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Nalod
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3/15/2013  8:34 AM
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Denver is going nowhere. They are capped out. How are they supposed to improve?

Denver has a team of mental midgets with no "real go to guy" When the 2nd season come and the pressure to shoot comes they all will be looking to give the ball up to a phantom go to guy that doesn't exist.

They are the new phoenix. LOL

LOL!!!!

From what position do you make this from? You been going to many championship parades lately that you can turn your nose up at PHX that avged 54 games a year?

Yea it was a gimmick, that got old, didn't win any Chips, but sure made the fans come back just to fall short every year.

Great entertainment though !

Isiah got a spell on you!

Naw, he spilled something on you and ya never used tide to get it off.

wha'?

BTW, look at Memphis' season, and record after they traded Rudy Gay. Another of those "gimmick" teams that are better than the knicks currrently and lack a Mooby.

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jrodmc
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3/15/2013  9:21 AM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We look at it that you build around a "Star"......

We thought with Gallo, we'd never really grow.

Gallo might not be a leader statistically but the Knuggs have only one player on their roster (Ty Lawson) from when Melo played there two years ago.

So in a way they in fact built around Gallo and while not an elite team, they are on the rise with assets going forward to MAYBE get their........

Knuggs built it around Gallo: Ironic!

Name a team that goes far in the playoffs that doesn't have a go to guy ?

Nugget fans are in for a rude awakening, at best they are built for the regular season.

Pressure of the playoffs brings out the mental midgets who shined in the reg season , but wilt under the pressure of meaningful games in the 2nd season. All the nuggets fit that category.

Since the majority of comparison is Knicks vs. Nuggs and "the trade", one can also conclude "how has having a go to guy worked for us?" IM pretty somber right now but I don't see us going very far this year. This will be three years with Melo in the playoffs.

I think it was good trade for the knicks. We are in the playoffs three years in a row which is better than before.

That in itself is a good thing. No complaints.

The long standing arguement has been: "We could not build around Gallo!"

BUt Denver did. They build around a good player who is inconsistant but because they are not paying him a star they were able to add lots of pieces and keep picks, thus they traded Melo and rebuilt around Gallo!

Not in the traditional sense of him being a closing star.

Denver is getting better as we are falling apart. Nobody here is saying Knuggs are a great team but the trend has them getting better thru the season. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens.

But if you want to compare you can't deny that since the trade, only Lawson exists and Gallo was the best player Denver recieved back. Not the best player traded, but the best player. They also got Corey Brewer.

Denver is a better team than us right now. Not earlier in the season.

Like Melos knee, its all a fluid situation.

Insert "Nets" and "Blatche" or "Rockets" and "Harden" and "Golden State" and "DLee" for "Nuggets" and "Gallo".
Cut and paste when and where appropriate.

The death of Centrism. You read it here first, lumpers!

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3/15/2013  11:28 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We look at it that you build around a "Star"......

We thought with Gallo, we'd never really grow.

Gallo might not be a leader statistically but the Knuggs have only one player on their roster (Ty Lawson) from when Melo played there two years ago.

So in a way they in fact built around Gallo and while not an elite team, they are on the rise with assets going forward to MAYBE get their........

Knuggs built it around Gallo: Ironic!

Name a team that goes far in the playoffs that doesn't have a go to guy ?

Nugget fans are in for a rude awakening, at best they are built for the regular season.

Pressure of the playoffs brings out the mental midgets who shined in the reg season , but wilt under the pressure of meaningful games in the 2nd season. All the nuggets fit that category.

Since the majority of comparison is Knicks vs. Nuggs and "the trade", one can also conclude "how has having a go to guy worked for us?" IM pretty somber right now but I don't see us going very far this year. This will be three years with Melo in the playoffs.

I think it was good trade for the knicks. We are in the playoffs three years in a row which is better than before.

That in itself is a good thing. No complaints.

The long standing arguement has been: "We could not build around Gallo!"

BUt Denver did. They build around a good player who is inconsistant but because they are not paying him a star they were able to add lots of pieces and keep picks, thus they traded Melo and rebuilt around Gallo!

Not in the traditional sense of him being a closing star.

Denver is getting better as we are falling apart. Nobody here is saying Knuggs are a great team but the trend has them getting better thru the season. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens.

