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3/1/2013  11:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/1/2013  11:26 AM
28 regular season games remaining.

It's a really nice feeling knowing that we've won two consecutive with a chance to make it three tonight.

As of right now we're 6 1/2 games behind Miami, less than .5 ahead of Indiana, 2.0 ahead of Atlanta, 2.0 ahead of Brooklyn, 3.0 ahead of Chicago, 5 1/2 ahead of Boston and 7.0 games ahead of Milwaukee (teams such as Toronto and Philadelphia no longer deserve to be mentioned in regards to the postseason picture).

What I (still) like about our current situation, is that we control our seeding. When compared to our Knicks; Indy has two more loss, Atlanta has three more loses, Brooklyn has 4 more loses, Chicago has 5 more loses and Boston has 7 more loses.

1.) MIA: 41-14.

2.) NYK: 34-20.
3.) IND: 36-22.

4.) ATL: 33-23.
5.) BKN: 34-24.
6.) CHI: 33-25.

7.) BOS: 30-27.
8.) MIL: 28-28.

Tonight, we're in for a big time night of Eastern Conference basketball. Can't wait for 7:00.

Miami (1) vs. Memphis.
Knicks (2) @ Wizards.
Pacers (3) @ Raptors.
Hawks (4) @ Suns.
Brooklyn (5) vs. Dallas.
Boston (7) vs. Warriors.

While both the Bulls (6) and Bucks (8) have off night. One thing if for certain, take care of Washington tonight and our Knicks would then move to 3 1/2 games ahead of Chicago. Anything else would become a bonus for our Knicks moving forward (in regards to Miami, Indy, ATL, Brooklyn and/or Boston potentially losing).

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3/1/2013  11:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  12:01 PM
Not a great night, but a decent night of Knicks basketball tonight.

Although both Miami and Indiana won (even Boston won), it's nice to see our Knicks not only win, but also the fact that both the Hawks (4) and Nets (5) lost. Also earned another .5 on Chicago (6).

As of right now we're 6 1/2 games back of Miami, less than .5 ahead of Indiana, 3.0 ahead of Atlanta, 3.0 ahead of Brooklyn, 3.5 ahead of Chicago, 5 1/2 ahead of Boston and 7.5 games ahead of Milwaukee.

1.) MIA: 42-14.

2.) NYK: 35-20.
3.) IND: 37-22.

4.) ATL: 33-24.
5.) BKN: 34-25.
6.) CHI: 33-25.

7.) BOS: 31-27.
8.) MIL: 28-28.


The Eastern Conference, will once again, be at it come Sunday; although tomorrow (Saturday) is a pretty quiet night.

Brooklyn (5) @ Chicago (6).
Milwaukee (8) vs. Toronto.

I guess I'll pull for Chicago tomorrow night?

A.) A Chicago win and we're 3.0 ahead of Chicago and 3.5 ahead of Brooklyn.

B.) A Brooklyn win and we're 2.5 ahead of Brooklyn and 4.0 ahead of Chicago.

I don't want Brooklyn too close for comfort in regards to our Atlantic Division, so I guess I'll have to pull for a Chicago win tomorrow night...

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3/2/2013  8:04 AM
NYKM, who would you rather the knicks play in the first round?
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3/2/2013  2:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  3:09 PM
Nalod wrote:NYKM, who would you rather the knicks play in the first round?

I'm really not sure. I guess it depends on the situation. Who's injured? Is Rose coming back? etc, etc.

Now, the more I think about it, I guess under any situation you'd rather face the Nets when compared to Chicago. But now, if we're to finish as the two seed, I'd love for Chicago to drop down to the 8th seed while Milwaukee lands the 7th seed. That'll put Miami vs. Chicago and New York vs. Milwaukee during the first round. Or, just have Milwaukee slide to the 7th seed while Boston falls to the 8th seed. Miami vs. Boston / New York vs. Milwaukee during the first round. It's possible, especially considering the fact that Boston's only two games ahead of Milwaukee (without Rondo).

