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1/10/2013  11:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2013  11:18 AM
Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker
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1/10/2013  11:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2013  11:22 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker


Yeah Melo said he wasn't worried about the Celtics as if they've done nothing worthy to earn respect and as if he's won multiple titles already. Okay Garnett gave you plenty to worry about Melo and we all saw you crumble like a cupcake when he did.

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1/10/2013  11:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2013  11:26 AM
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Let's say Melo did this to another player we were playing. Let's say Melo tells Jimmy Butler on the Bulls I'm going to Bully you all day you B(while throwing elbows all game) and if you try and resist me I'm going to Bully your whole entire family because your whole family is Bs. This is after Melo drops 50 on him because Butler nor the Bulls had an answer for him.


Okay Jimmy Butler has a trash talk thresh hold because he doesn't accept anyone disrespecting his family. So he decides to show up outside our Locker Room at the United Center after the game and attempts to meet Melo at our team bus to address him man-to-man but does nothing btw just posturing fake thug style with some other Bull players surrounding him.


All you Irrational Carmelo Loving Fans on here would feel Jimmy Butler was Flying Flaming Scrub....."who does he think he is trying to attempt to strike fear in the heart of the league MVP after the game is over getting thrashed in the game."


Garnett is the Ultimate Douche Persona Non Grata..... but Melo was complete Buffoon doing what he did no matter what Garnett said, which at this point is still unconfirmed as factual.

What Melo did wasnt ideal, but to make this act representative of him as a player is part of the Melo derangement syndrome around here. Up until this past monday, or whatever, Melo had never taken an argument off the court in his whole career --- and there were specific circumstances involved that explain why he did it. You just have an agenda to fulfill. Thats all.

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1/10/2013  11:24 AM
Oh of course, we all know the C's need bulletin board fodder to be azzholes. KG needs that prerequisite.
WTF are you talking about?

Nevermind, I have to get ready for another blow out Knicks loss tonight.

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1/10/2013  11:25 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

Its the opposite, actually. The Celtics, with their aging roster, provided the bulletin board material. KG has riled up a team, a city, and one of the best players in the world. For what? A January victory?

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1/10/2013  11:26 AM
sebstar wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

Its the opposite, actually. The Celtics, with their aging roster, provided the bulletin board material. KG has riled up a team, a city, and one of the best players in the world. For what? A January victory?

Exactly, KG and Boston blew their load early. Should've saved it for the playoffs.

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1/10/2013  11:28 AM
I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.
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1/10/2013  11:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2013  11:40 AM
jrodmc wrote:Oh of course, we all know the C's need bulletin board fodder to be azzholes. KG needs that prerequisite.
WTF are you talking about?

Nevermind, I have to get ready for another blow out Knicks loss tonight.

Actually Garnett does look for things like that for further edge did you not hear his rants from him last year...It's obvious you don't follow this sport closely...


Playing without starting point guard Rajon Rondo and sharpshooter Ray Allen, the Boston Celtics still had enough to take down a Dwight Howard-less Orlando Magic team on Wednesday, scoring a 102-98 win at the TD Garden. The victory, keyed by a dominant all-around performance by Paul Pierce (29 points on 14 shots, a career-high 14 assists with just three turnovers, five rebounds and two steals in 35 minutes), clinched Boston's fifth consecutive Atlantic Division crown, which will either give them the longest streak of divisional dominance in the NBA or, if the Los Angeles Lakers can hold off the Los Angeles Clippers in the Pacific, a tie for that mark.

That's a division title in each year Allen and Kevin Garnett have been Celtics, if you're keeping score, and Garnett's pretty proud of this one. He heard us all downplaying Boston's chances and the surefire first-ballot Hall of Famer did what he always does — turned it into motivation. When it was time to answer to a postgame question about what this division title means to the Celtics' players, he took the opportunity to revel in the moment.

"Never count us out," he answered. "I mean, you guys called us old, over.

"You know, I read some of your pathetic articles and some of your lousy analysis," Garnett continued, pausing to slowly look back and forth over the faces of each member of the media surrounding him. "It's opinion. I mean, obviously, you don't know what drive is. We thank y'all for those articles. Appreciate it. Because it lit a fire under us."

I won't presume to speak for Kelly or Eric, but I'd like to say: You're welcome, Kevin. I am glad that my pathetic articles and lousy analysis could help.

