yellowboy90 wrote:I would look at Reggie Bullock if he slips in the second. A nice catch and shoot player that can come off screens. I still think the Knicks need a move player in their offense to open up things.

JJ Redick, anyone?

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NardDogNation wrote:

Finestrg wrote:NBA combine coming on now at 10:00, ESPN-U for anyone interested. Good chance to get a glimpse at some of the players being discussed for the draft.

Any standouts you've noticed?

Had to go pick my son up at school--stopped watching awhile ago. I caught most of the early SF drills -- Tony Snell looked pretty fluid....Difficult to really gauge this event on TV -- the drill portion is a real small sample to begin with, then they keep cutting away to the panel of commentators and panning the camera all over the place to all different players. I've seen Snell during the year though and he looks plenty athletic and is a real nice outside shooter. Was getting hyped by the panel and rightfully so. They mentioned Kawhi Leonard as a comparison -- there's a physical resemblance for sure (I was thinking Darius Miles myself) but I don't know him well enough to know for sure if he's the same type of hustler/defender Leonard is... 6'7" 225 lefty DeShaun Thomas looked good in the shooting portion of the drills... Arizona's Solomon Hill didn't shoot it that great from what little I saw but I still like that kid. There were times during the year when he looked like Michael Finley to me--that same combination of strength/put it on the floor/outside shooting in a similar bulldog-type 6'7" 220 body...And I continue to be intrigued by Glen Rice Jr. Going to be interesting to see where that kid winds up going. Chad Ford has him going in the lottery (#15 to the Bucks I believe---and Ford was raving about him today, putting a ton of stock in his DL play, esp. late in the season/DL playoffs); DX has him going 24 to us and nbadraft.net has him going middle of the 2nd round. Speculation varies greatly on this kid right now. I don't think there's any question that he's got talent, it just a matter of how much his checkered past comes into play for some.

I'm not terribly familiar with college players but also have been hearing good things about two NBA jr's: Glen Rice and Tim Hardaway. But most of the intrigue seems to be coming from Glen Rice who everyone regards as lottery team. Do you think his character is really suspect or is he just not the sharpest crayon in the box?

Nate Wolters looks real niiiiice out there. Biggest sleeper in the draft.
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Nerlens Noel only weighs according to this 206? Thats taking a C who has a torn ACL and weighs 206 pounds first????? I would not.

Steven Adams true legit C size 7-0 254 with almost a 7-5 wingspan(he's going to jump into the top 10 with how he shot the ball and his true size.

Rudy Gobert had a 7-8 wingspan and hes almost 7-2

Shane Larkin was small 5- 11 170

Mason Plumlee was taller than most of the C's at a tad over 7 feet

Trevor Mbakwe was only 6-7 ish but had the biggest hands almost a foot long and a wingspan of 7-4

Shabazz Muhammed was one of the most solid 2G at 221 pds--most of them were in the 200 range or less.

callmened wrote:wow.lol. Noel is only 205. he better eat some wheaties

That is really small. He'll gain weight but that is really small and with the ACL someone is going to have to make a tough decision. The depth of this draft is better than last year. While some teams will struggle with the higher picks to get high value--the rest of the draft has solid rotational players who will make the NBA. I think this is a unique draft where the value of it is in the bottom of the round 1 into the 2nd. Im swinging my pick at Ricky Ledo at 24--if he is even there. He just looks like a possible NBA all star down the road--cant pass that up.

i wouldnt mid ricky ledo at ALL! - especially if JR leaves

my wish list was cory jefferson (but hes staying in school to be a lottery pick next yr)

- shane larkin
- pierre jackson (youve sold me on him)
- mason plumlee
- kenny kaji
- myck kabuongo
- allen crabbe
- reggie bullock
- G. Dieng