Also, since we're currently 7 1/2 games ahead of Milwaukee, now is the time that I start to pull for Milwaukee against just about any team out there (moving forward). Including tonight against Toronto. We need Milwaukee wins combined with Boston/Chicago/Brooklyn loses. We need one of either Brooklyn, Chicago or Boston to fall to the 8th seed while Milwaukee slides up the 7 seed. Miami getting Milwaukee during the first round, would in return become a summer breeze for Miami down in South Beach. Much rather see Miami fight it out against either Boston/Chicago or Brooklyn come the first round. If we're to finish as the two seed? I want Milwaukee as the 7th seed when compared to the likes of Boston/Chicago/Brooklyn.

But to be honest, I'm really not sure who to pull for in regards to Chicago/Brooklyn later on tonight. I guess it's a win/lose situation for our Knicks. Lose 1/2 a game to the winner but yet move up 1/2 a game on the loser. One thing is for certain, these next 10 games will decide a lot in regards to these postseason contending teams, along with postseason seeding's heading into our final stretch (of the regular season).

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3/2/2013  3:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2013  3:21 PM
Our Knicks will have 17 games remaining after we complete our next 10 games.

1.) MIA: @ NY / @ MIN / vs. ORL / vs. PHI / vs. Indy / vs. ATL / @ PHI / @ MIL / @ TOR / @ BOS. Of MIA's next 10 games, 4 are against teams with above .500 records. Of MIA's next 10 games, 6 are road games.

2.) NYK: vs. MIA / @ CLE / @ DET / vs. OKC / vs. Utah / @ GSW / @ DEN / @ POR / @ LAC / @ Utah. Of our next 10 games, 7 are against teams with above .500 records. Of our next 10 games, 7 are road games.

3.) IND: @ TOR / vs. CHI / vs. BOS / @ ORL / @ MIA / vs. MIN / vs. LAL / @ PHI / @ CLE / vs. ORL. Of Indy's next 10 games, 3 are against teams with above .500 records. Of Indy's next 10 games, 4 are road games.

4.) ATL: @ LAL / @ DEN / vs. PHI / @ BOS / vs. BKN / vs. DAL / vs. MIL / vs. POR / @ MIL / @ INDY. Of ATL's next 10 games, 4 are against teams with above .500 records. Of ATL's next 10 games, 5 are road games.

5.) BKN: @ CHI / @ CHA / vs. WAS / @ ATL / @ PHI / vs. NOH / vs. ATL / @ DET / @ DAL / @ LAC. Of BKN's next 10 games, 4 are against teams with above .500 records. Of BKN's next 10 games, 6 are road games.

6.) CHI: vs. BKN / @ IND / @ SAS / vs. Utah / @ LAC / @ SAC / @ GSW / vs. DEN / vs. POR / vs. IND. Of CHI's next 10 games, 8 are against teams with above .500 records. Of CHI's next 10 games, 5 are road games.

7.) BOS: @ PHI / @ IND / vs. ATL / @ OKC / @ CHA / vs. TOR / vs. CHA / vs. MIA / @ NOH / @ DAL. Out of Boston's next 10 games, 4 are against teams with above .500 records. Of Boston's next 10 games, 6 are road games.

8.) MIL: vs. TOR / vs. Utah / @ LAC / @ GSW / @ SAC / vs. DAL / @ WAS / vs. MIA / vs. ORL / vs. POR. Our of MIL's next 10 games, 4 are against teams with above .500 records. Of MIL's next 10 games, 4 are road games.

When looking at these schedules I'd have to say the Pacers have the 'easiest' schedule. The least amount of opponents with .500 records along with the least amount of away games. Who knows, maybe they'll play down to the level of their opponents. It's about to become a dog fight for the two seed. Both the Knicks and Bulls have without question, by far, the toughest situations/games during these next 10 games. The Knicks have the toughest schedule when compared to even the Bulls schedule. We have the most amount of games against teams with above .500 records and we also play the most road games of any teams listed above.

