9) -- that is a very nice 9 players

I'd love to be able to grab a pg like (Nate or Bynum) but if we have Felton & Prigs already --- don't know that guys would want to come or that we'd have any $ left. If we go vet min for 3rd guard (I might like old Bobby Brown better than NBA vet like Watson).

SF is another possibility --- Delfino/Barnes would be great but again -- playing time and $$$ issues.

Vmart wrote:I said nothing about D-league for the record. I really don't care if he comes back I already know Knicks aren't winning any championship. With or without JR. I all know is that Knicks need to start preparing for the future and that is Shumpert and Hardaway. Keeping JR around is meaningless because it does nothing for the Knicks going forward.

I just don't understand how anyone would want this 42% shooter, unreliable on and off the court, who has displayed selfishness in his acts on the court and off. If the Knicks give him an offer I can't see giving him a 2 years contract 1 year maybe if he walks good luck to the team he joins.

please let us all know some SG candidates who can come off the bench and get you 15+ppg. we only have the vet min to get that type of guy.

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:I said nothing about D-league for the record. I really don't care if he comes back I already know Knicks aren't winning any championship. With or without JR. I all know is that Knicks need to start preparing for the future and that is Shumpert and Hardaway. Keeping JR around is meaningless because it does nothing for the Knicks going forward.

I just don't understand how anyone would want this 42% shooter, unreliable on and off the court, who has displayed selfishness in his acts on the court and off. If the Knicks give him an offer I can't see giving him a 2 years contract 1 year maybe if he walks good luck to the team he joins.

please let us all know some SG candidates who can come off the bench and get you 15+ppg. we only have the vet min to get that type of guy.

I'm not looking any further than the Knicks Shumpert with a green light gives you everything and more than JR.

I think we'll find them both getting minutes and shots. We can't just release a guy like JR and get nothing, even at $5M he's worth the price IMHO if it's on a 2 year deal, which I think it will be.

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:I said nothing about D-league for the record. I really don't care if he comes back I already know Knicks aren't winning any championship. With or without JR. I all know is that Knicks need to start preparing for the future and that is Shumpert and Hardaway. Keeping JR around is meaningless because it does nothing for the Knicks going forward.

I just don't understand how anyone would want this 42% shooter, unreliable on and off the court, who has displayed selfishness in his acts on the court and off. If the Knicks give him an offer I can't see giving him a 2 years contract 1 year maybe if he walks good luck to the team he joins.

please let us all know some SG candidates who can come off the bench and get you 15+ppg. we only have the vet min to get that type of guy.

You weren't asking me but allow me to answer the question:

Tier 1
Jermaine Taylor
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Gerardo Suero
Jamelle Horne

Tier 2
Scotty Hopson
Austin Freeman
Derrick Byars
Dominique Jones
DJ Kennedy
Travis Leslie

This is top of my head, SGs I have now committed to memory because I've talked about them so much. But there are more out there...The 1st 2 guys on the list in particular are fully capable of replacing JR Smith's offense in a heartbeat. Each guy, if given the PT & the shot attempts, could score 15 ppg in their sleep...Taylor and CDR were both GREAT in the DL last year and both have had success in the NBA before. Both are younger than JR and both would come much, much cheaper. Both guys are known for their scoring and would supply more consistent offense (higher shooting %) than JR Smith imo.

Two other guys I really like that went undrafted this draft are Tyler Brown (Illinois St) & Dwayne Davis (So. Miss.). Thought a read something about Dwayne Davis already signing a deal with the GS Warriors (not sure if it was a SL deal or a guaranteed deal to be on their 15-man roster -- I'll have to read up on that more). Brown may still be available. We should invite that kid to SL or at the very least monitor him closely if he's already committed to playing for another team's SL squad. Total, that's 12 SGs we could get DIRT CHEAP that are capable of getting 15 a night off the bench.

Finestrg wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:I said nothing about D-league for the record. I really don't care if he comes back I already know Knicks aren't winning any championship. With or without JR. I all know is that Knicks need to start preparing for the future and that is Shumpert and Hardaway. Keeping JR around is meaningless because it does nothing for the Knicks going forward.

I just don't understand how anyone would want this 42% shooter, unreliable on and off the court, who has displayed selfishness in his acts on the court and off. If the Knicks give him an offer I can't see giving him a 2 years contract 1 year maybe if he walks good luck to the team he joins.

please let us all know some SG candidates who can come off the bench and get you 15+ppg. we only have the vet min to get that type of guy.

You weren't asking me but allow me to answer the question:

Tier 1
Jermaine Taylor
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Gerardo Suero
Jamelle Horne

Tier 2
Scotty Hopson
Austin Freeman
Derrick Byars
Dominique Jones
DJ Kennedy
Travis Leslie

This is top of my head, SGs I have now committed to memory because I've talked about them so much. But there are more out there...The 1st 2 guys on the list in particular are fully capable of replacing JR Smith's offense in a heartbeat. Each guy, if given the PT & the shot attempts, could score 15 ppg in their sleep...Taylor and CDR were both GREAT in the DL last year and both have had success in the NBA before. Both are younger than JR and both would come much, much cheaper. Both guys are known for their scoring and would supply more consistent offense (higher shooting %) than JR Smith imo.

Two other guys I really like that went undrafted this draft are Tyler Brown (Illinois St) & Dwayne Davis. Thought a read something about Dwayne Davis already signing a deal with the GS Warriors (not sure if it was a SL deal or a guaranteed deal to be on their 15-man roster -- I'll have to read up on that more). Brown may still be available. We should invite that kid to SL or at the very least monitor him closely if he's already committed to playing for another team's SL squad. Total, that's 12 SGs we could get DIRT CHEAP that are capable of getting 15 a night off the bench.

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:I said nothing about D-league for the record. I really don't care if he comes back I already know Knicks aren't winning any championship. With or without JR. I all know is that Knicks need to start preparing for the future and that is Shumpert and Hardaway. Keeping JR around is meaningless because it does nothing for the Knicks going forward.

I just don't understand how anyone would want this 42% shooter, unreliable on and off the court, who has displayed selfishness in his acts on the court and off. If the Knicks give him an offer I can't see giving him a 2 years contract 1 year maybe if he walks good luck to the team he joins.

please let us all know some SG candidates who can come off the bench and get you 15+ppg. we only have the vet min to get that type of guy.

I'm not looking any further than the Knicks Shumpert with a green light gives you everything and more than JR.

I think we'll find them both getting minutes and shots. We can't just release a guy like JR and get nothing, even at $5M he's worth the price IMHO if it's on a 2 year deal, which I think it will be.

I don't care if he is coming or going. All I know is he can't be trusted he will let the team down. Besides I would rather Shumpert and Hradaway be given a chance.

misterearl wrote:Get Excited

yellowboy90 wrote:until I see players agree to the deals I won't get excited.

C Chandler
F Bargnani
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Felton

F Stoudemire
G Smith
G Hardaway, JR.
G Prigioni
F Brand

The more I think about it the more I like the possibility of adding Brand. He's a low post threat, can knock down a jumper, 70% or so from the line, REBOUNDS and although undersized for the position can play center. Getting him to play 20-22 minutes a night just makes sense to me and I also feel that he's an upgrade over Kenyon.

The more I think about it, we have three solid scoring options.