BRIGGS wrote:Name Height w/o Shoes Height with Shoes Wt. Wingspan Reach Body Fat Hand Length Hand Width
Steven Adams 6'10.75'' 7' 0'' 254.5 7' 4.5'' 9' 1.5'' 6.7 9.5 11
Vander Blue 6'3.5'' 6' 5.25'' 197.4 6' 6'' 8' 4.5'' 4.6 8.5 9.5
Lorenzo Brown 6' 4'' 6' 5.25'' 189.2 6' 7'' 8' 4'' 4 8.25 8.5
Reggie Bullock 6' 5.75'' 6' 7'' 199.8 6' 8.75'' 8' 6'' 7 8.5 9
Trey Burke 5' 11.75'' 6' 1.25'' 187 6' 5.5'' 8' 1.5'' 6.9 8.25 8.75
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 6' 4.5'' 6' 5.5'' 203.6 6' 8'' 8' 4.5'' 6.5 8.5 9
Isaiah Canaan 5' 11'' 6' 0'' 188.4 6' 4.5'' 7' 10.5'' 5.9 8.25 9.5
Jackie Carmichael 6' 7.5'' 6' 9'' 241.2 7' 1.5'' 8' 11'' 5.8 9 10.25
Michael Carter-Williams 6' 4.75'' 6' 5.75'' 184.4 6' 7.25'' 8' 5'' 4.4 7.5 8.5
Will Clyburn 6' 5.75'' 6' 7'' 210.4 7' 0.25'' 8' 9'' 6.9 9.25 10.25
Robert Covington 6' 6.25'' 6' 7.5'' 208.6 7' 1.75'' 8' 10'' 4.7 9 8.5
Allen Crabbe 6' 5.25'' 6' 6.25'' 197.4 6' 11.25'' 8' 7.5'' 4.7 8.25 8.5
Seth Curry 6' 1'' 6' 3'' 179.2 6' 4'' 8' 1.5'' 9.6 8 8.25
Brandon Davies 6' 8.5'' 6' 10.25'' 241.8 7' 1.5'' 9' 0.5'' 8.6 9 11
DeWayne Dedmon 6' 10'' 6' 11.5'' 238.8 7' 4'' 9' 1'' 8.4 9 11
Gorgui Dieng 6' 9.75'' 6' 10.75'' 229.6 7' 3.5'' 9' 3.5'' 5.4 9 10
James Ennis 6' 5.75'' 6' 7'' 200.8 6' 11.5'' 8' 8.5'' 4.5 8.5 8.75
Carrick Felix 6' 4.75'' 6' 6.25'' 202.6 6' 9.25'' 8' 7.5'' 3.3 8.5 9.5
Jamaal Franklin 6' 4'' 6' 5.25'' 190.8 6' 11.25'' 8' 7.5'' 8.3 8.5 8.25
Rudy Gobert 7' 0.5'' 7' 2'' 237.6 7' 8.5'' 9' 7'' 4.4 9.75 10
Archie Goodwin 6' 3.75'' 6' 5.25'' 189 6' 9.5'' 8' 6'' 4.6 8.5 9
Erick Green 6' 1.5'' 6' 3'' 178.2 6' 5.75'' 8' 2'' 4.4 8.5 9
Tim Hardaway Jr. 6' 4.5'' 6' 6.25'' 199.4 6' 7'' 8' 5'' 6.1 8 9.25
Solomon Hill 6' 5.5'' 6' 7'' 226 6' 9'' 8' 7'' 7.6 9 10.5
Richard Howell 6' 6.25'' 6' 7.5'' 249.6 6' 10.25'' 8' 9.5'' 8.8 8.75 9.5
Colton Iverson 6' 10.5'' 7' 0'' 262.8 7' 2'' 9' 2'' 9.6 9.25 9.5
Pierre Jackson 5' 9.5'' 5' 10.5'' 176 5' 10'' 7' 6'' 4.5 7.5 8.25
Grant Jerrett 6' 8.75'' 6' 10.25'' 232 7' 2'' 9' 1'' 10.1 8.5 9.25
Myck Kabongo 6' 1.25'' 6' 2.75'' 180.4 6' 6.25'' 8' 2'' 6 8.25 9
Kenny Kadji 6' 8.75'' 6' 10'' 241.6 7' 3'' 8' 10.5'' 7.5 9 10.25
Ryan Kelly 6' 9.75'' 6' 11.75'' 228 6' 11.5'' 9' 2'' 14.8 9 10
Shane Larkin 5' 10.25'' 5' 11.5'' 170.8 5' 10.75'' 7' 5.5'' 3.8 7.5 8.75
Ricardo Ledo 6' 4.75'' 6' 6'' 197.2 6' 7.25'' 8' 6.5'' 10.3 8.5 9.25
Alex Len N/A N/A N/A 7' 3.5'' N/A 6.4 9 10.75
C.J. Leslie 6' 7.5'' 6' 8.75'' 209.2 7' 2.25'' 8' 8.5'' 8 8.75 9
Trevor Mbakwe 6' 6.75'' 6' 8'' 235.8 7' 4'' 8' 10.5'' 5.9 9.5 11.5
Ray McCallum 6' 0.25'' 6' 1.75'' 191.4 6' 3.25'' 8' 0.5'' 7.3 8 8.75