Due to this, I've decided who I'm pulling for tonight. I'm going with Chicago over Brooklyn. Chicago has a much stronger schedule when compared to Brooklyn during our next 10 games, which means I'd rather be 3.5 games ahead of Brooklyn & 3.0 ahead of Chicago when compared to 2.5 ahead of Brooklyn & 4.0 ahead of Chicago. Can't finish as a top two seed without first winning your division. Going for Chicago tonight.

I'll have plenty of nights to pull against Chicago during their next 10 games, but tonight I'm pulling for a Brooklyn loss. Looking deeper into these schedules helped me decide which team to pull against. I was previously at a dilemma due to only 1/2 a game separating these two teams.

The sleeper team of the Eastern Conference? In my eyes, has been Atlanta. Flying under the radar as the current 4 seed. 3 games back of both NY and Indy.

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3/3/2013  11:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/3/2013  12:03 PM
26 games remaining.

Very quiet night of Eastern Conference basketball last night, but with Chicago's victory over Brooklyn last night, our Knicks are now 3 1/2 games up on Brooklyn for our Atlantic division. A chance to make it 4.0 with a win over Miami.

Also nice to see Milwaukee knock off Toronto. If we're to finish as the two seed, I'd rather face a team such as Milwaukee as the 7th seed (during the first round) over the likes of Chicago/Boston/Brooklyn. Which is why I'm pulling for Milwaukee moving forward. Bucks only 1 1/2 games back of the 7th seed. Would love to see our Knicks vs. Milwaukee while Miami goes up against either Chicago, Boston or Brooklyn during the first round.

As of right now we're 6 1/2 games back of Miami, less than .5 ahead of Indiana, 3.0 ahead of Atlanta, 3.0 ahead of Chicago, 3.5 ahead of Brooklyn, 5 1/2 ahead of Boston and 7.0 games ahead of Milwaukee.

1.) MIA: 42-14.
2.) NYK: 35-20.

3.) IND: 37-22.
4.) ATL: 33-24.
5.) CHI: 34-25.
6.) BKN: 34-26.

7.) BOS: 31-27.
8.) MIL: 29-28.

Big time day/night of Eastern Conference basketball coming up. One hell of a Sunday for the basketball junkie. Only three games, but it's between the top 5 seeds of the Eastern Conference.

1:00: Knicks vs. Miami.
8:00: Indy vs. Chicago.
9:30- Atlanta @ Los Angeles Lakers.

With a Knicks win over Miami we're guaranteed thee things. 1.) Gain a full game on Miami, 2.) Gain a full game on the loser of Chicago/Indy and 3.) Go up another 1/2 a game on the likes of Brooklyn, Boston and Milwaukee.

3 dream scenarios for our Knicks today/tonight.

A.) Knicks win.
B.) Pacers loss.
C.) Atlanta loss.

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3/3/2013  11:54 PM
The trend is not in synch.

better to finish strong than start. Its been a fun season, but this was a statement game.

The King still reigns until otherwise determined.

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3/4/2013  8:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/4/2013  8:31 AM
Perspective: 5 teams with better records out west. Knicks would be the current 6th seed out there all things being equal.

We know all things are not equal.

BTW NYKM, Denver now has a better winning %.

IS that really important? No, but in your metric it should be given your postings. Its a interesting story given the fact some posters really have to rate this trade to maintain knick self esteem. More important to win "the trade" then win games? It would do Denver well to get that 4th seed from Memphis.

As an NBA fan the seedings out west are very interesting. Lakers are now .500 having gone 7-3 the last 10. After a 0-5 start and the disaster they were in if MDA can get them to the playoffs amid the turmoil and the problems they were having before he stepped in, I'd say he would have had a very good season. Lakers were a mess. Few coaches can turn it a mess like that around over nite. Not saying he did, but considering all involved its coming around a bit.

Who drops? GSW has fallen quite a bit to the bottom of the playoff contending teams to join the Rockets and Utah. The first 5 teams seem set.

Lakers are in the hunt and my guess is one of three falls? Rockets bench is thin, Utah seems to have nice pieces and GSW seems to have hit the wall. Nalod not in the "Prediction" game. The trend says "GSW" but you never know until all the games are played.

