Hersports85 wrote:

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Felton really needs to have the ball in his hands coming up the floor every time when they're getting into their sets. He's been our only reliable option getting into the lane. And he's been finishing all playoffs. He needs to be the guy to get Melo out of this funk by setting up easy shots for him. Melo has a confidence issue right now.

Do you not realize Melo and company are having a hard time because we aren't getting good PG play? Felton is looking to get his shot off INSTEAD of setting guys up.

Felton gets to pick his spots since he has the ball in his hands on most plays. Kidd and Prigioni are too old for the Pacer guards.

really??

Yeah, I don't get that post either. Felton has been great. No fault whatsoever on him. He is really being everything that everyone said he wasn't.

We are getting the shots. Melo, Jr and Kidd are just missing them. It's that simple.

It's the quality of the shots for Melo.

AnubisADL wrote:

Hersports85 wrote:

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Felton really needs to have the ball in his hands coming up the floor every time when they're getting into their sets. He's been our only reliable option getting into the lane. And he's been finishing all playoffs. He needs to be the guy to get Melo out of this funk by setting up easy shots for him. Melo has a confidence issue right now.

Do you not realize Melo and company are having a hard time because we aren't getting good PG play? Felton is looking to get his shot off INSTEAD of setting guys up.

Felton gets to pick his spots since he has the ball in his hands on most plays. Kidd and Prigioni are too old for the Pacer guards.

really??

Yeah, I don't get that post either. Felton has been great. No fault whatsoever on him. He is really being everything that everyone said he wasn't.

We are getting the shots. Melo, Jr and Kidd are just missing them. It's that simple.

It's the quality of the shots for Melo.

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Felton really needs to have the ball in his hands coming up the floor every time when they're getting into their sets. He's been our only reliable option getting into the lane. And he's been finishing all playoffs. He needs to be the guy to get Melo out of this funk by setting up easy shots for him. Melo has a confidence issue right now.

Do you not realize Melo and company are having a hard time because we aren't getting good PG play? Felton is looking to get his shot off INSTEAD of setting guys up.

Felton gets to pick his spots since he has the ball in his hands on most plays. Kidd and Prigioni are too old for the Pacer guards.

really??

Yea. Please watch the game and see where Melo is getting the ball.

i watched the game.. melo is getting the ball where he has been for the past 10 years...

AnubisADL wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Felton really needs to have the ball in his hands coming up the floor every time when they're getting into their sets. He's been our only reliable option getting into the lane. And he's been finishing all playoffs. He needs to be the guy to get Melo out of this funk by setting up easy shots for him. Melo has a confidence issue right now.

Do you not realize Melo and company are having a hard time because we aren't getting good PG play? Felton is looking to get his shot off INSTEAD of setting guys up.

Felton gets to pick his spots since he has the ball in his hands on most plays. Kidd and Prigioni are too old for the Pacer guards.

Um without Felton, we might have lost the Celtics series..............

dimicech wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Vmart wrote:I agree with you Fishmike, for me superstars shoot 50% or better. That's why I find Bernard King references to Melo' s game laughable. Look LeBron shoots way above 50%, Durant does it too so does Wade. Having purpose with shots is of utmost importance. THAT TO ME DETERMINES GREATNESS. I like Melo I will continue he to root for him to get better. I not going to put this all on him. I believe you win as a team and lose as a team. With that said Woody has to make Melo understand that quality shots is what he is looking for. As for JR I have not faith in him to bring his A game.

The only superstars that consistently shoot 50% percent or better are Dwight Howard, KD, Lebron...high 40's on a consistent basis is more reasonable. By your logic there are only three stars, but maybe you meant it that way.

KD is a creer 47% shooter. he did however shoot 50.2% this year or something like that. But to whoever said Kobe isnt a superstar is just ludicrous. Hes probably a top ten player of all time

fishmike wrote:Look at this shooting
L 10-28 .357%
W 7-23 .304%
L 8-24 .333%
L 10-35 .286%

35-110 = 32% shooting over his last 4 game in the playoffs. 38% over all.

When I would talk about Carmelo's poor playoff shooting %s the most constructive retorts I would get would be things like hater and MDA apologist.

Well how do you deny this? How do you build a team thats supposed to contend around a guy who chucks like this? When you see the volumes off poor shots he's putting up in these playoffs you can see pretty easily how his career 41% shooting and terrible post season record do go hand in hand after all.

Maybe we could get away with this against the Nets with no Rondo and Pierce shooting worth of crap. This wont work against the Pacers.

Knicks should win a couple games but this has Pacers in 6 written all over it. Hoping Im wrong, but hard to see us advancing built like this.

Melo has been playing like trash and the Knicks won't be successful this series if this keeps up. It is really that simple.

fishmike wrote:Look at this shooting
L 10-28 .357%
W 7-23 .304%
L 8-24 .333%
L 10-35 .286%

35-110 = 32% shooting over his last 4 game in the playoffs. 38% over all.

When I would talk about Carmelo's poor playoff shooting %s the most constructive retorts I would get would be things like hater and MDA apologist.

Well how do you deny this? How do you build a team thats supposed to contend around a guy who chucks like this? When you see the volumes off poor shots he's putting up in these playoffs you can see pretty easily how his career 41% shooting and terrible post season record do go hand in hand after all.

Maybe we could get away with this against the Nets with no Rondo and Pierce shooting worth of crap. This wont work against the Pacers.

