NYKMentality wrote:But yea, I see the same posters who've talked up our pre-trade team as being oh so "talented" currently want nothing to do with this thread's topic of discussion, so once again...

Over the past two seasons with Minny/Denver Anthony Randolph has only managed to average 12.0 minutes, 5.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.8 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 1.07 turnovers and 1.4 personal fouls per game. He's played 56 games when compared to 67 games missed with 0.00 minutes played.

For a 6'11/220+ NBA player. He's put up awful production. More like laughing stock basketball. But yet, this is (one of) the same career nothings in which (certain) critics of the trade were full blown distraught about "losing".

But now that you critics are currently wrong as wrong could possible be in regards to the great AR, you no longer wish to talk about AR, now do you? What's there to talk about? He's only averaged 12.0 minutes, 5.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.8 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 1.07 turnovers and 1.4 personal fouls per game over the past two years. 56 games played when compared to 67 games missed of 0.00 minutes.

So now that we've discussed A-R the fan favorite, can we also speak upon the likes of...

Timofey Mozgov.
Roger Mason Jr.
Bill Walker.
Shawne Williams.
Toney Douglas.
Ronny Turiaf.
Andy Rautins.
Eddy Curry.

Which one to nitpick and/or laugh at next? Lets be honest here, that pre-trade team was "talented" right?

knickscity wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:But yea, I see the same posters who've talked up our pre-trade team as being oh so "talented" currently want nothing to do with this thread's topic of discussion, so once again...

Over the past two seasons with Minny/Denver Anthony Randolph has only managed to average 12.0 minutes, 5.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.8 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 1.07 turnovers and 1.4 personal fouls per game. He's played 56 games when compared to 67 games missed with 0.00 minutes played.

For a 6'11/220+ NBA player. He's put up awful production. More like laughing stock basketball. But yet, this is (one of) the same career nothings in which (certain) critics of the trade were full blown distraught about "losing".

But now that you critics are currently wrong as wrong could possible be in regards to the great AR, you no longer wish to talk about AR, now do you? What's there to talk about? He's only averaged 12.0 minutes, 5.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.8 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.3 steals, 1.07 turnovers and 1.4 personal fouls per game over the past two years. 56 games played when compared to 67 games missed of 0.00 minutes.

So now that we've discussed A-R the fan favorite, can we also speak upon the likes of...

Timofey Mozgov.
Roger Mason Jr.
Bill Walker.
Shawne Williams.
Toney Douglas.
Ronny Turiaf.
Andy Rautins.
Eddy Curry.

Which one to nitpick and/or laugh at next? Lets be honest here, that pre-trade team was "talented" right?

where are the starters dude?

Basketball is a team game, not a "starters game". I'm talking about the oh so "talented team" that only went 2 games above .500 after 54 games of play.

And if you're trying to talk about the STARTERS?

Both Felton and Stoudemire are still on our current Knicks team here in 2012-2013.

Melo has replaced Danilo Gallinari.

Landry Fields (forgot about him this whole time) was our starting 2G.

Mozgov was our starting Center for 14 games and Turiaf was our starting Center for 21 games. Both have been replaced by Tyson Chandler at the Center position.

How's that for STARTERS? lol.

Even Toney Dogulas started 9 games. Shawne Williams started 11 games.

Funny...

Its ok to think along those homeristic lines, but why the exhausting redundant attempt to convert others?

Why keep dragging in Houston and Denver line by line when you just look at the product.

Both teams will win championships before the Knicks.

NYKMentality wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:We could and should have been building up the assets to trade for James Harden.

Yea, because I'm sure everyone knew Harden was on the verge of hitting the trade block.

You mean like when we had enough assets to trade for Carmelo as if we knew he was not going to agree to his extension with Denver?

You mean like when the Clippers had enough assets to trade for CP3 as they knew Stern was going to veto a trade to Lakers and steer him their way?

You mean like when the Nets had enough assets to trade for Deron although the GM responsible trading for Melo had no idea he was available?

You mean like when the Nets had a half dozen expirings knowing that's all it would take to land Joe Johnson?

You mean like when the Rockets had enough assets from 2 trades they did this off-season knowing that's pretty much all it would take to land a Top 5 lottery pick who was drafted the same off-season?

You mean like when Danny Ainge traded for 2 players in the same off-season more than likely headed to the HOF both faces of their respective franchises knowing 1 franchise would give up trying to rebuild around 1 and the other having just received an extension prior to?

Nalod wrote:Jeez............

Its ok to think along those homeristic lines, but why the exhausting redundant attempt to convert others?

Knicks are like 13 deep right now. Cant someone just bump that thread where NYKmental says Woody is going to play like 13 guys because we are soooooo deep. Now he's starting threads about Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry.

God forbid Knicks lose in the first round, it will be because Copeland turned an ankle and Kidd had a stuffy nose.

jrodmc wrote:

arkrud wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:We could and should have been building up the assets to trade for James Harden.

Yea, because I'm sure everyone knew Harden was on the verge of hitting the trade block. lol.

Harden is no superstar either. You'll see while him and Lin fail to lead Houston into the postseason here in 2012-2013.

C: Tyson Chandler.
PF: David Lee.
SF: Carmelo Anthony.
2G: James Harden.
PG: Jeremy Lin.

What could have been. lol (so being sarcastic here).

The Knicks problem is not Melo trade, or Stat trade, or letting Lin walk, or signing 4 old man and dumping all young talent possible, or throwing away as much picks as possible, or getting one of the most limited coaches in NBA. The Knicks problem is that there is no desire and no need to win anything, or became a respectable team, or play the beautiful game of basketball.
Knicks are managed to be a sport reality show, produce drama, controversy, and please one man - Mr. Dolan. And it works perfectly for what is it designed for.

Explain Boston. Oh wait, PP/KG/Ray Allen > Stat/Melo/Tyson
Explain Miami. Oh wait, South Beach, that's not a reality show, right? Lebron > then anything, anybody, anywhere
Explain LA. Oh wait, Kobe's not a reality show in his own right, right? Kobe > see above.

Your Dolan hate, while comfortable and easily acceptable, doesn't explain how our franchise doesn't want to "play the beautiful game of basketball."

Lin's game has hardly been beautiful. Unless you think turnovers are beautiful.

Yes, and being in first in our Division is truly and completely disrespectable. I much prefer Gallo and yoots and draft picks and rebuilding and playing make believe tinkertoy lottery team basketball season after season.

LA/Bos/Mia have won titles with the core rosters of their current teams. So I would have to say those teams have proven that winning means something.

akrud is right... the team is Dolan's plaything. Its not about seriously winning or building anything. Never was.

1. We draft nobody
2. We don't let anyones contract expire
3. We don't sign any free agents
4. We don't make any trades.

Denver is two wins up and two losses more than us so far. Near a wash. You are aware that they drafted Faried and promoted him. Affalo rose in value and they traded him. Did lots of things that they could do because of the trade.

Denver is not great. neither are we.

We are in "win now mode" and if the regular season counts, its a good season but not a championship type run is it?

You can break it down all you want but thats not how the games are won.

They are won on the court.

What is wrong with you people.

NYKMentality wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Jeez............

Its ok to think along those homeristic lines, but why the exhausting redundant attempt to convert others?

Yeah, that's what's so tiresome.

HOMERISM IS NEVER A GOOD THING

Why do you keep avoiding this question? You must have something to hide.

So once again, what was your previous user name before creating a new one 3G4G? Something to hide? Or, are you ashamed of yourself as a person/poster?

You were asked the same question by another poster.... how about you keep it basketball related this isn't FaceBook and learn to be more concise and accurate in what you present to this forum.