CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

Andrew wrote:Action, did you actually watch the video? Did you think Lee deserved a suspension? Looked to me like Lee's extent to the entire thing was a couple of pushes....sort of similar (a bit worse) to what Chandler was involved in. If the other players hadn't escalated it I doubt that anyone would be suspended...actually I'm shocked that Curry didn't get suspended.

I did watch the video & don't think that he should've been suspended but I really was just pointing out the national media hypocrisy on this issue. If Lee was suspended for instigating the initial situation then shouldn't KG also have been suspended instead of being a master manipulator & savvy vet who got into Melo's head??? And since he was suspended why isnt his leadership & maturity being criticized by all the same people that claim he's an All-Star now & we never should've let him go??? I'm just looking for a fair standard to be applied equally by both the media & the fanbase.

kg and lee are not comparable situations. one was mental and the other physical.

also, as you have admitted, agreed, conceded that it was a mistake that lee and hibbert should have been suspended, why even make it an issue?

you are putting the cart before the horse here. you are saying that, since he was suspended, it in fact was an indictment on his leadership and maturity. but since it was wrong to suspend him then it is also wrong to accuse him of not being a leader and lacking maturity.

make sense?

Melo shouldn't have been suspended either. The point is the double standard applied for different guys.

I disagree. If a player goes to another players team bus, that player should be suspended. Not smart and way too public. take it offline.

mrKnickShot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

Andrew wrote:Action, did you actually watch the video? Did you think Lee deserved a suspension? Looked to me like Lee's extent to the entire thing was a couple of pushes....sort of similar (a bit worse) to what Chandler was involved in. If the other players hadn't escalated it I doubt that anyone would be suspended...actually I'm shocked that Curry didn't get suspended.

I did watch the video & don't think that he should've been suspended but I really was just pointing out the national media hypocrisy on this issue. If Lee was suspended for instigating the initial situation then shouldn't KG also have been suspended instead of being a master manipulator & savvy vet who got into Melo's head??? And since he was suspended why isnt his leadership & maturity being criticized by all the same people that claim he's an All-Star now & we never should've let him go??? I'm just looking for a fair standard to be applied equally by both the media & the fanbase.

kg and lee are not comparable situations. one was mental and the other physical.

also, as you have admitted, agreed, conceded that it was a mistake that lee and hibbert should have been suspended, why even make it an issue?

you are putting the cart before the horse here. you are saying that, since he was suspended, it in fact was an indictment on his leadership and maturity. but since it was wrong to suspend him then it is also wrong to accuse him of not being a leader and lacking maturity.

make sense?

Melo shouldn't have been suspended either. The point is the double standard applied for different guys.

I disagree. If a player goes to another players team bus, that player should be suspended. Not smart and way too public. take it offline.

exactly. settle the score on the court. there's nothing to "talk about" or "discuss" with garnett after the game by the team bus. melo on some serious tilt and it's not a good look.

mrKnickShot wrote:today, all fights should be settled via twitter

haha i agree with you. hell just cooled off a few degrees

VCoug wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:David Lee has been in the league for 8 years now.

During his first 7 years?

Say hello to...

A.) 7 consecutive seasons of losing (below .500) basketball

and

B.) 7 consecutive seasons of no postseason play for Lee and/or his team(s).

You must first make the postseason before having a chance to win a championship. David Lee on the other hand, can't even win during regular seasons.

...OK?

Deductive reasoning supports his campaigning for the elevation of Melo's status.

If he can find more players that don't support his position then his position stands better in the face of scrutiny.

If they are segmented via numerically (ie: 1., 2. etc) or using the alphabet (A., B., etc) then its official status also gets validated.

Basketball is team game. When Dlee is your best player and starting center its likely playoff births are not in the cards.

DLee is on a playoff bound team this year and for the second time an allstar. Nobody labels him a "Superstar", gave him max money or holds him up to that he has failed to carry his team.

As the 30th pick the kid has exceeded expectations that comes with that draft position and while his defense is not noteworthy he is a two time all star who is a Double-Double machine, in the top ten every year in rebounding which is not indicative of a "Soft" player.

playa2 wrote:Didn't even notice him at the Allstar game, glad you showed his picture for proof.

He was the white guy......

Nalod wrote:

VCoug wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:David Lee has been in the league for 8 years now.

During his first 7 years?

Say hello to...

A.) 7 consecutive seasons of losing (below .500) basketball

and

B.) 7 consecutive seasons of no postseason play for Lee and/or his team(s).

