ShellTopAdidas wrote:

loweyecue wrote:What do people have against Rondo? He is young and a bit of a hothead. But he plays with passion gives it everything everytime he is on the floor. He is harsh on teammates when they slack off - because he doesn't. Now on the Knicks that would piss of half the team starting with Melo - but that's exactly the type of player we need. Our coach doesn't have the balls to hold his stars accountable might as well get a player who does.

A FREAKIN MEN!!!

Boom

If we got Lebron for Melo everyone would say he was too old, not enough let in the tank, too selfish, etc

EnySpree wrote:

callmened wrote:http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/6/29/4477600/there-is-no-rajon-rondo-knicks-rumor

posting and toasting? really?

lol...is this better?

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/not_quite_ready_to_yield_city_to_1BsuifpFhQ9tRHZMlZIPkL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Knicks

written by Mark berman of NYPost (i consider him a knicks insider)

tj23 wrote:To get RR it would cost us Shumpster, future 1sts going into next decade probably, and Tyson who would go to a 3rd team that's a contender who would give Boston more young pieces, picks and somebody would have to take back the Wallace contract. And maybe Hardaway. That's what it would cost.

So what are we waiting for??

EnySpree wrote:Brooklyn traded picks that will be low first round picks and Gerald Wallace for PP and Garnett....but the idea of us trading Tyson or shump, novak and Felton for Rondo is stupid???

I wouldn't trade Wallace for Novak, Felton and Shump....

Anyway my initial idea had Portland involved and that makes the most sense for them since they would get Wesley Matthews, Meyers Leanard and CJ McCullum.

Any optimisim left in this group?

yes it is stupid enyspree because with the exception of shumpert who has some potential the rest of the guys suck... now I am not saying suck as in bums, but in relation to the value that rondo has, they suck...no one wants chandler, novak or felton they can get these guys anywhere in the league...

and on top of that we are in the same division. Boston would not trade him to us without fleecing the team, and in the end, it is not worth it..unless it was lebron maybe..

STATMELO wrote:I'd love to have Rondo, huge upgrade defensively from Felton, the best passer in the league. It has no chance of happening and we'd probably need to get a third team involved, but I'd trade Chandler (we can sign a cheap formidable replacement like O'Neal, Dalembert, Oden), Shumpert, Novak, Felton, picks.

I already mentioned the Hornets as being key. In addition to them, the Clippers might be the ticket we need to secure multiple picks, other than our own. With KG/Pierce out of the picture, I could definitely see them having interest in Tyson Chandler. Add in Iman and we'd have a shot at Eric Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullocks and a future 1st rounder. We know that Orlando has a great deal of interest in Bledsoe as well, so we theoretically can get a draft pick for him and Aaron Affalo. Affalo, going to a contender, could be flipped for more picks and/or young players.

Raymond Felton, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullocks, a LAC first round pick, an ORL first round pick , a first round pick for Affalo, Amare Stoudemire and cash for Rondo, Gerald Wallace, Courtney Lee and Kris Humphries/Jeff Green might have some legs. The problem becomes building a team using so many bad contracts, no draft picks and no money to add a decent big man. We "win" the trade but lose long term.

yellowboy90 wrote:I think the more possible options with out giving up two starters are Teague and Vasquez.

Jeff Teague's a restricted free agent so figure that Atlanta would match anything we can offer.

Jmpasq wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

STATMELO wrote:I'd love to have Rondo, huge upgrade defensively from Felton, the best passer in the league. It has no chance of happening and we'd probably need to get a third team involved, but I'd trade Chandler (we can sign a cheap formidable replacement like O'Neal, Dalembert, Oden), Shumpert, Novak, Felton, picks.

I already mentioned the Hornets as being key. In addition to them, the Clippers might be the ticket we need to secure multiple picks, other than our own. With KG/Pierce out of the picture, I could definitely see them having interest in Tyson Chandler. Add in Iman and we'd have a shot at Eric Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullocks and a future 1st rounder. We know that Orlando has a great deal of interest in Bledsoe as well, so we theoretically can get a draft pick for him and Aaron Affalo. Affalo, going to a contender, could be flipped for more picks and/or young players.

Raymond Felton, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullocks, a LAC first round pick, an ORL first round pick , a first round pick for Affalo, Amare Stoudemire and cash for Rondo, Gerald Wallace, Courtney Lee and Kris Humphries/Jeff Green might have some legs. The problem becomes building a team using so many bad contracts, no draft picks and no money to add a decent big man. We "win" the trade but lose long term.

I dont want to be a downer but these trade ideas Im seeing are ludicrous. Would you do that deal if u are the Clippers? The Clippeers are trying to win a title not help the Knicks win 1.

Deandre Jordan,Reggige Bullock,Eric Bledsoe, 2014 1st round pick for Tyson and Shumpert

They might do a Bledsoe/Jordan Tyson/Shump swap

I dont think Shump has the value Knicks fans think he does. If Shump was really this good dont u think teams needing a guard in the mid lottery would of been calling about him

I have no delusions about Shumpert. At best, I think his career trajectory will be a better version of Tony Allen. For a contender needing a no.2 man, that isn't enough. For a team like the Clippers that just needs to refine their supporting cast, this is a player to drool over especially since they have no 2-guard of worth. As I suggested earlier, Shumpert can go up against the best players in the league without any help and disrupt their game. Meanwhile, Chandler is an upgrade over Jordan in that he is far more polished, which makes him less of a liability on the court. He doesn't foul much, he's an elite defender AND he isn't the free throw shooting sive Jordan is which allows him to be on the court in the 4th quarter. So yes, I think the Clippers do this deal, since they are in a win now mode and have little need for either Bullocks or a future no.1

yellowboy90 wrote:I think the more possible options with out giving up two starters are Teague and Vasquez.

Vasquez would actually be a nice addition especially since woody likes to play two point guards. Vasquez is 6'6"....