playa2 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I would trade for Beasley before I waste the MLE on Copeland.

Do ya homework, this guy is a piece of work, he couldn't handle NYC

http://nba.si.com/2013/05/07/michael-beasley-sexual-assault-investigation-phoenix-suns/

Suns forward Michael Beasley is the subject of an investigation regarding an alleged sexual assault, according to police in Scottsdale, Ariz.

ABC15.com reports that the alleged assault took place on Jan. 13.

“At this point we can only say the investigation is ongoing,” said David Pubins, Scottsdale police spokesman. “We are interviewing those involved and processing any physical evidence we may have to try and determine if criminal charges are appropriate.”

KTAR also reported the investigation.

This is the second time during Beasley’s tenure in Phoenix that he has found himself in hot water. Word broke in February that Beasley was cited on Jan. 25 for multiple driving violations for driving 71 mph in a 45-mph zone at 1:10 a.m. in a Mercedes that did not have a license plate. Beasley was driving on a suspended license and a loaded gun was found in the vehicle. Suns management did not discipline Beasley after the incident.

JR Smith killed his best friend and went to jail for 30 days.

Knicks gotta take risks on guys that other teams may be willing to get rid of for cheap. Michael Beasely is talented and makes 5-6 million for the next 2 years.

Plus we have coach Woodson who seems to be able to handle personalities.

We also need to manage Melo's minutes next year. We dont need to run him into the ground prematurely. Beasley can score and is proven.

AnubisADL wrote:
JR Smith killed his best friend and went to jail for 30 days.

Knicks gotta take risks on guys that other teams may be willing to get rid of for cheap. Michael Beasely is talented and makes 5-6 million for the next 2 years.

You must've loved the Isiah years.

toad wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
JR Smith killed his best friend and went to jail for 30 days.

Knicks gotta take risks on guys that other teams may be willing to get rid of for cheap. Michael Beasely is talented and makes 5-6 million for the next 2 years.

You must've loved the Isiah years.

He's not wrong. We went all in on this roster and it's obviously not good enough. We need to get more talent on this team and that means having to take chances on guys we normally wouldn't.

Bonn1997 wrote:This seems to contradict the thread title:

Grunwald added, discussing the team's financial wiggle room: "It's probably not likely to get under the tax threshold, but sign-and-trades are available. You just can't acquire a player through free agency, but half of the equation works.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/44817/white-unlikely-to-return-may-play-overseas

pretty much what I thought.

GM Glen Grunwald used two words Tuesday to describe what the front office needs to do this summer: "Be creative."

"I think we've got some ideas on what we can do," he said. "We have to be aggressive and creative in terms of our approach to this offseason -- not only just in terms of players, but also in getting our existing players better."

VCoug wrote:

toad wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
JR Smith killed his best friend and went to jail for 30 days.

Knicks gotta take risks on guys that other teams may be willing to get rid of for cheap. Michael Beasely is talented and makes 5-6 million for the next 2 years.

You must've loved the Isiah years.

He's not wrong. We went all in on this roster and it's obviously not good enough. We need to get more talent on this team and that means having to take chances on guys we normally wouldn't.

Or, you learn from history, take a step back, and come up with a better long-term plan.

toad wrote:

VCoug wrote:

toad wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
JR Smith killed his best friend and went to jail for 30 days.

Knicks gotta take risks on guys that other teams may be willing to get rid of for cheap. Michael Beasely is talented and makes 5-6 million for the next 2 years.

You must've loved the Isiah years.

He's not wrong. We went all in on this roster and it's obviously not good enough. We need to get more talent on this team and that means having to take chances on guys we normally wouldn't.

Or, you learn from history, take a step back, and come up with a better long-term plan.

Lol, learn from history? I was trying to be realistic!

why no trades??? we have no one to trade?? i don't get it?

do something, because this team as is now is not getting better, there is no room for improvement it's a dead end, and if it wasn't good enough this year against indy it won't be good enough next year if you manage to see the heat,

you're telling me you can't trade tyson or shump or melo or novak or some creative package??

VCoug wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:i am beyond my brain,

why no trades??? we have no one to trade?? i don't get it?

do something, because this team as is now is not getting better, there is no room for improvement it's a dead end, and if it wasn't good enough this year against indy it won't be good enough next year if you manage to see the heat,

you're telling me you can't trade tyson or shump or melo or novak or some creative package??

No, what he's saying is that we can't receive players in a sign-and-trade but we can send players out. Basically, we (probably) can't get Chris Paul in a sign-and-trade from LAC but we can send Copeland to another team in a sign-and-trade and receive players back. We're still allowed to make regular trades.

I believe Tyson is probably our best, most realistic trade chip. We can afford a downgrade, or a perceived downgrade, at center in order to upgrade another position. Quentin Richardson and James White I believe both have non-guaranteed contracts for next season that should total a little more than $2M combined (my best guess is it's $2.4M combined since I can't find the actual numbers anywhere). Any team looking for a little cap relieve could trade us a decent piece at around $3M/year for them. A quick look at teams' salaries for next season and LAL, Brooklyn, and Orlando are all probably going to pay luxury tax next season and Golden State, Boston, Denver, and Chicago are all right at the threshold; they might all be looking to save a little money and could be willing trade partners. Also, I believe if Houston wants to sign Dwight Howard, or another max free agent, this Summer they'll have to shave a few million off of there cap figure. That could mean Asik could be had for nothing and I would jump at the chance to get him. JR at $5M/year and Shumpert are also nice assets but only in the right trade.