Knicks should win a couple games but this has Pacers in 6 written all over it. Hoping Im wrong, but hard to see us advancing built like this.

Quote of the Night...by Dwayne Wade

"I hate that I really value efficiency. Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."

Welp "Tomorrow Came" and our STAR is Hoisting Up Shots Under 42 PACENT

VERY FEW OF US SAW THIS BEFORE WADE DECIDED TO FIRE SHOTS AT MELO ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Felton really needs to have the ball in his hands coming up the floor every time when they're getting into their sets. He's been our only reliable option getting into the lane. And he's been finishing all playoffs. He needs to be the guy to get Melo out of this funk by setting up easy shots for him. Melo has a confidence issue right now.

Do you not realize Melo and company are having a hard time because we aren't getting good PG play? Felton is looking to get his shot off INSTEAD of setting guys up.

Felton gets to pick his spots since he has the ball in his hands on most plays. Kidd and Prigioni are too old for the Pacer guards.

really??

Yea. Please watch the game and see where Melo is getting the ball.

Go watch the game. Thats that what happening.

One thing... I will not question MElo's effort. Dude is leaving it all on the floor which is why I have some hope still for this series. The effort is there. But like Bip said, time an time again he threw himself against the wall which Hibbert was and was crying he wasnt getting the calls against one of the best shot blockers in the game.

As for Kobe... PLEASE let it go. This is the first time Melo was able to outplay Paul Pierce to win a playoff series. Supporting cast? When Melo starts picking up the all NBA first team defense awards year after year after year he wont hear a peeep from anyone about his FG%. But he's not a defensive player. He's a scorer is finally playing some defense. And right now his scoring sucks and Knicks have lost 3 of the last 4 playoff games for no other glaring reason than they have a guy taking 27.5 shots a game during that stretch and hitting 32% of them.

So far I have heard poor coaching and poor PG play. I believe someone left out MDA's lingering coaching still a negative factor?

AnubisADL wrote:Wade cant shoot and plays with Bosh and Lebron.

Wade can afford to not take shots. The Heat win without him even playing.

Wade shot around 50% from the field prior to Bosh and LeBron coming to Miami.

fishmike wrote:Look at this shooting
L 10-28 .357%
W 7-23 .304%
L 8-24 .333%
L 10-35 .286%

35-110 = 32% shooting over his last 4 game in the playoffs. 38% over all.

When I would talk about Carmelo's poor playoff shooting %s the most constructive retorts I would get would be things like hater and MDA apologist.

Well how do you deny this? How do you build a team thats supposed to contend around a guy who chucks like this? When you see the volumes off poor shots he's putting up in these playoffs you can see pretty easily how his career 41% shooting and terrible post season record do go hand in hand after all.

Maybe we could get away with this against the Nets with no Rondo and Pierce shooting worth of crap. This wont work against the Pacers.

Knicks should win a couple games but this has Pacers in 6 written all over it. Hoping Im wrong, but hard to see us advancing built like this.

Silly thread....Summary of this thread..Let's ignore that after MDA's woeful coaching stint, Melo led this franchise to a record of 72-34 winning the division in how many years, while Amare has been doing what exactly!!!...Also, Lets ignore that Boston has owned our arses, while Paul Pierces of the world romp and mocked us on the Garden floor, for the last decade...Now folks, ignore all that and lets focus on the last 4 games...Can anything be more outrageous and pathetic??...Really guys??..Is this the best you can do???

Hersports85 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

fishmike wrote:Look at this shooting
L 10-28 .357%
W 7-23 .304%
L 8-24 .333%
L 10-35 .286%

35-110 = 32% shooting over his last 4 game in the playoffs. 38% over all.

When I would talk about Carmelo's poor playoff shooting %s the most constructive retorts I would get would be things like hater and MDA apologist.

Well how do you deny this? How do you build a team thats supposed to contend around a guy who chucks like this? When you see the volumes off poor shots he's putting up in these playoffs you can see pretty easily how his career 41% shooting and terrible post season record do go hand in hand after all.

Maybe we could get away with this against the Nets with no Rondo and Pierce shooting worth of crap. This wont work against the Pacers.

Knicks should win a couple games but this has Pacers in 6 written all over it. Hoping Im wrong, but hard to see us advancing built like this.

Quote of the Night...by Dwayne Wade

"I hate that I really value efficiency. Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."

Welp "Tomorrow Came" and our STAR is Hoisting Up Shots Under 42 PACENT

VERY FEW OF US SAW THIS BEFORE WADE DECIDED TO FIRE SHOTS AT MELO ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

Well, That's funny considering Wade had 4 consecutive games where he shot under 40% last year in the playoffs, and totaling 9 under 42% .. And yet he kept shooting.

Wade was in a slump in the semi-conference finals ... didn't stop shooting, and eventually put together a few efficient games

7-19 36%
8-23 34%
8-22 36%
2-13 %15

Same during the Boston series
9-20 45%
7-22 31%
10-22 %45
6-17 %35
8-17 %47
7-22 %31

This year
5-12 %41
8-14 %57
1-12 %083

He didn't stop shooting none whatsoever when his shot wasn't falling. That's exactly why Melo is still shooting. Only way out of a slump is to shoot your way out of it and then put together a few great games. If we're honest, Wade has a lot of shooting nights like this, just backs it up with shooting 60 - 70% some nights which gives his overall a really great boost.