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VCoug
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2/23/2013  4:29 PM
TeamBall wrote:Woody didnt actually say that did he?

I'm not a professional lip reader or anything but it looks right.

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2/23/2013  4:31 PM
If he did thats pretty bad seeing as how he doesnt treat every player on the team the same way.
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2/23/2013  4:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2013  4:35 PM
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Only coach I know who can talk to his entire roster like this is Popovich, because Ownership has his back. That's whats missing in the NBA . Management having coaches back, so that ALL the players have to get with their program

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2/23/2013  4:35 PM
Well, he picks on the guys, Copeland earlier this season and here Novak, who will not talk back, so that Woodson can appear to have some control over the team,

when in reality, if he said something like that to Carmelo or JR Swagthang, he would stand a chance of getting lip back and undermining his authority,

to my mind, this is faulty coaching, it's cutting corners and eventually gets exposed,

you can do things the right way or you can do things that appear to be right for a while, but are not really right,

only two ways to do things.

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2/23/2013  4:36 PM
Maybe his last words were "I can't fire you"
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2/23/2013  4:42 PM
Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.
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2/23/2013  4:44 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.
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2/23/2013  4:47 PM
playa2 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:

Only coach I know who can talk to his entire roster like this is Popovich, because Ownership has his back. That's whats missing in the NBA . Management having coaches back, so that ALL the players have to get with their program

Problem is he doesn't talk to every player like that when he needs to....
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2/23/2013  4:51 PM
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AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.

You do realize there is a reason Novak got cut right?

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2/23/2013  4:57 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.

You do realize there is a reason Novak got cut right?


Yes I do. I also realize the Knicks signed him anyway knowing the same thing. Instead of throwing him out there and expecting him to become a better defender overnight, they should get him some open shots or just not play him until garbage time.
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2/23/2013  4:58 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.

You do realize there is a reason Novak got cut right?

You do realize that when he got cut by the Spurs and we picked him up off waivers Grunny became anointed? Then you had legions picking up lead pipes clanking them "Run This Town" style saying he's better than Kyle Korver daring you to beg differ....my how the times change quicker than the seasons
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2/23/2013  5:02 PM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.

You do realize there is a reason Novak got cut right?

You do realize that when he got cut by the Spurs and we picked him up off waivers Grunny became anointed? Then you had legions picking up lead pipes clanking them "Run This Town" style saying he's better than Kyle Korver daring you to beg differ....my how the times change quicker than the seasons

Who was saying that? Knicks needed bodies. We have no cap space. He is on a reasonable deal and can be moved if necessary.

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2/23/2013  6:03 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Can you provide links to these posts? Something tells me you're this "Hawks Fan". Prove me wrong and provide some links...

My guess is they are from realgm. I didn't find anything that insightful. I am concerned about the hot start/not adjusting and other teams figuring his team out comment though.

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2/23/2013  6:11 PM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Greg Popovich apparently cursed out Dwight Howard at the Allstar game. Novak has been pretty useless though compared to last year.

I personally think that Woodsons putting Novak in a bad position. Hes brought here to shoot 3s and there is not effort made to get him open. We all know his defense sucks.

You do realize there is a reason Novak got cut right?

You do realize that when he got cut by the Spurs and we picked him up off waivers Grunny became anointed? Then you had legions picking up lead pipes clanking them "Run This Town" style saying he's better than Kyle Korver daring you to beg differ....my how the times change quicker than the seasons

I missed that and I spend a lot of time here. Another forum maybe?
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2/24/2013  9:50 AM
holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

This. Knicks are at top of division. Melo is an MVP and has endorsed Woodson. If you need anything else your an idiot
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2/24/2013  9:56 AM
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holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

This. Knicks are at top of division. Melo is an MVP and has endorsed Woodson. If you need anything else your an idiot

Sorry, after going all in on this roster and trading away or allowing to leave virtually every asset we had outside of Shumpert I expected us to be title contenders. By the way, Melo is not an MVP and he isn't even close to Lebron, Durant, CP3, or Tony Parker.

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2/24/2013  10:20 AM
VCoug wrote:
fishmike wrote:
holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

This. Knicks are at top of division. Melo is an MVP and has endorsed Woodson. If you need anything else your an idiot

Sorry, after going all in on this roster and trading away or allowing to leave virtually every asset we had outside of Shumpert I expected us to be title contenders. By the way, Melo is not an MVP and he isn't even close to Lebron, Durant, CP3, or Tony Parker.


Those guys are pussies
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2/24/2013  10:24 AM
fishmike wrote:
VCoug wrote:
fishmike wrote:
holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

This. Knicks are at top of division. Melo is an MVP and has endorsed Woodson. If you need anything else your an idiot

Sorry, after going all in on this roster and trading away or allowing to leave virtually every asset we had outside of Shumpert I expected us to be title contenders. By the way, Melo is not an MVP and he isn't even close to Lebron, Durant, CP3, or Tony Parker.


Those guys are pussies

OK?

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2/24/2013  10:35 AM
it's a terrible sign when the coach chews out minor players like that and not the main players. double standards. all the effort that woodson made to ingratiate himself to his favorite players prior to the season was not healthy for a team now under adversity. if you can't berate chandler, melo, stat, felton, smith then you don't have control of the team.

popovich had no qualms chewing out the greatest power forward ever on national tv. and those guys play hard every minute on the defensive end.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/24/2013  10:45 AM
VCoug wrote:
fishmike wrote:
VCoug wrote:
fishmike wrote:
holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

This. Knicks are at top of division. Melo is an MVP and has endorsed Woodson. If you need anything else your an idiot

Sorry, after going all in on this roster and trading away or allowing to leave virtually every asset we had outside of Shumpert I expected us to be title contenders. By the way, Melo is not an MVP and he isn't even close to Lebron, Durant, CP3, or Tony Parker.


Those guys are pussies

OK?

I think fishy is being sarcastic

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