C.J. McCollum, 6' 2.25'' 6' 3.25'' 197 6' 6.25'' 8' 0.5'' 8.6 8 9.5
Ben McLemore 6' 3.5'' 6' 4.75'' 189.2 6' 7.75'' 8' 4.5'' 5 8.75 9.5
Tony Mitchell 6' 7.5'' 6' 8.75'' 236.4 7' 2.5'' 8' 10.5'' 5.6 9 10
Shabazz Muhammad 6' 4.75'' 6' 6.25'' 221.8 6' 11'' 8' 8.5'' 9 9 10
Erik Murphy 6' 8.75'' 6' 9.5'' 239.8 6' 10.5'' 9' 0'' 8 8.75 9.75
Mike Muscala 6' 10.25'' 6' 11.5'' 230.2 7' 1'' 9' 0'' 6.8 8.5 9
Nerlens Noel 6' 10'' 6' 11.75'' 206.4 7' 3.75'' 9' 2'' 4.2 9.5 10
Victor Oladipo 6' 3.25'' 6' 4.25'' 213.2 6' 9.25'' 8' 4.5'' 6.6 8.75 9.25
Kelly Olynyk 6' 10.75'' 7' 0'' 234 6' 9.75'' 9' 0'' 6.7 8.5 10
Brandon Paul 6' 2.75'' 6' 4'' 201 6' 10.25'' 8' 2'' 5.3 8.5 9.5
Norvel Pelle 6' 9.5'' 6' 10.5'' 207.2 7' 2.5'' 9' 1'' 5.2 8.75 9.5
Mason Plumlee 6' 11.25'' 7' 0.5'' 238.2 6' 11'' 9' 0'' 6.15 9.75 9.5
Otto Porter Jr. 6' 7.5'' 6' 8.5'' 197.6 7' 1.5'' 8' 9.5'' 6.7 8.75 9.25
Phil Pressey 5' 9.5'' 5' 11.5'' 177 6' 2.25'' 7' 8'' 4.7 7.75 9.75
Glen Rice Jr. 6' 4.5'' 6' 5.75'' 210.8 6' 9.25'' 8' 5.5'' 8.5 8.5 9
Andre Roberson 6' 6.25'' 6' 7'' 205.8 6' 11'' 8' 8.5'' 7.1 8.75 9.5
Dennis Schroeder 6' 1'' 6' 2'' 164.8 6' 7.75'' 8' 2'' 4.1 8.75 10.5
Peyton Siva 5' 11.5'' 6' 1'' 180.6 6' 3'' 7' 9'' 6.1 8 9.75
Tony Snell 6' 6'' 6' 7.25'' 198.2 6' 11.5'' 8' 9.5'' 4.9 9 9.5
James Southerland 6' 7'' 6' 8'' 220.6 7' 1'' 8' 10'' 8.05 8 9.5
Adonis Thomas 6' 4.75'' 6' 5.75'' 231.8 7' 1'' 8' 3'' 7.5 9.25 9.5
Deshaun Thomas 6' 5'' 6' 7'' 219.8 6' 10'' 8' 8'' 9.1 8 8.75
Jeff Withey 6' 10.75'' 7' 0.5'' 221.8 7' 2'' 9' 2.5'' 8.7 9 9.75
Nate Wolters 6' 3.5'' 6' 4.75'' 196.4 6' 3.75'' 8' 2'' 5.5 8.25 8.75
B.J. Young 6' 2.25'' 6' 3.5'' 178.8 6' 8.25'' 8' 3'' 4.7 8.5 9.5
Cody Zeller 6' 10.75'' 7' 0.25'' 230 6' 10.75'' 8' 10'' 4.75 8.5 10.5

Speaking of, the word around the grapevine is that Seth Curry is moving up the draft. I hear his game is similar to his big brother's and we could definitely use some of that if he's around at 24. I remember back in the '09 draft, people similarly underestimated Steph Curry and had him falling in the 2nd round. Slowly but surely, his stock rose but even before draft night most had him as a mid-1st round selection. Anyway, I suppose what I'm asking you is if there are any parallels between the two?

callmened wrote:im not too sold on seth curry ...hes tiny and not a good ball handler...an ok shooter...but his name will carry him far

Makes sense. It seemed like the legacies (Kobe Bryant, Al Horford, Klay Thompson, Stephen Curry, etc.) all make as big/if not bigger impact than their Dad's so I was hoping lightening stroke again (for us).