You must first make the postseason before having a chance to win a championship. David Lee on the other hand, can't even win during regular seasons.

...OK?

Deductive reasoning supports his campaigning for the elevation of Melo's status.

If he can find more players that don't support his position then his position stands better in the face of scrutiny.

If they are segmented via numerically (ie: 1., 2. etc) or using the alphabet (A., B., etc) then its official status also gets validated.

Basketball is team game. When Dlee is your best player and starting center its likely playoff births are not in the cards.

DLee is on a playoff bound team this year and for the second time an allstar. Nobody labels him a "Superstar", gave him max money or holds him up to that he has failed to carry his team.

As the 30th pick the kid has exceeded expectations that comes with that draft position and while his defense is not noteworthy he is a two time all star who is a Double-Double machine, in the top ten every year in rebounding which is not indicative of a "Soft" player.

Totally true, David Lee has surpass all expectations and is one of the better fours in the NBA today, the guy can score almost 20 PPG without having many plays call for him, players like that are rare and a good fit in most NBA teams.

NYKMentality wrote:Lets cut the crap in regards to David Lee already.

He's getting paid $57,127,680 during the next 4 seasons.

That's an average of $14,281,920 per season, for a player in which has been in the league for 8 years and during his first 7 years in the league? Not a single postseason game along with 7 years of losing (below .500) basketball.

20-44.
26-32.
22-59.
32-49.
28-53.
35-38
22-35

Heading into 2012-2013 David Lee had a career losing record of 185-310 during the 495 games in which he's played in. 125 games below .500. He's been nothing more than a stat compiler on awful basketball teams, but one of the best PF's in the game today? Not a freaking chance. He may put up numbers, but he doesn't impact the game. Not with winning ways he doesn't.

As was brought up before, David Lee is a very good player who you shouldn't be building around. I really have no idea what the purpose of your post is.

Andrew wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Lets cut the crap in regards to David Lee already.

He's getting paid $57,127,680 during the next 4 seasons.

That's an average of $14,281,920 per season, for a player in which has been in the league for 8 years and during his first 7 years in the league? Not a single postseason game along with 7 years of losing (below .500) basketball.

20-44.
26-32.
22-59.
32-49.
28-53.
35-38
22-35

Heading into 2012-2013 David Lee had a career losing record of 185-310 during the 495 games in which he's played in. 125 games below .500. He's been nothing more than a stat compiler on awful basketball teams, but one of the best PF's in the game today? Not a freaking chance. He may put up numbers, but he doesn't impact the game. Not with winning ways he doesn't.

Who here was arguing that DLee is one of the best power forwards in the game?

KnicksFE stated that David Lee is one of the better 4's in the game today. I'll agree to disagree. I won't consider David Lee an immature and/or selfish player but I do consider him a career loser and stat compiler. He puts up solid numbers, but his numbers have never impacted his team(s) with winning basketball.

mrKnickShot wrote:DLee is a white draftee

Melo is a gangsta force his way here dude

I laughed at this. Good job.

NYKMentality wrote:

Andrew wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Lets cut the crap in regards to David Lee already.

He's getting paid $57,127,680 during the next 4 seasons.

That's an average of $14,281,920 per season, for a player in which has been in the league for 8 years and during his first 7 years in the league? Not a single postseason game along with 7 years of losing (below .500) basketball.

20-44.
26-32.
22-59.
32-49.
28-53.
35-38
22-35

Heading into 2012-2013 David Lee had a career losing record of 185-310 during the 495 games in which he's played in. 125 games below .500. He's been nothing more than a stat compiler on awful basketball teams, but one of the best PF's in the game today? Not a freaking chance. He may put up numbers, but he doesn't impact the game. Not with winning ways he doesn't.

Who here was arguing that DLee is one of the best power forwards in the game?

KnicksFE stated that David Lee is one of the better 4's in the game today. I'll agree to disagree. I won't consider David Lee an immature and/or selfish player but I do consider him a career loser and stat compiler. He puts up solid numbers, but his numbers have never impacted his team(s) with winning basketball.

By the All Star, David Lee was THE ONLY PLAYER IN THE NBA averaging 20PPG and 10RPG (again the ONLY PLAYER), I never said he was a franchise player or the best at his position, I said that he was one of the better 4’s in the NBA today.
As far as Lee’s number not impacting his team winning% (the Warriors are currently 6 in the West), your boy Melo hasn’t accomplish anything major in the NBA either and I consider him one of the best player at his position too, not at the level that you suggests, but definitely one of the best players at the 3 position.