But if you want to compare you can't deny that since the trade, only Lawson exists and Gallo was the best player Denver recieved back. Not the best player traded, but the best player. They also got Corey Brewer.

Denver is a better team than us right now. Not earlier in the season.

Like Melos knee, its all a fluid situation.

Insert "Nets" and "Blatche" or "Rockets" and "Harden" and "Golden State" and "DLee" for "Nuggets" and "Gallo".
Cut and paste when and where appropriate.

The death of Centrism. You read it here first, lumpers!

So any "conversation" about how other teams build you take it as a change of religious sect?

Denver built around Gallo, and gallo is not star. Nuggs are good.

Lumping and Labeling.

Deflect the conversation don't change the outcome.

I accept the knicks for what they are.

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3/15/2013  2:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2013  2:34 PM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We look at it that you build around a "Star"......

We thought with Gallo, we'd never really grow.

Gallo might not be a leader statistically but the Knuggs have only one player on their roster (Ty Lawson) from when Melo played there two years ago.

So in a way they in fact built around Gallo and while not an elite team, they are on the rise with assets going forward to MAYBE get their........

Knuggs built it around Gallo: Ironic!

Name a team that goes far in the playoffs that doesn't have a go to guy ?

Nugget fans are in for a rude awakening, at best they are built for the regular season.

Pressure of the playoffs brings out the mental midgets who shined in the reg season , but wilt under the pressure of meaningful games in the 2nd season. All the nuggets fit that category.

Since the majority of comparison is Knicks vs. Nuggs and "the trade", one can also conclude "how has having a go to guy worked for us?" IM pretty somber right now but I don't see us going very far this year. This will be three years with Melo in the playoffs.

I think it was good trade for the knicks. We are in the playoffs three years in a row which is better than before.

That in itself is a good thing. No complaints.

The long standing arguement has been: "We could not build around Gallo!"

BUt Denver did. They build around a good player who is inconsistant but because they are not paying him a star they were able to add lots of pieces and keep picks, thus they traded Melo and rebuilt around Gallo!

Not in the traditional sense of him being a closing star.

Denver is getting better as we are falling apart. Nobody here is saying Knuggs are a great team but the trend has them getting better thru the season. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens.

But if you want to compare you can't deny that since the trade, only Lawson exists and Gallo was the best player Denver recieved back. Not the best player traded, but the best player. They also got Corey Brewer.

Denver is a better team than us right now. Not earlier in the season.

Like Melos knee, its all a fluid situation.

Insert "Nets" and "Blatche" or "Rockets" and "Harden" and "Golden State" and "DLee" for "Nuggets" and "Gallo".
Cut and paste when and where appropriate.

The death of Centrism. You read it here first, lumpers!

So any "conversation" about how other teams build you take it as a change of religious sect?

Denver built around Gallo, and gallo is not star. Nuggs are good.

Lumping and Labeling.

Deflect the conversation don't change the outcome.

I accept the knicks for what they are.

I don't get the continual language barrier. This is a fairly straightforward medium, a little light on inflection and intention, but at last count, we're posting about our supposedly favorite NBA team, not applying for visiting scholar status at Oxford's school of latent sociopathology.

IM pretty somber right now

a change of religious sect?

Either you're feeling Catholic or you're feeling Islamic. You can't have both. Somber Centrist Homer. Labels can be painful, but what I don't understand, is if you can provide endless reasons expressing the viewpoint/worldview, why can't you embrace the label? Does it hurt that much, really? Is it limiting your freedom or infringing on your posting rights, somehow? Stand up, young man; you've got to stand for something!

I can feel Somber but maintain my Homer card? It doesn't work, just like folks trying to explain how effing one wife is the same as effing multiple wives. 1 does not equal 4, nor does 4 equal 1, even though 1 is included in the set of 4. This is simple mathematics. Is 1 better than 4? Is 4 better than 1? Depends on your point of view, but you can't maintain that 1 is the same as 4. Those who eff 1 and those who eff 4 may both love women. But they aren't doing the exact same thing. One effs a woman, the other effs women.

Now we have the Lumper label, which seems to be more of a generally negative posting attitude to be avoided than an actual label. All three religious sects can have this problem.

Is negative negative, or is positive negative? Or is negative actually positive? If I'm negative, am I just trying to get the team to reach positive land through negative energy? Could my positivism actually be detrimental to any positive Knick actualities?