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BOSTON -- Fresh off a turn-back-the-clock performance in which he posted game-highs of 28 points and 14 rebounds, Celtics center Kevin Garnett opened his postgame news conference by firing a shot across the bow of Hawks co-owner Michael Gearon Jr. for derogatory comments he made about Garnett on Wednesday.

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Angry and feeling disrespected, Kevin Garnett stood up, put the Celtics on his back and got Boston into the second round, writes Jackie MacMullan.

Garnett's effort helped Boston top Atlanta 83-80 in Game 6 of an Eastern Conference first-round series Thursday night at TD Garden and ended the Hawks' season.

"First off, I want to say thank you to the (Hawks) owner for giving me some extra gas tonight," Garnett said. "My only advice to him is next time he opens his mouth, actually know what he's talking about -- X's and O's versus checkbooks and bottom lines."

Speaking at an event in Atlanta on Wednesday, Gearon Jr. lamented the lack of foul calls in Atlanta's favor, even on the heels of the team's Game 5 triumph that forced the series back to Boston.

"We don't get any calls, which I know everybody always hears," Gearon said. "But I'll give you a stat. Last night, we are playing this old physical team. They are old. I know what happens when you play basketball: Old guys foul. Garnett is the dirtiest guy in the league. We are playing Boston (Tuesday) night and they had two fouls the whole first half. We had five times that and we're athletic."


Garnett took umbrage with both the "old" and "dirty" parts of Gearon's comments. On the latter, Garnett noted, "We're not dirty. You have to understand the word 'dirty' in this game is very defined. Going under guys, trying to hurt guys, ill intent -- that's not how we play basketball. We play very, very respectable to the opponent, to the city we're in. We play with a lot of passion and with force. It's the playoffs. I haven't been here trying to hurt anybody and neither have my teammates. I found that comment to be a little rude and out of hand, and I wanted to address it.

"Just because you got a bunch of money doesn't mean you can open your mouth."

As for the notion of being old, KG sounded off again.

"I don't want to come off kind of wrong, but I really go with my craft and I take it very seriously," he said. "I guess being 35 -- soon to be 36, not 37, (19)76 (birth year), look it up -- I put a lot of work into my craft. I take it very seriously. I always have, since '95, since I've been able to come into the league and it's almost like you guys are shocked. Like this ain't what I do every day, like this ain't what I was made for. It does come off disrespectful at times. I put a lot of work and time into this, and there are certain levels I expect from myself. ...

"I take this very seriously, so you guys calling me old, that number defies. You have no idea what you are doing when you say those 'old' comments. I appreciate that. I don't read your columns, but it gets back to me."


Yes Garnett feeds off stuff like that.

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1/10/2013  11:31 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

Its the opposite, actually. The Celtics, with their aging roster, provided the bulletin board material. KG has riled up a team, a city, and one of the best players in the world. For what? A January victory?

They have won the past 5 atlantic division titles. They came out to prove a point. Like Popovich Doc has been limiting KG's minutes for a playoff run

Hopefully we get our revenge in April/May

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1/10/2013  11:36 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.

In an 82 game season, rough patches are inevitable unless you are a historically great team like the 96 bulls, or the 01 lakers...and they never suffered any injury setbacks. The knicks lost their starting point guard, so it stands to reason thy're gunna scuffle a bit. Bottom line is Id rather go through this in Jan, and start to peak in April/May than vice versa. Chill out.

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1/10/2013  11:44 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.

In an 82 game season, rough patches are inevitable unless you are a historically great team like the 96 bulls, or the 01 lakers...and they never suffered any injury setbacks. The knicks lost their starting point guard, so it stands to reason thy're gunna scuffle a bit. Bottom line is Id rather go through this in Jan, and start to peak in April/May than vice versa. Chill out.

While I would normally agree that it is a long season and rough patches will happen, this old team is not just battling other teams but injuries and father time as well. Pop has been managing his team due to their age. The difference is that their Big 3 is old but the 2nd tier players are young. Knicks are old and/or injured across the board. It is going to be tough.

Grunny really should have sprinkled in some 4-5 year vets with this team.

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1/10/2013  11:47 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

So were they not gonna key in on Melo before that? Does it really take some pregame comments to motivate a coach to game plan on defending the opposing team's best player?

Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.
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1/10/2013  11:51 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

So were they not gonna key in on Melo before that? Does it really take some pregame comments to motivate a coach to game plan on defending the opposing team's best player?

No but it does provide added motivation. Melo has had some great games against the Celtics. This time they were going to rough him up

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1/10/2013  11:54 AM
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sebstar wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.

