StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Already hearing whispers Kenyon Martin not interested in being signed-and-traded to Toronto, so teams will likely have to try another way

So were we trying to include Kmart in this deal? Why...

i saw that. Aren't q and Barron vet minis the Knicks could send?

Yeah I think it ends up being q-rich but I just dont see why they would start out thinking about sending Kmart. We kinda need him next season.

Also, does that mean the Knicks have a team option on Kmart. I thought he was a free agent.

I think he is a free agent which is why we'd have to get him to agree to a sign and trade. I thought we wanted him back anyway.

Martin is a more valuable players than bargnani IMO. I dont really get why Grunny has such a fascination for this guy

I don't mind the trade, but it seems rushed and not well thought out, almost like a knee reaction to the Boston/Nets trade

Thi is what the Knicks do for years. I mean Dolan doesnt make things easy especially since he is a moron. Dont get me wrong the Nets are kind of screwed in teh future but they made the right move for next year if they are going for it. They got 2 HOF players who have a ton of experience winning. We got a soft injury prone player who can score but not much else

Isola was on sports nite and said the Knicks have been keeping an eye on barge for a couple of years. I think if you can trade old and limited deadweight for a 27 year old seven footer that was a #1 pick you do it. Throwing on a late first round pick 3 years from now is not something I would worry about.

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Already hearing whispers Kenyon Martin not interested in being signed-and-traded to Toronto, so teams will likely have to try another way

So were we trying to include Kmart in this deal? Why...

i saw that. Aren't q and Barron vet minis the Knicks could send?

Yeah I think it ends up being q-rich but I just dont see why they would start out thinking about sending Kmart. We kinda need him next season.

Also, does that mean the Knicks have a team option on Kmart. I thought he was a free agent.

I think he is a free agent which is why we'd have to get him to agree to a sign and trade. I thought we wanted him back anyway.

Martin is a more valuable players than bargnani IMO. I dont really get why Grunny has such a fascination for this guy

I don't mind the trade, but it seems rushed and not well thought out, almost like a knee reaction to the Boston/Nets trade

Thi is what the Knicks do for years. I mean Dolan doesnt make things easy especially since he is a moron. Dont get me wrong the Nets are kind of screwed in teh future but they made the right move for next year if they are going for it. They got 2 HOF players who have a ton of experience winning. We got a soft injury prone player who can score but not much else

Isola was on sports nite and said the Knicks have been keeping an eye on barge for a couple of years. I think if you can trade old and limited deadweight for a 27 year old seven footer that was a #1 pick you do it. Throwing on a late first round pick 3 years from now is not something I would worry about.

Live for today. They'll be more picks to trade in the future!

If Dwight goes to Rockets, Lin might become available!

This is grunwald a third offseason as Knicks gm. It is the first time he has traded a first round pick and he is bringing back a former #1 overall pick that is 27 and seven feet tall. He also has an extra 4 mil for the year the Knicks finally have cap space. What is your issue with this deal? You are usually pretty rational unless you are baiting guys. Is that what it is. Are you just being provacative or do you really think this is an Isaiah move?

That said.. He's 27, he'll be a stretch 4 in our system... and allows Melo to shift back to SF. The 2015 cap space only matters if we are able to attract marquee free agents.. That's gonna be contingent upon our rosters talent base. Most effective way to build talent is through the draft.

Clean wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:This is what happenes when your reactive versus proactive.

Knicks rushing to do a deal since Garnett and Pierce were sent to Brooklyn.

It was a logical move. Nets get KG and PP so we had to bring out the big guns and raise them a bargs. I wonder how the Nets will counter this move.

Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 3m
My colleague @MazzESPN points out that D-Will just started following Kyle Korver on Twitter. Reports: Korver will sacrifice $ to sign in BK.

Does Bargs have a brother or clone we can trade for? We need to counter this move with another knockout blow.

CrushAlot wrote:

JayNYC wrote:Does anyone here overstand that Bargnani, is coming off injury... Doesn't Rebound (Never averaged more than 5 boards a game), Doesn't defend, At 7'0 260 pounds can't take contact or physical play, Offensively he's not this outerworldly shooter.. he hovers around 42% FG 30% from 3pt range. Check this out, I don't mind trading him for Camby (who never got burn) and Novak (who often got burned).. BUT ITS THOSE PICKS.. C'mon, he ain't some major upgrade over Amare'. We keep gettin fleeced in trades. 1ST RD'RS SHOULD NEVER BE DEALT FOR INJURY RIDDLED PLAYERS IMO

That said.. He's 27, he'll be a stretch 4 in our system... and allows Melo to shift back to SF. The 2015 cap space only matters if we are able to attract marquee free agents.. That's gonna be contingent upon our rosters talent base. Most effective way to build talent is through the draft.

I think the Knicks got bargs because he has been injured and underpreformed. His injuries haven't been career ending or altering. He appears to be over his elbow injury as he is committed to at for Italy in September.

YES.. EXACTLY! He's an underachiever.. plus he is injured, Toronto fans kill him for being soft.. and Masaj is tryna shake things up. Timing is everything.. But please believe, if he was some stellar, High impact PF without health issues, there would be no trade! THATS A MAJOR REASON WHY WE AS NYK FANS SHOULDN'T BE OVERLY IMPRESSED! Bottom line is, the trade will happen.. hopefully we follow this move up with some sort of backcourt defender to pair w/ Shumpert; otherwise this deal will be an epic failure. #MatadorDefense

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Already hearing whispers Kenyon Martin not interested in being signed-and-traded to Toronto, so teams will likely have to try another way

So were we trying to include Kmart in this deal? Why...

i saw that. Aren't q and Barron vet minis the Knicks could send?