What do you think Chandler value is to the Clips, Portland, and OKC. Also, can the knicks add the 800k+ in trade exception. See what I could see is a team like Orlando dumping Nelson or Affalo for a little to nothing.

yellowboy90 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:i am beyond my brain,

why no trades??? we have no one to trade?? i don't get it?

do something, because this team as is now is not getting better, there is no room for improvement it's a dead end, and if it wasn't good enough this year against indy it won't be good enough next year if you manage to see the heat,

you're telling me you can't trade tyson or shump or melo or novak or some creative package??

No, what he's saying is that we can't receive players in a sign-and-trade but we can send players out. Basically, we (probably) can't get Chris Paul in a sign-and-trade from LAC but we can send Copeland to another team in a sign-and-trade and receive players back. We're still allowed to make regular trades.

I believe Tyson is probably our best, most realistic trade chip. We can afford a downgrade, or a perceived downgrade, at center in order to upgrade another position. Quentin Richardson and James White I believe both have non-guaranteed contracts for next season that should total a little more than $2M combined (my best guess is it's $2.4M combined since I can't find the actual numbers anywhere). Any team looking for a little cap relieve could trade us a decent piece at around $3M/year for them. A quick look at teams' salaries for next season and LAL, Brooklyn, and Orlando are all probably going to pay luxury tax next season and Golden State, Boston, Denver, and Chicago are all right at the threshold; they might all be looking to save a little money and could be willing trade partners. Also, I believe if Houston wants to sign Dwight Howard, or another max free agent, this Summer they'll have to shave a few million off of there cap figure. That could mean Asik could be had for nothing and I would jump at the chance to get him. JR at $5M/year and Shumpert are also nice assets but only in the right trade.

What do you think Chandler value is to the Clips, Portland, and OKC. Also, can the knicks add the 800k+ in trade exception. See what I could see is a team like Orlando dumping Nelson or Affalo for a little to nothing.

The most important thing about any Tyson trade is that we would absolutely need some sort of replacement for him and we don't have one on the roster so that could somewhat limit our ability to trade him.

The Clippers depends on Chris Paul, LA will do anything for him to resign and he's practically making personnel decisions anyway. There have been several reports that Chris Paul doesn't like DeAndre Jordan (or Blake Griffin but he's not going anywhere unless some team blows LA away with an offer). Chris Paul has also played with Tyson in New Orleans so, as long as they got along in that time, that could benefit us in a trade. The Clippers also can't/don't play both Blake and Jordan at the end of games because of their poor FT shooting (66% for Blake and 38% for Jordan). Tyson's obviously not a great FT shooter but he's not the horror show Jordan is. With all that in mind I'd be targeting Jordan and Bledsoe from the Cliippers and nothing less. I'd include our 1st rounder this year to sweeten the pot but that's it, take it or leave it.

I'm really unfamiliar with Portland's roster but I don't really see anything there after a quick glance. The only big man I recognize is Aldridge and there's not a chance in hell they're trading him. And it looks like there's only a handful of NBA caliber players anyway so I don't know who's they be willing to give up.

OKC was a team I was thinking of a few months ago but watching them play us and then in the playoffs I'm not so sure. The obvious player they'd give up is Perkins but everything I've seen of him makes me believe he's completely washed up and I wouldn't take a chance on him unless we signed him to a minimum contract. The only way I'd consider taking him under his current deal is if OKC is giving Jeremy Lamb and the Toronto pick they got in the Harden trade. I wouldn't do that if I were them so OKC is probably out.

Another team to consider is Denver where they buried Javale McGee after giving him an $11M+/year contract; he didn't even play 20 mpg last season so I'm sure Denver would love to be able to dump him on some other team. Of course, that's because Javale McGee has the lowest basketball IQ of any player I've ever seen and he's a complete and total knucklehead on top. But he's also talented and, for as much **** as I've given him, Woodson does seem to have a pretty good rapport with his players, definitely more than any coach we've had since JVG, and I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do for McGee. Of course, if we're taking McGee off their hands we need to be getting something else. I'd ask about Andre Miller but I don't think they'd give him up. The only other thing I could really see is Evan Fournier (I honestly know next to nothing about him. He's just a name that I recognize. Does anyone know if he's any good? Should we be targeting him?) and Anthony Randolph (He's only 23! He can still turn it around!). Yeah, I'm still on the Randolph bandwagon.

The one thing is that all these trades involve us getting a big man back to replace Tyson. If we could get a big man some other way it would open up other possibilities. The most interesting scenario for me is Omer Asik and Houston. Houston has a lot of cap space and obviously wants to improve on a pretty good season but, if they want to add a max free agent, like Dwight, I've read that they need to shave off another couple million dollars from their cap. If they were to target Dwight the most obvious player to go would be Asik. The problem is that I don't know how his poison pill contract works in trades. If his cap number for trades is $5M I think we could get him; if it's $8M I don't think we have a chance.

Sometime tomorrow/later today I'm going to try and put together some more posts about what big men may be available to us, other trades involving Tyson, and who we might be able to get for our $2.5M non-guaranteed contracts, Q-Rich and James White.