GustavBahler wrote:

NYDiva wrote:Cowherd made some interesting points.

It made me think about the time I enjoyed watching Melo the most, which was during the Olympics when he played with Bron, CP3, DWill, Westbrook. It was lovely watching his game b/c I felt as if Coach K & Mike D utilized him exactly the way he SHOULD be. As pure instant offense. Let him sit on the wing while Bron & Paul create looks for him and he will destroy you. The less he has to create his shot, the more potent he is.

I think that Melo can be your go-to guy on a title team but that squad has GOT to have a heck of a playmaker on it. Not necessarily Bron/CP3-level, but somewhere in the realm of Jrue Holiday. A strong 2, as Cowherd said. Someone who will control the tempo of the game and make sure that the offense doesn't become stagnant. (Team stands around watching Melo dribble, dribble, dribble, then make a move.) Someone who can creates shots for Melo and take pressure off of him to create them for himself. An actual floor leader.

The only other way is if Melo goes on some kind of crazy Dirk-in-2011 tear and is an offensive juggernaut in the postseason. I tend to think that he's too inefficient for this, especially during playoff basketball when the D is that much tighter. But, w/o a really good playmaker, I think that's the only other way he could lead the Knicks to a 'chip. Going on some kind of insane tear offensively.

Remember how great his form was to start the season? Surgical precision, no wasted motion. Melo can still light it up but I don't see the same attention to detail.

It's the difference between Melo scoring within the flow of offense and allowing the PG to dictate the tempo of the game and his trying to create his own shot nearly every time down with little to no ball movement.

He's really good coming off a screen. Deadly. Why isn't that being utilized more for him? This is partly on the plays being run (or lack thereof) as well.

GustavBahler wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

NYDiva wrote:Cowherd made some interesting points.

It made me think about the time I enjoyed watching Melo the most, which was during the Olympics when he played with Bron, CP3, DWill, Westbrook. It was lovely watching his game b/c I felt as if Coach K & Mike D utilized him exactly the way he SHOULD be. As pure instant offense. Let him sit on the wing while Bron & Paul create looks for him and he will destroy you. The less he has to create his shot, the more potent he is.

I think that Melo can be your go-to guy on a title team but that squad has GOT to have a heck of a playmaker on it. Not necessarily Bron/CP3-level, but somewhere in the realm of Jrue Holiday. A strong 2, as Cowherd said. Someone who will control the tempo of the game and make sure that the offense doesn't become stagnant. (Team stands around watching Melo dribble, dribble, dribble, then make a move.) Someone who can creates shots for Melo and take pressure off of him to create them for himself. An actual floor leader.

The only other way is if Melo goes on some kind of crazy Dirk-in-2011 tear and is an offensive juggernaut in the postseason. I tend to think that he's too inefficient for this, especially during playoff basketball when the D is that much tighter. But, w/o a really good playmaker, I think that's the only other way he could lead the Knicks to a 'chip. Going on some kind of insane tear offensively.

Remember how great his form was to start the season? Surgical precision, no wasted motion. Melo can still light it up but I don't see the same attention to detail.

He was unstoppable and he was so hot in the first quarter that it freed everybody else up on offense.

Absolutely. In some ways he reminds me of Ewing only in the sense that he isn't the kind of guy who will lead by getting in a teammates face or rally the troops. When he does lead its by example.

he sets a bad example

GustavBahler wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

NYDiva wrote:Cowherd made some interesting points.

It made me think about the time I enjoyed watching Melo the most, which was during the Olympics when he played with Bron, CP3, DWill, Westbrook. It was lovely watching his game b/c I felt as if Coach K & Mike D utilized him exactly the way he SHOULD be. As pure instant offense. Let him sit on the wing while Bron & Paul create looks for him and he will destroy you. The less he has to create his shot, the more potent he is.

I think that Melo can be your go-to guy on a title team but that squad has GOT to have a heck of a playmaker on it. Not necessarily Bron/CP3-level, but somewhere in the realm of Jrue Holiday. A strong 2, as Cowherd said. Someone who will control the tempo of the game and make sure that the offense doesn't become stagnant. (Team stands around watching Melo dribble, dribble, dribble, then make a move.) Someone who can creates shots for Melo and take pressure off of him to create them for himself. An actual floor leader.

The only other way is if Melo goes on some kind of crazy Dirk-in-2011 tear and is an offensive juggernaut in the postseason. I tend to think that he's too inefficient for this, especially during playoff basketball when the D is that much tighter. But, w/o a really good playmaker, I think that's the only other way he could lead the Knicks to a 'chip. Going on some kind of insane tear offensively.

Remember how great his form was to start the season? Surgical precision, no wasted motion. Melo can still light it up but I don't see the same attention to detail.

He was unstoppable and he was so hot in the first quarter that it freed everybody else up on offense.

Absolutely. In some ways he reminds me of Ewing only in the sense that he isn't the kind of guy who will lead by getting in a teammates face or rally the troops. When he does lead its by example.

Oh, I thought Ewing was vocal when he had to be. Do you remember when Starks headbutt Miller and he was all over him? Ripped the hell out of him, deservedly so.

I don't think he felt as if he needed to get in his teammates faces on a regular basis but when it WAS needed, he did it.

Jerry Buss would never pass up Lin if Linsanity happened in L.A instead of New York.

Lin had declared that he would like to be a Knicks forever. That is dedication. That is loyalty. Last year, Woodson said "Lin isn't going anywhere."

Also, moderators on Ultimateknicks shut me down whenever I brought up the possibility that Lin would get traded at the end of the season despite the early bird contract. Look at us now.

CrushAlot wrote:

Syniko wrote:It is amazing that SAS refuses to appreciate Lin. Lin was basically a bargain basement price Point Guard and he would have gladly accepted any sort of offer Knicks gave him because he loves this city and the franchise. You basically get a future all star for next to nothing.

Jerry Buss would never pass up Lin if Linsanity happened in L.A instead of New York.

Lin passed on the USA Select Team because of his impending free agency. Hefired his long time agent and went with a big time agent to negotiate his contract. That agent when asked about Lin reupping with the Knicks said he wasn't sure in his initial interview because he didn't know the details. Lin got a great contract with a poison pill in year three when the repeater fine goes into effect and it costs teams a lot more money to be over the cap. Nothing wrong with him looking out for himself and getting his money. But he knew what he was doing. You don't fire your longtime agent and sit out of USA Select if your plan is to just re-up for any offer.

I guess we'll never know since we never offered him a contract.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Syniko wrote:It is amazing that SAS refuses to appreciate Lin. Lin was basically a bargain basement price Point Guard and he would have gladly accepted any sort of offer Knicks gave him because he loves this city and the franchise. You basically get a future all star for next to nothing.

Jerry Buss would never pass up Lin if Linsanity happened in L.A instead of New York.

Lin passed on the USA Select Team because of his impending free agency. Hefired his long time agent and went with a big time agent to negotiate his contract. That agent when asked about Lin reupping with the Knicks said he wasn't sure in his initial interview because he didn't know the details. Lin got a great contract with a poison pill in year three when the repeater fine goes into effect and it costs teams a lot more money to be over the cap. Nothing wrong with him looking out for himself and getting his money. But he knew what he was doing. You don't fire your longtime agent and sit out of USA Select if your plan is to just re-up for any offer.

he is a choirboy compared to what melo has done to the knicks.