Things have gotten real complicated around here.

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3/16/2013  2:38 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We look at it that you build around a "Star"......

We thought with Gallo, we'd never really grow.

Gallo might not be a leader statistically but the Knuggs have only one player on their roster (Ty Lawson) from when Melo played there two years ago.

So in a way they in fact built around Gallo and while not an elite team, they are on the rise with assets going forward to MAYBE get their........

Knuggs built it around Gallo: Ironic!

Name a team that goes far in the playoffs that doesn't have a go to guy ?

Nugget fans are in for a rude awakening, at best they are built for the regular season.

Pressure of the playoffs brings out the mental midgets who shined in the reg season , but wilt under the pressure of meaningful games in the 2nd season. All the nuggets fit that category.

Since the majority of comparison is Knicks vs. Nuggs and "the trade", one can also conclude "how has having a go to guy worked for us?" IM pretty somber right now but I don't see us going very far this year. This will be three years with Melo in the playoffs.

I think it was good trade for the knicks. We are in the playoffs three years in a row which is better than before.

That in itself is a good thing. No complaints.

The long standing arguement has been: "We could not build around Gallo!"

BUt Denver did. They build around a good player who is inconsistant but because they are not paying him a star they were able to add lots of pieces and keep picks, thus they traded Melo and rebuilt around Gallo!

Not in the traditional sense of him being a closing star.

Denver is getting better as we are falling apart. Nobody here is saying Knuggs are a great team but the trend has them getting better thru the season. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens.

But if you want to compare you can't deny that since the trade, only Lawson exists and Gallo was the best player Denver recieved back. Not the best player traded, but the best player. They also got Corey Brewer.

Denver is a better team than us right now. Not earlier in the season.

Like Melos knee, its all a fluid situation.

Insert "Nets" and "Blatche" or "Rockets" and "Harden" and "Golden State" and "DLee" for "Nuggets" and "Gallo".
Cut and paste when and where appropriate.

The death of Centrism. You read it here first, lumpers!

So any "conversation" about how other teams build you take it as a change of religious sect?

Denver built around Gallo, and gallo is not star. Nuggs are good.

Lumping and Labeling.

Deflect the conversation don't change the outcome.

I accept the knicks for what they are.

I don't get the continual language barrier. This is a fairly straightforward medium, a little light on inflection and intention, but at last count, we're posting about our supposedly favorite NBA team, not applying for visiting scholar status at Oxford's school of latent sociopathology.

IM pretty somber right now

a change of religious sect?

Either you're feeling Catholic or you're feeling Islamic. You can't have both. Somber Centrist Homer. Labels can be painful, but what I don't understand, is if you can provide endless reasons expressing the viewpoint/worldview, why can't you embrace the label? Does it hurt that much, really? Is it limiting your freedom or infringing on your posting rights, somehow? Stand up, young man; you've got to stand for something!

I can feel Somber but maintain my Homer card? It doesn't work, just like folks trying to explain how effing one wife is the same as effing multiple wives. 1 does not equal 4, nor does 4 equal 1, even though 1 is included in the set of 4. This is simple mathematics. Is 1 better than 4? Is 4 better than 1? Depends on your point of view, but you can't maintain that 1 is the same as 4. Those who eff 1 and those who eff 4 may both love women. But they aren't doing the exact same thing. One effs a woman, the other effs women.

Now we have the Lumper label, which seems to be more of a generally negative posting attitude to be avoided than an actual label. All three religious sects can have this problem.

Is negative negative, or is positive negative? Or is negative actually positive? If I'm negative, am I just trying to get the team to reach positive land through negative energy? Could my positivism actually be detrimental to any positive Knick actualities?

Things have gotten real complicated around here.

Holy cannoli, you aren't kidding

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Nalod
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3/16/2013  8:31 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We look at it that you build around a "Star"......

We thought with Gallo, we'd never really grow.

Gallo might not be a leader statistically but the Knuggs have only one player on their roster (Ty Lawson) from when Melo played there two years ago.

So in a way they in fact built around Gallo and while not an elite team, they are on the rise with assets going forward to MAYBE get their........

Knuggs built it around Gallo: Ironic!

Name a team that goes far in the playoffs that doesn't have a go to guy ?

Nugget fans are in for a rude awakening, at best they are built for the regular season.