Yeah I think it ends up being q-rich but I just dont see why they would start out thinking about sending Kmart. We kinda need him next season.

Also, does that mean the Knicks have a team option on Kmart. I thought he was a free agent.

I think he is a free agent which is why we'd have to get him to agree to a sign and trade. I thought we wanted him back anyway.

Martin is a more valuable players than bargnani IMO. I dont really get why Grunny has such a fascination for this guy

I don't mind the trade, but it seems rushed and not well thought out, almost like a knee reaction to the Boston/Nets trade

Thi is what the Knicks do for years. I mean Dolan doesnt make things easy especially since he is a moron. Dont get me wrong the Nets are kind of screwed in teh future but they made the right move for next year if they are going for it. They got 2 HOF players who have a ton of experience winning. We got a soft injury prone player who can score but not much else

Isola was on sports nite and said the Knicks have been keeping an eye on barge for a couple of years. I think if you can trade old and limited deadweight for a 27 year old seven footer that was a #1 pick you do it. Throwing on a late first round pick 3 years from now is not something I would worry about.

Live for today. They'll be more picks to trade in the future!

If Dwight goes to Rockets, Lin might become available!

This is grunwald a third offseason as Knicks gm. It is the first time he has traded a first round pick and he is bringing back a former #1 overall pick that is 27 and seven feet tall. He also has an extra 4 mil for the year the Knicks finally have cap space. What is your issue with this deal? You are usually pretty rational unless you are baiting guys. Is that what it is. Are you just being provacative or do you really think this is an Isaiah move?

Way to sugarcoat the acquisition of a scrub.

Raptor fans are celebrating like they won a title.

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Already hearing whispers Kenyon Martin not interested in being signed-and-traded to Toronto, so teams will likely have to try another way

So were we trying to include Kmart in this deal? Why...

i saw that. Aren't q and Barron vet minis the Knicks could send?

Yeah I think it ends up being q-rich but I just dont see why they would start out thinking about sending Kmart. We kinda need him next season.

Also, does that mean the Knicks have a team option on Kmart. I thought he was a free agent.

I think he is a free agent which is why we'd have to get him to agree to a sign and trade. I thought we wanted him back anyway.

Martin is a more valuable players than bargnani IMO. I dont really get why Grunny has such a fascination for this guy

I don't mind the trade, but it seems rushed and not well thought out, almost like a knee reaction to the Boston/Nets trade

Thi is what the Knicks do for years. I mean Dolan doesnt make things easy especially since he is a moron. Dont get me wrong the Nets are kind of screwed in teh future but they made the right move for next year if they are going for it. They got 2 HOF players who have a ton of experience winning. We got a soft injury prone player who can score but not much else

Isola was on sports nite and said the Knicks have been keeping an eye on barge for a couple of years. I think if you can trade old and limited deadweight for a 27 year old seven footer that was a #1 pick you do it. Throwing on a late first round pick 3 years from now is not something I would worry about.

Live for today. They'll be more picks to trade in the future!

If Dwight goes to Rockets, Lin might become available!

This is grunwald a third offseason as Knicks gm. It is the first time he has traded a first round pick and he is bringing back a former #1 overall pick that is 27 and seven feet tall. He also has an extra 4 mil for the year the Knicks finally have cap space. What is your issue with this deal? You are usually pretty rational unless you are baiting guys. Is that what it is. Are you just being provacative or do you really think this is an Isaiah move?

Way to sugarcoat the acquisition of a scrub.

Raptor fans are celebrating like they won a title.

after trade was first discovered have not seen one raptor fan that was against it. No media people think the Knicks won the trade also.

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Already hearing whispers Kenyon Martin not interested in being signed-and-traded to Toronto, so teams will likely have to try another way

So were we trying to include Kmart in this deal? Why...

i saw that. Aren't q and Barron vet minis the Knicks could send?

Yeah I think it ends up being q-rich but I just dont see why they would start out thinking about sending Kmart. We kinda need him next season.

Also, does that mean the Knicks have a team option on Kmart. I thought he was a free agent.

I think he is a free agent which is why we'd have to get him to agree to a sign and trade. I thought we wanted him back anyway.

Martin is a more valuable players than bargnani IMO. I dont really get why Grunny has such a fascination for this guy

I don't mind the trade, but it seems rushed and not well thought out, almost like a knee reaction to the Boston/Nets trade

Thi is what the Knicks do for years. I mean Dolan doesnt make things easy especially since he is a moron. Dont get me wrong the Nets are kind of screwed in teh future but they made the right move for next year if they are going for it. They got 2 HOF players who have a ton of experience winning. We got a soft injury prone player who can score but not much else

Isola was on sports nite and said the Knicks have been keeping an eye on barge for a couple of years. I think if you can trade old and limited deadweight for a 27 year old seven footer that was a #1 pick you do it. Throwing on a late first round pick 3 years from now is not something I would worry about.

Live for today. They'll be more picks to trade in the future!

If Dwight goes to Rockets, Lin might become available!

This is grunwald a third offseason as Knicks gm. It is the first time he has traded a first round pick and he is bringing back a former #1 overall pick that is 27 and seven feet tall. He also has an extra 4 mil for the year the Knicks finally have cap space. What is your issue with this deal? You are usually pretty rational unless you are baiting guys. Is that what it is. Are you just being provacative or do you really think this is an Isaiah move?

Way to sugarcoat the acquisition of a scrub.

Raptor fans are celebrating like they won a title.

Doesnt that tell you something about their credibility?

Who cares what the Raptors fans think?

Simply put, if a change of scenery and improved health restore Bargnani to the solid player he was not too long ago, we will be the ones celebrating when the actual games happen.