Nalod wrote:jrodmc wrote:fishmike wrote:JRod... didnt he do a decent job in Orlando until TMac quit on him? The year before they signed TMac and Hill they made the playoffs with NOBODY. Doc: mediocre talent->mediocre results. Great talent->great results
Woody coached the Knicks to a high seed. What happened in the playoffs is the same thing to happen to all the coaches who have coached this group.
Whats the barometer for Woody's failure? How can anyone say this group should have done better?
fish, so Doc's a mediocre coach who gets all but swept in the first round unless he's got great talent. Then he's great.
Were the Knicks loaded this past season? Was Doc taking this level of talent beyond the 1st round? I don't see it. Doc's resume right now is based on the Big Three, and the obviously short window they provided. Fun while it lasted, when Rondo's not hurt.
He's not an upgrade over Woodson in the situation we find ourselves in. He'd be a change for the sake of change. If we hadn't shown improvement over the past two seasons, especially with the hodgepodge roster of 50% alzheimer's patients this past season, I'd be all in for trying to get JVG or PhilJax or maybe prying Thibs away, but Doc?
Wait, you guys are saying the same thing.
And yeah, if you got great talent, your gonna win!
JVG is not an elite coach. He was good coach.
Phil Jax is the greatest coach of all time! It would be fun to see him impact any team, let alone the knicks! I wonder how Melo would respond to the greatest coach of all time? The one that harnessed the crazy that was Jordan, or "Mamba" out of Kobe? Would Melo embrace it or reject it?
I don't know nor could anyone really either.
How could people say that Phil is the greatest coach, then say you need great players to make a great coach, and phil has had 1st ballot HOF players during his coaching career.
Your right, I would love to see phil coach a avg team to the finals, you think if Woodson had a young shaq and kobe, or pip and MJ he wouldn't make it to the finals on a regular..
When I watch that Spike documentry on kobe, and I see Kobe in the locker room at half time of a game giving out instuctions and talking to the team while Phil is in the back round listening, it makes me wonder.
When I see MDA on the side line asking Steve nash what he wants to run, you start to wonder how much impact a coach really has with out having great players