I'd like to see the Lakers make it. If they do they are on paper a dangerous first round opponent as an 8th seed.

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3/4/2013  9:18 AM
Let's have a big hand for the Nuggets, they're back to playing .600 ball consistently only three seasons after dumping Melo!

Big boost for the self-esteem and righteousness of those who continue to need to justify the hate for a three year old trade (yes, I'm rounding up for effect)! Lumping! I'm lumping!

Short term goal: Can we go 3-1 over the next four, before the west coast trip from hell? I'm hoping!
Only redeeming value is that the scheduling genius didn't fit the Lakers and Spurs into that trip too.

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3/4/2013  10:22 AM
jrodmc wrote:Let's have a big hand for the Nuggets, they're back to playing .600 ball consistently only three seasons after dumping Melo!

Big boost for the self-esteem and righteousness of those who continue to need to justify the hate for a three year old trade (yes, I'm rounding up for effect)! Lumping! I'm lumping!

Short term goal: Can we go 3-1 over the next four, before the west coast trip from hell? I'm hoping!
Only redeeming value is that the scheduling genius didn't fit the Lakers and Spurs into that trip too.

We talknig playoffs and positions around the league. My guess is Denvers record since the trade is unchanged than when they had Melo and better than the knicks.

My official position is consistant, you can compare but there are so many other reasons for it besides Melo/Gallo but it is what it is.

THis is NYKM's playoff thread so I bring it up. Bring up the knicks would be 6th seed in the west as of right now as indicater that the east is weaker and we have the 8th best record in the league. While its a great season for the knicks given thelast 10+ years it is what it is. Some posters would have you believe we are contending. After a 6-0 start its been good, but not great.

Its lumpy.

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3/4/2013  10:23 AM
overall...as long as were in the #2 or #3 seed im ok...i hope we play boston or milw in the 1st rd since theyre beatable...then i hope we play BKN in the 2nd rd (if they pull off an upset)
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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3/4/2013  10:28 AM
callmened wrote:overall...as long as were in the #2 or #3 seed im ok...i hope we play boston or milw in the 1st rd since theyre beatable...then i hope we play BKN in the 2nd rd (if they pull off an upset)

No doubt, we need to finish first to insure top 4 seed, and play well to advance past the 1st round.

Personally I'd like to face Boston and retire them for the season. I'd also like to see a Matchup with BKN the later the better!

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3/4/2013  10:35 AM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Let's have a big hand for the Nuggets, they're back to playing .600 ball consistently only three seasons after dumping Melo!

Big boost for the self-esteem and righteousness of those who continue to need to justify the hate for a three year old trade (yes, I'm rounding up for effect)! Lumping! I'm lumping!

Short term goal: Can we go 3-1 over the next four, before the west coast trip from hell? I'm hoping!
Only redeeming value is that the scheduling genius didn't fit the Lakers and Spurs into that trip too.

We talknig playoffs and positions around the league. My guess is Denvers record since the trade is unchanged than when they had Melo and better than the knicks.

My official position is consistant, you can compare but there are so many other reasons for it besides Melo/Gallo but it is what it is.

THis is NYKM's playoff thread so I bring it up. Bring up the knicks would be 6th seed in the west as of right now as indicater that the east is weaker and we have the 8th best record in the league. While its a great season for the knicks given thelast 10+ years it is what it is. Some posters would have you believe we are contending. After a 6-0 start its been good, but not great.

Its lumpy.

Top ten in the league is not contending? What is contending? Is there a hard and fast line drawn between contention and posters believing fables? What is it? Top 4 is contending and everyone else is a shot in the dark pretending to be real? Some posters would have you believe Indiana, Houston and Chicago are in contention. The Knicks are in the scussion, right? Or wrong?

I bring up the mention of Denver's record only because percentages don't lie. Your guess is wrong, Denver's overall record is worse without Melo, which is why I mentioned that. They are now back to where they were pre trade.

Pre the trade, just about anyone was better than the Knicks. See how the other side of the equation works? It may not be fresh or new, but it's been my consistent take on the topic as well.

Who mentioned the white guy? Lumpy indeed.