Pressure of the playoffs brings out the mental midgets who shined in the reg season , but wilt under the pressure of meaningful games in the 2nd season. All the nuggets fit that category.

Since the majority of comparison is Knicks vs. Nuggs and "the trade", one can also conclude "how has having a go to guy worked for us?" IM pretty somber right now but I don't see us going very far this year. This will be three years with Melo in the playoffs.

I think it was good trade for the knicks. We are in the playoffs three years in a row which is better than before.

That in itself is a good thing. No complaints.

The long standing arguement has been: "We could not build around Gallo!"

BUt Denver did. They build around a good player who is inconsistant but because they are not paying him a star they were able to add lots of pieces and keep picks, thus they traded Melo and rebuilt around Gallo!

Not in the traditional sense of him being a closing star.

Denver is getting better as we are falling apart. Nobody here is saying Knuggs are a great team but the trend has them getting better thru the season. Come playoff time, we'll see what happens.

But if you want to compare you can't deny that since the trade, only Lawson exists and Gallo was the best player Denver recieved back. Not the best player traded, but the best player. They also got Corey Brewer.

Denver is a better team than us right now. Not earlier in the season.

Like Melos knee, its all a fluid situation.

Insert "Nets" and "Blatche" or "Rockets" and "Harden" and "Golden State" and "DLee" for "Nuggets" and "Gallo".
Cut and paste when and where appropriate.

The death of Centrism. You read it here first, lumpers!

So any "conversation" about how other teams build you take it as a change of religious sect?

Denver built around Gallo, and gallo is not star. Nuggs are good.

Lumping and Labeling.

Deflect the conversation don't change the outcome.

I accept the knicks for what they are.

I don't get the continual language barrier. This is a fairly straightforward medium, a little light on inflection and intention, but at last count, we're posting about our supposedly favorite NBA team, not applying for visiting scholar status at Oxford's school of latent sociopathology.

IM pretty somber right now

a change of religious sect?

Either you're feeling Catholic or you're feeling Islamic. You can't have both. Somber Centrist Homer. Labels can be painful, but what I don't understand, is if you can provide endless reasons expressing the viewpoint/worldview, why can't you embrace the label? Does it hurt that much, really? Is it limiting your freedom or infringing on your posting rights, somehow? Stand up, young man; you've got to stand for something!

I can feel Somber but maintain my Homer card? It doesn't work, just like folks trying to explain how effing one wife is the same as effing multiple wives. 1 does not equal 4, nor does 4 equal 1, even though 1 is included in the set of 4. This is simple mathematics. Is 1 better than 4? Is 4 better than 1? Depends on your point of view, but you can't maintain that 1 is the same as 4. Those who eff 1 and those who eff 4 may both love women. But they aren't doing the exact same thing. One effs a woman, the other effs women.

Now we have the Lumper label, which seems to be more of a generally negative posting attitude to be avoided than an actual label. All three religious sects can have this problem.

Is negative negative, or is positive negative? Or is negative actually positive? If I'm negative, am I just trying to get the team to reach positive land through negative energy? Could my positivism actually be detrimental to any positive Knick actualities?

Things have gotten real complicated around here.

Holy cannoli, you aren't kidding

Jrod went where even I dare not go!

He lost me. but I appreciate the effort!

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3/18/2013  8:28 AM
Well, anyway, we're still better than the Nets! It's not really much, but it's something.

Just getting back on topic.

Nalod
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3/18/2013  8:30 AM
jrodmc wrote:Well, anyway, we're still better than the Nets! It's not really much, but it's something.

Just getting back on topic.

Hanging on by a thread.......

Hello Brooklyn? Hello mediocrity!

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3/18/2013  4:08 PM
The Nuggets are a 5 hr energy drink in the reg season, come playoff time they become "SCURRED" and perform like this

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Nalod
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3/18/2013  4:29 PM
playa2 wrote:The Nuggets are a 5 hr energy drink in the reg season, come playoff time they become "SCURRED" and perform like this

Correlate the Knuggs with Broncos? I don't really get it but the only thing that comes to mind is:

Tebow is 1-2 in the playoffs.

Knicks 1-13 in last 10 years.

Your point is?

YOu do realize the knicks have not been a good franchise in a really long time, right? You do get that?

Point to my post (for JRODM) was Broolyn failed to tie for division lead.

one way to look at it.........

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