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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
2/5/2013 8:04 PM LAST EDITED: 2/5/2013 8:07 PM
NYKMentality wrote:tkf wrote:Honestly, I think sprewell was a better player.. but that is just me.. so I don't see thing quite the way you do.. carmelo may not get much support because people don't view him with such high regards.. just look at the pro's and cons list... even with most on here being carmelo fans, the cons seem to outweigh the pro's... so it shouldn't be s surprise why there may be such a divide when it comes to this dude..
Also, Carmelo may not get much support? You've got to be kidding me. He's loved like never before if that is the case then why the constant complaints about those who do not like him as a player? according to you we are in the minority by far.. so again, why do you consistently raise your blood pressure trying to defend someone who is so loved according to you? Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
2/5/2013 8:19 PM LAST EDITED: 2/5/2013 8:21 PM
tkf wrote:NYKMentality wrote:tkf wrote:Honestly, I think sprewell was a better player.. but that is just me.. so I don't see thing quite the way you do.. carmelo may not get much support because people don't view him with such high regards.. just look at the pro's and cons list... even with most on here being carmelo fans, the cons seem to outweigh the pro's... so it shouldn't be s surprise why there may be such a divide when it comes to this dude.. O.K. And Carmelo Anthony has led his teams to the postseason each and every season along with a trip to the Western Conference Finals during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference. Stop trying to ignore the fact that Sprewell was in the league for 13 seasons along with only 5 postseason appearances while failing to lead his team(s) to the postseason during 8 of those 13 years. Sprewell didn't "lead the Knicks" to the Finals either. He joined a great franchise. Key word being 'joined'. That team was only 27-23 during the regular season. Not only was the Eastern Conference becoming a laughing stock joke during the shortened season but we had guys outside of Sprewell such as Houston, Ewing, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas, Ward, Camby, Childs and even Dudley. Houston and Ewing led our team in scoring. Ewing, Kurt, L.J, Camby and Dudley led us in rebounds. Ewing and Camby led us in blocks. Ward led us in Steals. Ward, Childs, Houston and L.J led us in assists. Camby, Herm, Kurt, L.J, Dudley, Wingate, Ewing, Childs and Houston led us in FG%. H20, Ewing and LJ led us in minutes per game. Sprewell being a better basketball player when compared to Melo is a joke. Sprewell "leading us" is even more of a laughing stock joke and/or bold face lie. |
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
2/5/2013 9:40 PM LAST EDITED: 2/5/2013 9:41 PM
Pros:
A franchise Player. Top 5 NBA talent. An offensive force. Perfect form on his jump shots. Greatest Knick since Patrick Ewing. Amazing combo of size, quickness and strength. Always dreamed of playing in M.S.G as a kid with New York Bloodline in which forced his way our of Denver in order to play for and/or lead our New York Knicks moving forward. Nothing short of a pure scoring phenom. Ranks 2nd amongst all NBA players in scoring, only behind the great Kevin Durant and ahead of the likes of Kobe and LeBron. Can play out of position while still dominating opposing players and/or games. A true team player who's willing to bang down low against much larger BIG's due to multiple team injuries. Respected by his teammates. Kidd, Felton, J.R, Shumpert, Stoudemire, Chandler, Novak etc, etc all respect Melo as both a team leader and as a man. Won't back down from the likes of K.G as most NBA cowards do. Stronger than most SF's and quicker/more explosive than most PF's. One of the best rebounders in the game today in regards to natural SF's. Has been in the league for 9 years & on the verge of leading his teams to the postseason during each and every season. Led Denver to the Western Conference Finals during the elite/golden years of the Western Conference. Has gained a boat load of postseason experience over the years, against the likes dynasty teams such as Kobe and the Lakers (twice) along with Duncan and the Spurs (twice). Has led us to First Place of our Atlantic Division and less than 1/2 a game from the number one seed (during only his first full season as a Knick). Has too much pride, heart and respect for the game of basketball and will never flop his way to an NBA Championship. Something which LeBron can't say. Outside of Tyson Chandler, has been our strongest overall defensive player here in 2012-2013. Has dove into the stands, played with heart on the defensive end and more importantly, led by example. Under coach Woodson, he's playing defense like never before and when focused on defense, which he has been? Melo's one of the strongest defenders around amongst opposing SF's. Did I forget to mention our greatest overall New York Knick since Patrick Ewing? Cons: Played under a head coach in George Karl who doesn't have what it takes to lead his team(s) to an NBA championship ala been in the league for 25 years with zero NBA championships. I feel sorry for Melo, that he had to play for such a coach in which could never lead/coach his team(s) over the top. Doesn't kiss the refs ass and/or blow them off like most NBA superstars, therefor, get's very frustrated as he's getting mugged from opposing players, fouled hard, not getting the calls followed by voicing his opinion against the ref's and/or occasionally not getting back on defense ala arguing with the refs. Forces shots from time to time, do to the fact that our guards rank dead last in shooting percentage while Tyson Chandler can not create his own shots. So as a Knick, he's taken some questionable shot selections (as all pure fire scorers do). Not Rondo or Magic Johnson in regards to assists. But then again, he's only a forward not named LeBron James. His heart was never in Denver, never believed in coach Karl and in return? Didn't give his heart and soul to the defensive end of the court. His rep has followed him to N.Y although he's played with heart and pride on defensive under coach Woodson. In closing: |
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
2/5/2013 9:53 PM
knickscity wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:Melo's strength is he is one of the best players in the league, and he has no weakness that hinders his strength. you're playing games. i'm cool with that. to sum up you claim that he is one of the best players in the league with no significant weaknesses that prevent him from being one of the best players in the league. basically sound and fury signifying nothing. this melo thread is different if you allow it to be so but if you and a few others are hell bent on maintaining the status quo then that behavior says a whole lot more about you than you want it to. i stated the purpose of the thread but you insist you know the true motivation, ie to identify "contingents." connect the dots, guy. your behavior only serves to draw a line in the sand in order that you may create or galvanize contingents you despair of. as i said, you're playing games. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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