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3/4/2013  10:44 AM

For the record, I don't think Denvah is a contendah.

Or the Rockets, or GSW, or most in top ten. Granted, any of the 16 playoff teams can make a run as nobody plays everyone in the playoffs and matchups/injuries can make a big impact! Lakers have not shown they are of true caliber to make a big run but if they make the playoffs im going to assume they did a hell of a job finishing the season and thus playing good ball.

Knicks are not playing that kind of ball and have not for a while.

Any team that plays .600 the year can contend.

Maybe I was being not being generous enough with whom I spread my contending magic dust on.

After Miami the east is wide open.

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3/4/2013  5:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/4/2013  5:10 PM
This thread has been about our Eastern Conference playoff watch since the day I started it.

Funny how Nalod decides to start talking "Western Conference basketball" as soon as the Knicks lose against Miami. More like the very instant. I can read between the lines, it also took him 56 games to point out how Denver has a better record when compared to our Knicks. Funny how that works. That can change with a Knicks win along with an ATL victory over Denver tonight.

Also, what's Houston's record against Miami? 0-2. What's Denver's record against Miami? 0-2. What's OKC's record against Miami? 0-2. San Antonio's record against Miami? 0-1. Our Knicks on the other hand, are 2-1 while competing against Miami 3/3 times. A +/- differential of +34.

Spin that every which way you like. You wanna talk about Western Conference postseason races Nalod? Fine, create a thread about it. This is a New York Knicks fan forum along with a thread created in order to discuss Eastern Conference postseason seeding's and/or Eastern Conference postseason watches. We deserve that opportunity in order to do so.

You wanna harp all over our Knicks? Fine, there are 50 other threads to do so in. This isn't the one. From here on out, in regards to this thread, I will ignore everything you have to say while watching how hard you troll at the same time. Once an antagonizer can no longer antagonize, he in return then becomes antagonized. That's the approach that I'll have with you during this thread. While watching how much it pisses you off.

This thread is about our Eastern Conference postseason seeding's. Along with games that have an effect on our top 8 seeds. Nothing more, nothing less. With all that said, my next post below will get this thread back on track. Go create yourself a Western Conference postseason watch thread will ya.

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3/4/2013  5:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/4/2013  5:07 PM
25 games remaining.

As of right now we're 7 1/2 games back of Miami and less than 1.0 behind of Indiana. We're 3.0 ahead of Atlanta, 3.0 ahead of Chicago, 3.0 ahead of Brooklyn, 5.0 ahead of Boston and 6.5 games ahead of Milwaukee.

1.) MIA: 43-14.

2.) IND: 38-22.
3.) NYK: 35-21.
4.) ATL: 33-25.

5.) CHI: 34-26.
6.) BKN: 34-26.
7.) BOS: 31-27.

8.) MIL: 29-28.

After our loss against Miami last night, (as a fan) I've given up hope on a one seed. 7 1/2 games back with only 25 games remaining is unrealistic in regards to catching Miami. Which is o.k. I'll still pull against Miami for the sake of doing so, but all my focus has been shifted to fighting for a potential two seed. During the offseason I predicted a top two seed for our Knicks of 2012-2013, and we may not land a one seed, but I'll become thrilled to enter the postseason as a two seed along with home court advantage during our first (two) postseason series. Entering the playoffs as a one/two seed is something in which we haven't seen as a fan base and/or haven't done as a franchise dating back to 1993-1994. 19 years and counting. Went in as a two seed. Those Knicks found themselves against the Houston Rockets during the NBA Finals.

Last night the stars didn't align for our Knicks. Not only did we lose to Miami, but Indy also knocked off Chicago by 5 points. Only good came from Atlanta losing.

Tonight, we have a chance to respond here in the Eastern Conference.

Miami @ Minnesota.
New York @ Cleveland.
Atlanta @ Denver.
Milwaukee vs. Utah.

A win against Cleveland and we're 4-1 during our previous 5 games. A win tonight puts us 3.5 ahead of Chicago, 3.5 ahead of Brooklyn and 5.5 ahead of Boston. A win also puts us less than 1/2 a game behind Indy.

