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Who do you consider to be our clear cut LEADER
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dk7th
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6/15/2013  11:11 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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CrushAlot
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6/15/2013  11:18 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

Being good doesn't make you a leader.
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dk7th
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6/15/2013  11:26 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

Being good doesn't make you a leader.

the players i listed are leaders.

what not good players were leaders?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
holfresh
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6/15/2013  11:32 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

Being good doesn't make you a leader.

the players i listed are leaders.

what not good players were leaders?

U are not understanding...He is not saying bad players are leaders..He is saying because u are good, this alone doesn't make u a leader ...

jrodmc
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6/17/2013  9:30 AM
Bill Russell was also quoted as saying the best player he had on his team was himself. You look at those rosters and it's hard to disagree.


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DurzoBlint
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6/17/2013  11:18 AM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

those are the stats of an Allstar, not a leader. You do realize that team leaders have just as often NOT been the leading scorer on the team right? A leader is someone who, through example or charisma is able to motivate and get people to follow them. Just as often as not its the force of ones personality as it is talent that makes a leader.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
DurzoBlint
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6/17/2013  11:22 AM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i don't know... if you make everyone around you better, make clutch plays, and are able to impose your will on the game-- these are the main attributes of a leader.

russell
magic
bird
jordan
olajuwon
shaq
duncan
nash
dirk
lebron

some are/were vocal and some are/were not.

No that makes u a good basketball player ...

so what are you implying-- that a player who is not good can be a leader?

Being good doesn't make you a leader.

the players i listed are leaders.

what not good players were leaders?

Shaq was NOT a leader. A leader doesn't often come into camp out of shape. The leader on that team WAS Phil and not just because he was the coach. If anyone was the leader on that team it was Kobe who's insane work ethic and demanding nature would not allow him to except less that a total commitment from his teammates. Thats why he was so pissed at Shaq ALWAYS coming into camp fat and bloated.

Shaq is and was TOO MUCH of a kid to be considered a leader by anyone. People don't view clowns as leader. You may like to be around them, but they don't inspire you to follow them.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
fishmike
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6/17/2013  1:26 PM
Id be happy for a guy who can shoot 50% and we are talking about leaders??????
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Who do you consider to be our clear cut LEADER

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