BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Briggs, you give a lot of good insights but you seem to have a short memory. Countless times I've seen you build a guy up to superhero status after a good run or down to junk after a bad run. This is the same guy you said had saved our season not too long ago. Injured players don't produce well. You don't trade a guy every time he gets injured.

Almost every player is injured in the playoffs--either you can play or you cant. Kenyon Martin had to be carted off the court a week ago. He came to play. What happened to Tyson chandler last year in the playoffs? Come to play.

VCoug wrote:No way, if we're trading Chandler we need more back then just a practically washed up 3. Any trade would have to include a starting quality center and at least another piece. I've thought that OKC, GS, and LAC would make the most sense in terms of need and assets. OKC could trade Perkins and someone they got in the Harden trade, LAC has DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe, and GS has Bogut and some other nice players they'd probably be willing to give up. As much as I like Martin and appreciate what he's done for us I'd prefer not to be going forward with a 35-year old, undersized center.

Thank you. Can't someone posted a Marion for Chandler. First of all, Centers are a dying breed and when you have a good (mobile) one, you either keep him or, you get more than Marion in the deal.

BRIGGS wrote:Lets just hope Tyson remembers to bring is cahones to the Garden tonight and produces instead of being beat to position and held scoreless. Im asking for a guy who makes 14.5mm who says he is 100% healthy to step up.

said his conditioning was the problem because of the games he had sat out. I expect to see a more productive Tyson tonight. Also, to say he was held scoreless, which is true but, he played very, very limited minutes so, that might be a bit misleading on your part. I think had he played more, he definitely would have scored. The game started opening up more in the 2nd half which, Chandler played none of (unless I'm mistaken).

BRIGGS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Lets just hope Tyson remembers to bring is cahones to the Garden tonight and produces instead of being beat to position and held scoreless. Im asking for a guy who makes 14.5mm who says he is 100% healthy to step up.

said his conditioning was the problem because of the games he had sat out. I expect to see a more productive Tyson tonight. Also, to say he was held scoreless, which is true but, he played very, very limited minutes so, that might be a bit misleading on your part. I think had he played more, he definitely would have scored. The game started opening up more in the 2nd half which, Chandler played none of (unless I'm mistaken).

If Tyson wouldve played and Kenyon didn't-- we wouldve lost. Earl Baroon didnt play for 3 months and pulled down 18 rebounds. No points no FGAs no FT and 5 rebounds while we got pounded inside when he was in there. Go look at their shot chart. What was the first thing Doc Rivers said after evaluating game 1--lets go to KG. Im rooting for Tyson to shut me up.

You can't compare a guy coming off an injury that PREVENTED him form properly working on his conditioning with guys that were healthy and had ample time to work on their conditioning. Tyson has been solid for us this season and I fully expect that to continue. What your saying is grossly unfair.

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Lets just hope Tyson remembers to bring is cahones to the Garden tonight and produces instead of being beat to position and held scoreless. Im asking for a guy who makes 14.5mm who says he is 100% healthy to step up.

said his conditioning was the problem because of the games he had sat out. I expect to see a more productive Tyson tonight. Also, to say he was held scoreless, which is true but, he played very, very limited minutes so, that might be a bit misleading on your part. I think had he played more, he definitely would have scored. The game started opening up more in the 2nd half which, Chandler played none of (unless I'm mistaken).

If Tyson wouldve played and Kenyon didn't-- we wouldve lost. Earl Baroon didnt play for 3 months and pulled down 18 rebounds. No points no FGAs no FT and 5 rebounds while we got pounded inside when he was in there. Go look at their shot chart. What was the first thing Doc Rivers said after evaluating game 1--lets go to KG. Im rooting for Tyson to shut me up.

You can't compare a guy coming off an injury that PREVENTED him form properly working on his conditioning with guys that were healthy and had ample time to work on their conditioning. Tyson has been solid for us this season and I fully expect that to continue. What your saying is grossly unfair.

