holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team.

"… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’

Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.

One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...

This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....

TeamBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team.

"… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’

Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.

One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...

This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....

Could have been a shot at JR. I dont know how many shots he took, but he holds the ball so long and rarely gives it up. His decisions need to be quicker.

I think this could be the strongest case for us trying to pursue a floor general to help direct the offense. I like Melo's game but he holds the ball too damn much on occasion. We need a guy that can create shots for others to alleviate our iso-heavy offense and to get in Melo's face if need be when he deviates from this gameplan. Rajon Rondo anyone?

NardDogNation wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team.

"… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’

Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.

One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...

This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....

Could have been a shot at JR. I dont know how many shots he took, but he holds the ball so long and rarely gives it up. His decisions need to be quicker.

I think this could be the strongest case for us trying to pursue a floor general to help direct the offense. I like Melo's game but he holds the ball too damn much on occasion. We need a guy that can create shots for others to alleviate our iso-heavy offense and to get in Melo's face if need be when he deviates from this gameplan. Rajon Rondo anyone?

nyk4ever wrote:should i read this thread, it's by playa, is the only question im asking myself

Nah, it's a good thread. Don't be a hater. I guess in your case, to troll or not to troll?

NardDogNation wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team.

"… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’

Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.

One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...

This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....

Could have been a shot at JR. I dont know how many shots he took, but he holds the ball so long and rarely gives it up. His decisions need to be quicker.

I think this could be the strongest case for us trying to pursue a floor general to help direct the offense. I like Melo's game but he holds the ball too damn much on occasion. We need a guy that can create shots for others to alleviate our iso-heavy offense and to get in Melo's face if need be when he deviates from this gameplan. Rajon Rondo anyone?

I dont know man. This team has shown they're capable of playing with the big dogs when the commit to it. I just cant understand why they get away from what works.

When we win, it's because we move the ball effectively. A floor general would guarantee that happens more consistently and efficiently.

TeamBall wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team.

"… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’

Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.

One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...

This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....

Could have been a shot at JR. I dont know how many shots he took, but he holds the ball so long and rarely gives it up. His decisions need to be quicker.

I think this could be the strongest case for us trying to pursue a floor general to help direct the offense. I like Melo's game but he holds the ball too damn much on occasion. We need a guy that can create shots for others to alleviate our iso-heavy offense and to get in Melo's face if need be when he deviates from this gameplan. Rajon Rondo anyone?

I dont know man. This team has shown they're capable of playing with the big dogs when the commit to it. I just cant understand why they get away from what works.

When we win, it's because we move the ball effectively. A floor general would guarantee that happens more consistently and efficiently.

You're right. Consistency is the key with this team. However, we dont have many options at obtaining guys like Rondo. The oddest thing about Tysons comments, as Uptown said, is that Melo didnt even shoot that much. The shot distribution was actually pretty good. It seems like more of a problem with Tyson right now than anything else.

You're definitely right about us not necessarily having many assets to obtain an elite floor distributor. What we need to do is get creative and figure out how to leverage other teams' situations to improve our bottom line. For instance, the Raptors leveraged the situation of the Grizzlies and Pistons to obtain Rudy Gay, a far superior player to anything they gave up. We should be looking at malcontents with superior talent in the league (e.g. Brandon Jennings, Pau Gasol, Danny Granger, etc.) and figure out ways of redirecting them to other teams in order to get what we want (e.g. Rajon Rondo).

As much as our players are underperforming, I think the bulk of their failures rests on Woodson's shoulders. The guy has historically been an awful playoff coach and is cementing that reputation here in New York. His pre-game and in-game adjustments are atrocious, two skills that are imperative for playoff success.

MS wrote:While I think Tyson picked the wrong game to do it, it needed to be said. Those guys have been selfish and medicore most of the postseason. They kill the entire offense just about every game. All it takes is a couple of passes from Melo and he opens up the floor for everyone including himself. JR is useless and will never learn. He literally takes a bad shot every time he checks into the game.

Melo has no excuse. Durant has been leading his team in every category during the postseason. No reason Melo shouldn't be 8rbs 5ass every single night.

Tyson, is just horrible. If you're a center you need to go get double figure rebounds. If you haven't developed on move in a 10 year career that's on you. Go get the ball, body someone up and stop with all the stupid fouls.

Chandler is a career LOSER. Lets keep it real. Dude got abused by Hibbert yesterday and wants to cry about the offense. .

Chandler should have kept his comments to himself with his lack luster performance. Hibbert was grinning from ear to ear the entire game.

AnubisADL wrote:Tyson Chandler just committed suicide. We already know Dolan doesn't like the drama in the media.

Chandler is a career LOSER. Lets keep it real. Dude got abused by Hibbert yesterday and wants to cry about the offense. .

Chandler should have kept his comments to himself with his lack luster performance. Hibbert was grinning from ear to ear the entire game.

TeamBall wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:You're definitely right about us not necessarily having many assets to obtain an elite floor distributor. What we need to do is get creative and figure out how to leverage other teams' situations to improve our bottom line. For instance, the Raptors leveraged the situation of the Grizzlies and Pistons to obtain Rudy Gay, a far superior player to anything they gave up. We should be looking at malcontents with superior talent in the league (e.g. Brandon Jennings, Pau Gasol, Danny Granger, etc.) and figure out ways of redirecting them to other teams in order to get what we want (e.g. Rajon Rondo).

As much as our players are underperforming, I think the bulk of their failures rests on Woodson's shoulders. The guy has historically been an awful playoff coach and is cementing that reputation here in New York. His pre-game and in-game adjustments are atrocious, two skills that are imperative for playoff success.

Grunwald has to be on his game with that one. He'd also have to basically give up on Ray as the PG. Also, I see what you're saying about Woodson. I dont want to put too much blame on him though especially since he cant make Chandler play like he has some balls. I am concerned that the team can just keep randomly coming out with a lack of effort though. I dont know who shoulders the blame with that one.

I thought the already had given up on Felton as pg? He's been playing sg for a while now.