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3/5/2013  2:03 AM
As of right now we're 7 1/2 games back of Miami and less than .5 behind of Indiana. We're 3.5 ahead of Chicago, 3.5 ahead of Brooklyn, 4.0 ahead of Atlanta, 5.5 ahead of Boston and 6.5 games ahead of Milwaukee.

1.) MIA: 43-14.

2.) IND: 38-22.
3.) NYK: 36-21.
4.) CHI: 34-26.

5.) BKN: 34-26.
6.) ATL: 33-26.
7.) BOS: 31-27.

8.) MIL: 30-28.

Other than Melo currently being hurt, last night was a great night of Knicks basketball. We not only responded after a tough Miami loss, but we also recovered from being down 22 points without our star player. As a team we showed a lot of effort, heart, pride and fight in order to recover for a much needed victory (on the road).

Miami won, our Knicks won and Atlanta lost. We gained a 1/2 game on Indy, Chicago, Brooklyn, Boston and gained a full game on Atlanta.

The Milwaukee Bucks knocking off the Jazz in overtime is a good thing for our Knicks moving forward. If we're to finish as the two seed, we want Milwaukee as our 7th seed opponent (over the likes of Chicago with possibly Rose, Brooklyn and Boston) a team in which we're currently 2-0 against. Don't look now, but Milwaukee's only 1.0 away from becoming the 7th seed.

What's weird, is we're currently the 3rd seed with Atlanta being the 6th seed. We're 1-0 against Atlanta and can without question dominate them during a seven game series. But a 3 vs. 6 isn't what I want as a Knicks fan. A potential 2 vs. 7 is ideal. Especially if Milwaukee's the 7th seed.

We'll be back at it come Wednesday night, but tomorrow is a slow night of Eastern Conference basketball.

Boston @ Philly. That's all.

I'll be pulling for Philly for one of two reasons. A.) So our Knicks become 6.0 ahead of Boston and B.) So Milwaukee moves to only 1/2 a game behind Boston for that 7th seed. Let Miami deal with the likes of Pierce and Garnett come the first round.

Come Wednesday it's on for the Eastern Conference. As you can see below, all top 8 seeds are playing.

Miami @ Orlando.
Pacers vs. Celtics.
New York @ Detroit.
Chicago @ San Antonio.
Brooklyn @ Charlotte.
Hawks vs. 76ers.
Milwaukee @ LAC.

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3/5/2013  2:34 AM
NYKMentality wrote:This thread has been about our Eastern Conference playoff watch since the day I started it.

Funny how Nalod decides to start talking "Western Conference basketball" as soon as the Knicks lose against Miami. More like the very instant. I can read between the lines, it also took him 56 games to point out how Denver has a better record when compared to our Knicks. Funny how that works. That can change with a Knicks win along with an ATL victory over Denver tonight.

Also, what's Houston's record against Miami? 0-2. What's Denver's record against Miami? 0-2. What's OKC's record against Miami? 0-2. San Antonio's record against Miami? 0-1. Our Knicks on the other hand, are 2-1 while competing against Miami 3/3 times. A +/- differential of +34.

Spin that every which way you like. You wanna talk about Western Conference postseason races Nalod? Fine, create a thread about it. This is a New York Knicks fan forum along with a thread created in order to discuss Eastern Conference postseason seeding's and/or Eastern Conference postseason watches. We deserve that opportunity in order to do so.

You wanna harp all over our Knicks? Fine, there are 50 other threads to do so in. This isn't the one. From here on out, in regards to this thread, I will ignore everything you have to say while watching how hard you troll at the same time. Once an antagonizer can no longer antagonize, he in return then becomes antagonized. That's the approach that I'll have with you during this thread. While watching how much it pisses you off.

This thread is about our Eastern Conference postseason seeding's. Along with games that have an effect on our top 8 seeds. Nothing more, nothing less. With all that said, my next post below will get this thread back on track. Go create yourself a Western Conference postseason watch thread will ya.

You never mentioned it was about the eastern conf. Just playoffs.

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