He missed two weeks? Im 44 if I miss two weeks of not running I can still play pick up with other physical problems. Ive got to believe Tyson 14 years younger and likely in much better shape can miss two weeks and get up and down and score. Hes been terrible in his 6 playoff games for us. I would like for him to step up. Play like you did against Oklahoma

BRIGGS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Lets just hope Tyson remembers to bring is cahones to the Garden tonight and produces instead of being beat to position and held scoreless. Im asking for a guy who makes 14.5mm who says he is 100% healthy to step up.

said his conditioning was the problem because of the games he had sat out. I expect to see a more productive Tyson tonight. Also, to say he was held scoreless, which is true but, he played very, very limited minutes so, that might be a bit misleading on your part. I think had he played more, he definitely would have scored. The game started opening up more in the 2nd half which, Chandler played none of (unless I'm mistaken).

If Tyson wouldve played and Kenyon didn't-- we wouldve lost. Earl Baroon didnt play for 3 months and pulled down 18 rebounds. No points no FGAs no FT and 5 rebounds while we got pounded inside when he was in there. Go look at their shot chart. What was the first thing Doc Rivers said after evaluating game 1--lets go to KG. Im rooting for Tyson to shut me up.

You can't compare a guy coming off an injury that PREVENTED him form properly working on his conditioning with guys that were healthy and had ample time to work on their conditioning. Tyson has been solid for us this season and I fully expect that to continue. What your saying is grossly unfair.

He missed two weeks? Im 44 if I miss two weeks of not running I can still play pick up with other physical problems. Ive got to believe Tyson 14 years younger and likely in much better shape can miss two weeks and get up and down and score. Hes been terrible in his 6 playoff games for us. I would like for him to step up. Play like you did against Oklahoma

he missed 19 of 20 games. He plays against professionals not guys at the YMCA. Their level of conditioning is light years beyond what internet geniuses like us can even imagine. The fact that you are able to compete afterward doesn't speak to to rigors of professional sports.

He's out there with a bunch of guys that can run like a gazelle. His inability to work on conditioning would of course be a significant set back. Players OFTEN put off playing until they can get their conditioning to where it needs to be. Because it was the playoffs, he tried to give it a go. I expect him to be a much improved players tonight.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Lets just hope Tyson remembers to bring is cahones to the Garden tonight and produces instead of being beat to position and held scoreless. Im asking for a guy who makes 14.5mm who says he is 100% healthy to step up.

said his conditioning was the problem because of the games he had sat out. I expect to see a more productive Tyson tonight. Also, to say he was held scoreless, which is true but, he played very, very limited minutes so, that might be a bit misleading on your part. I think had he played more, he definitely would have scored. The game started opening up more in the 2nd half which, Chandler played none of (unless I'm mistaken).

If Tyson wouldve played and Kenyon didn't-- we wouldve lost. Earl Baroon didnt play for 3 months and pulled down 18 rebounds. No points no FGAs no FT and 5 rebounds while we got pounded inside when he was in there. Go look at their shot chart. What was the first thing Doc Rivers said after evaluating game 1--lets go to KG. Im rooting for Tyson to shut me up.

You can't compare a guy coming off an injury that PREVENTED him form properly working on his conditioning with guys that were healthy and had ample time to work on their conditioning. Tyson has been solid for us this season and I fully expect that to continue. What your saying is grossly unfair.

Briggs probably would have traded Harden for Marion because Harden struggled in the NBA finals. This thread is ridiculous.

Maybe but someone posted some of Chandler playoff numbers last night/this morning and they didn't look good. The trade he suggested was bad but if Tyson contiues his struggles then maybe. Sell high.

say what you want about his post season success, we wouldn't be in our current position at the top of the Atlantic if he hadn't produced as he did and, if he wasn't part of the change in our defensive philosophy.

Its amazing how a Knick can be so loved until they have a bad game and then its....sell high. Been on this board for years so, comes as no surprise. Knick fans, only value guys that are on other teams or, former Knicks once they are gone.