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It will take 2 years to start putting a team around Melo to be a real contender. Heres why.
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CrushAlot
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3/17/2013  10:54 AM
knickscity wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

what an insulting post to those who waited two years to reset the team to zero with walsh, only to have the franchise yanked into an untenable win-now mode with this career loser and his butt-buddy dolan. takes a lot of gall to insist that we are stuck with melo and must build around him. enjoy your fantasy world.


I said this before and i say it again.

As much as folks blame Dolan this dual max player thing was all Walsh, and he struck out massively, and utter failure.

Phx didn't want Amare at that price and Donnie made surre to sdalvage something because he knows Knicks fans only want a morsel.

The Melo trade was his as well, just because he didn't pull the trigger dont mean he didn't lay out the plans and pave the negotiating door.

He was an accomplice to all the actions, and it started when Walsh specifically said he was willing to part with two of the three young guys, which is exactly what happened.

Dude was terrible.

Agree. The McGrady trade was awful as well.
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3/17/2013  10:58 AM
TeamBall wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:It's not either Dolan or Walsh - not an either/or. Dolan probably didn't have the patience to do a gradual rebuild when we didn't get Lebron or Wade.
Dolan messed up spending far more on role players contributing nothing than on Lin though.

So you're saying Dolan forced Walsh to give Amare that contract?

I didn't say it with the certainty you suggest
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3/17/2013  11:00 AM
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TeamBall wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:It's not either Dolan or Walsh - not an either/or. Dolan probably didn't have the patience to do a gradual rebuild when we didn't get Lebron or Wade.
Dolan messed up spending far more on role players contributing nothing than on Lin though.

So you're saying Dolan forced Walsh to give Amare that contract?

I didn't say it with the certainty you suggest

Ok then my fault
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3/17/2013  11:06 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

what an insulting post to those who waited two years to reset the team to zero with walsh, only to have the franchise yanked into an untenable win-now mode with this career loser and his butt-buddy dolan. takes a lot of gall to insist that we are stuck with melo and must build around him. enjoy your fantasy world.


I said this before and i say it again.

As much as folks blame Dolan this dual max player thing was all Walsh, and he struck out massively, and utter failure.

Phx didn't want Amare at that price and Donnie made surre to sdalvage something because he knows Knicks fans only want a morsel.

The Melo trade was his as well, just because he didn't pull the trigger dont mean he didn't lay out the plans and pave the negotiating door.

He was an accomplice to all the actions, and it started when Walsh specifically said he was willing to part with two of the three young guys, which is exactly what happened.

Dude was terrible.

Agree. The McGrady trade was awful as well.

Yep, what happened to our 2012 draft pick? Oh yeah, Donnie gave it away.

Luckily, the Rockets idiocly wasted it on Royce White.

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3/17/2013  11:07 AM
TeamBall wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:It's not either Dolan or Walsh - not an either/or. Dolan probably didn't have the patience to do a gradual rebuild when we didn't get Lebron or Wade.
Dolan messed up spending far more on role players contributing nothing than on Lin though.

So you're saying Dolan forced Walsh to give Amare that contract?

I didn't say it with the certainty you suggest

Ok then my fault

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3/17/2013  8:04 PM
dk7th wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

what an insulting post to those who waited two years to reset the team to zero with walsh, only to have the franchise yanked into an untenable win-now mode with this career loser and his butt-buddy dolan. takes a lot of gall to insist that we are stuck with melo and must build around him. enjoy your fantasy world.


Papabear Says

Fantasy world No you are living in a fantasy world if you think Dolan is getting rid of Melo. People pay to come see Melo play. So you get real and enjoy the ride for the next 5 or 6 years and if you don't like it you can always jump off to Denver.

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3/17/2013  9:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/17/2013  9:55 PM
dk7th wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

what an insulting post to those who waited two years to reset the team to zero with walsh, only to have the franchise yanked into an untenable win-now mode with this career loser and his butt-buddy dolan. takes a lot of gall to insist that we are stuck with melo and must build around him. enjoy your fantasy world.

Not to mention how many times does someone with any inkling of basketball knowledge need to see rebuilding around Melo for like the umpteen time doesn't work? If it didn't work in Denver after 3 attempts and it didn't work here after 2 attempts, then it's not going to work 2yrs from now when he's 30-31...

Make like SLAUGHTERHOUSE and MOVE THE FRICK ON from this Chimpmunk!!!!!

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3/17/2013  10:06 PM
Papabear wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

what an insulting post to those who waited two years to reset the team to zero with walsh, only to have the franchise yanked into an untenable win-now mode with this career loser and his butt-buddy dolan. takes a lot of gall to insist that we are stuck with melo and must build around him. enjoy your fantasy world.


Papabear Says

Fantasy world No you are living in a fantasy world if you think Dolan is getting rid of Melo. People pay to come see Melo play. So you get real and enjoy the ride for the next 5 or 6 years and if you don't like it you can always jump off to Denver.


Uncle bear says

Sadly you are right. People come here to watch Melo. We dont care about championship.

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3/17/2013  10:09 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is to all the posters on this forum. Dolan can blow up this team and when the dust clears Melo will still be standing. Dolan will not let him go. Sooo here is the plan and you can dispute me but you know I'm right. Now Amare's Contract will be up in 2 years. Anyone who we get by way of trade or just signing MUST BE A TWO WAY PLAYER They must be fast and very athletic and can shoot the rock.We must get a top tier point guard in the draft. Buy draft picks and keep Shrump. When Amare's contract is up get another real superstar or 2 stars for the price of one. Get what we can get by trading Felton. Get rid of Woody and bring in Phil Jackson no matter what the cost. Make sure that before we sing top players that they must be 100% healthy. There also must be some accountability by all of the players of the night party life in New York. Melo needs to have the pressure taken off of him. He had better but not great teams in Denver. We can fuss pro and con all night long but we all must accept one thing. Melo is here for the long haul.

For someone who claims to be as old and successful as he is, why do you still refer to yourself in third person?

Also, nothing you said made any sense or has any chance of happening.

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It will take 2 years to start putting a team around Melo to be a real contender. Heres why.

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