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yellowboy90
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5/28/2013  9:34 AM
callmened wrote:I'm not saying hes worth $14mil. Im just saying i dont think he'll be moved this yr or any major changes

"Speaking with two sources familiar with the Knicks' potential free-agency plans, the bottom line is this: Don't expect many changes. They will try to improve and enhance their core," one source said. "They have eight players under contract and they will re-sign J.R. [Smith], making it nine. Then it's the mid-level [of $3.18 million] and minimum salary guys who want a chance to prove themselves."

Again, I know Dolan and the knicks tend to hide things but I actually believe this to be the case. They wont move tyson due to a few bad playoff games. Hes still a SOLID starter


Yes but you can trade Tyson and pick up maybe two solid starters and some role players. Tyson made all Defense yet players shot 45.7% within 5 feet of him. That is well below the league average. That's not the playoffs that's during the year.
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5/28/2013  9:39 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
callmened wrote:I'm not saying hes worth $14mil. Im just saying i dont think he'll be moved this yr or any major changes

"Speaking with two sources familiar with the Knicks' potential free-agency plans, the bottom line is this: Don't expect many changes. They will try to improve and enhance their core," one source said. "They have eight players under contract and they will re-sign J.R. [Smith], making it nine. Then it's the mid-level [of $3.18 million] and minimum salary guys who want a chance to prove themselves."

Again, I know Dolan and the knicks tend to hide things but I actually believe this to be the case. They wont move tyson due to a few bad playoff games. Hes still a SOLID starter


Yes but you can trade Tyson and pick up maybe two solid starters and some role players. Tyson made all Defense yet players shot 45.7% within 5 feet of him. That is well below the league average. That's not the playoffs that's during the year.

Tyson's man to man defense is about average. His help defense is excellent because he has such long arms and he's quick on defense - at least, when he puts the effort in that's the case.
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5/28/2013  9:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/28/2013  10:18 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
callmened wrote:I'm not saying hes worth $14mil. Im just saying i dont think he'll be moved this yr or any major changes

"Speaking with two sources familiar with the Knicks' potential free-agency plans, the bottom line is this: Don't expect many changes. They will try to improve and enhance their core," one source said. "They have eight players under contract and they will re-sign J.R. [Smith], making it nine. Then it's the mid-level [of $3.18 million] and minimum salary guys who want a chance to prove themselves."

Again, I know Dolan and the knicks tend to hide things but I actually believe this to be the case. They wont move tyson due to a few bad playoff games. Hes still a SOLID starter


Yes but you can trade Tyson and pick up maybe two solid starters and some role players. Tyson made all Defense yet players shot 45.7% within 5 feet of him. That is well below the league average. That's not the playoffs that's during the year.


I am telling you, he was in huge decline this year, most of his "STATS" came from tap our rebounds
His defense on the other hand was night and day when compared to last season
He lacked heart and mobility, things that are associated with loss of his physical abilities due to age/injuries
The prior season when he was DPOY he locked down many players 1v1 and still defended for the anchor of the team like Hibbert is did to use in the playoffs
It is difficult to over come that, especially with a bad neck (you simply must rest while not able to work on with weights)
I see more good than bad if we are able to trade him to a team under the cap, especially if we can get multiple 2nd round picks

We need to add skilled players in multiple position that can play 2 way basketball, not more 1 dimmensional players which vet min players usually are
Most of our players are one way players and the one that, the ones that have IQ, also have a lack of speed affecting both OFF and DEF
We don't have this ability without going under the cap for the use of exemptions and multiple picks
Remember Rudy Gay was not traded for much and he sure has more value/potential than Chandler
We need a team that is much faster in all positions and Chandler is one of those players that is slowing us down

Looking at the Hollinger's top 50 efficiency player from college confirms that there WILL BE many steals in the mid 2nd round picks
We have to seriously consider moving Tyson Chandler while we still can get the most out of him before he decreases more in value
With a trade to Portland, I am looking for mutiple 2nd round picks, in addition to 14m trade exemption, the 5m MLE *which can be used to split with 2 solid players*, and the BAE of 2m
So it isn't just the players that the trade nets us, it is the luxury of being well under the tax threshold, and the ability to do more trades without matching dollar for dollar, and do sign and trades as well

With Amare *not going anywhere with his contract*, Melo *not going anywhere as our "messiah", it is up to Tyson's contract to net us the most players possible for salary reasons
Iman is going to need a few players to team up with and he will get much better this summer, he simply needs players that can utilize his DEF mentality
Miami is a top defensive team because they have SPEED to go with Lebron/Wade/Bosh, and versatile, high IQ , high effort/energy players like Norris Cole, Battier, Haslem, Birdman, and even Ray Allen is quite under rated as a defender because of his smarts and fundamentals

It does help that

Lebron
Wade
Norris Cole

are all lock down defenders that are also great help defenders

While

Bosh/Battier/Birdman/Haslem are good help defenders

Scary this is, they will continue to attract solid steal players and still have the mini MLE, and solid vet min players that will sign for the cheap for the contention

Also Indiana is well under the salary cap, while Granger's salary takes a huge portion of the salary that can be traded at a low price or at the very least be amnestied *while a team will bid for a chance since he is in the final year of his salary and take at least 5m off his salary*
They are young and their core will only get better, in addition to the 5m MLE, BAE *I don't think they used it last season so they should have it this summer*, the pick RIGHT before us at 23 and 2nd round pick 54, and have Plumlee *which I expect will come back with big improvements while being their PF/C of their future with his size/length/athleticism*

Bulls will likely be right up there was well, they have Mirza Telovic as a PF stashed in Europe, Rose coming back healthy, the MLE, and pick's 20 and 49

These 3 teams are likely going to be right above us and teams like will likely be fighting for play off spots

Wizards *with Wall healthy and picks 3 and 38
Cleveland, with Irving/Varejo healthy in addition to picks 1, 19, 31, 33, and much cap space
Net's have picks 22 and having a full year together

These teams are going to be under the radar, I see some of these teams climbing up sneakingly with huge improvements
Toronto/Philly/Bobcats/Orlando/Atlanta *depending on if they can sign anyone with the most cap room of any team* and Detroit/ *depending mainly on picks 8 and the development of Drummond*

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5/28/2013  9:46 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
callmened wrote:I'm not saying hes worth $14mil. Im just saying i dont think he'll be moved this yr or any major changes

"Speaking with two sources familiar with the Knicks' potential free-agency plans, the bottom line is this: Don't expect many changes. They will try to improve and enhance their core," one source said. "They have eight players under contract and they will re-sign J.R. [Smith], making it nine. Then it's the mid-level [of $3.18 million] and minimum salary guys who want a chance to prove themselves."

Again, I know Dolan and the knicks tend to hide things but I actually believe this to be the case. They wont move tyson due to a few bad playoff games. Hes still a SOLID starter


Yes but you can trade Tyson and pick up maybe two solid starters and some role players. Tyson made all Defense yet players shot 45.7% within 5 feet of him. That is well below the league average. That's not the playoffs that's during the year.

Tyson's man to man defense is about average. His help defense is excellent because he has such long arms and he's quick on defense - at least, when he puts the effort in that's the case.

He is also quick with his meerkat D too.

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5/28/2013  10:39 AM
I think he should be traded too...hes starting to break down and his defense is OVERATED. but i just dont think he actually WILL be traded
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
Am I missing something? (Tyson Chandler trades)

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