In an 82 game season, rough patches are inevitable unless you are a historically great team like the 96 bulls, or the 01 lakers...and they never suffered any injury setbacks. The knicks lost their starting point guard, so it stands to reason thy're gunna scuffle a bit. Bottom line is Id rather go through this in Jan, and start to peak in April/May than vice versa. Chill out.

While I would normally agree that it is a long season and rough patches will happen, this old team is not just battling other teams but injuries and father time as well. Pop has been managing his team due to their age. The difference is that their Big 3 is old but the 2nd tier players are young. Knicks are old and/or injured across the board. It is going to be tough.

Grunny really should have sprinkled in some 4-5 year vets with this team.

Outside of kidd, who are these old guys that we're going to be counting on?

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1/10/2013  11:55 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:Also what seems to have been forgotten is that before the game Melo provided Boston with perfect bulletin board fodder. You can rest assure Doc made sure his players were aware and had them key in on Melo. Melo gets frustrated & has awful 6-26 game and KG mouths off in his own little deranged way and Melo took the bait, hook-line-and-sinker

So were they not gonna key in on Melo before that? Does it really take some pregame comments to motivate a coach to game plan on defending the opposing team's best player?

No but it does provide added motivation. Melo has had some great games against the Celtics. This time they were going to rough him up

The only one who got physical with him was KG and all I've been hearing the past 2 days was "KG does this to everyone and Melo knew this". Now you're saying that KG only did what he did because of Melo's pregame comments? Which one is it?

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1/10/2013  11:59 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.

In an 82 game season, rough patches are inevitable unless you are a historically great team like the 96 bulls, or the 01 lakers...and they never suffered any injury setbacks. The knicks lost their starting point guard, so it stands to reason thy're gunna scuffle a bit. Bottom line is Id rather go through this in Jan, and start to peak in April/May than vice versa. Chill out.

While I would normally agree that it is a long season and rough patches will happen, this old team is not just battling other teams but injuries and father time as well. Pop has been managing his team due to their age. The difference is that their Big 3 is old but the 2nd tier players are young. Knicks are old and/or injured across the board. It is going to be tough.

Grunny really should have sprinkled in some 4-5 year vets with this team.

Outside of kidd, who are these old guys that we're going to be counting on?

Camby, Sheed, Pablo

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1/10/2013  12:03 PM
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sebstar wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I don't have an agenda. Maybe some do I don't know. I just know it stinks that this whole thing cost the Knicks 2 games. 23-12 and heading towards the middle of the pack. The storybook start we got off to, best team since 69-70, 72-73, 93-94 seems like a distant memory.

In an 82 game season, rough patches are inevitable unless you are a historically great team like the 96 bulls, or the 01 lakers...and they never suffered any injury setbacks. The knicks lost their starting point guard, so it stands to reason thy're gunna scuffle a bit. Bottom line is Id rather go through this in Jan, and start to peak in April/May than vice versa. Chill out.

While I would normally agree that it is a long season and rough patches will happen, this old team is not just battling other teams but injuries and father time as well. Pop has been managing his team due to their age. The difference is that their Big 3 is old but the 2nd tier players are young. Knicks are old and/or injured across the board. It is going to be tough.

Grunny really should have sprinkled in some 4-5 year vets with this team.

We traded all those guys away along with picks to get what we have now. If it works this year than GREAT if not then I'm not sure where we go from here with guys retiring with Melo and Amare and a 2yr window

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1/10/2013  12:08 PM
gunsnewing wrote:We traded all those guys away along with picks to get what we have now. If it works this year than GREAT if not then I'm not sure where we go from here with guys retiring with Melo and Amare and a 2yr window

Yeah, I hear ya. Walsh traded Lee, Crawford, Zach away for nothing, and traded two first round picks to position us for Lebron which didnt happen. Thats a lot of talent and assets there. What can we do about it now?

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1/10/2013  12:10 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Camby, Sheed, Pablo

Pablo will be fine, but Camby n sheed are cause for concern....Eh, hope for the best.

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1/10/2013  12:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2013  12:25 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:We traded all those guys away along with picks to get what we have now. If it works this year than GREAT if not then I'm not sure where we go from here with guys retiring with Melo and Amare and a 2yr window

Yeah, I hear ya. Walsh traded Lee, Crawford, Zach away for nothing, and traded two first round picks to position us for Lebron which didnt happen. Thats a lot of talent and assets there. What can we do about it now?


Hope we win it all this year. Our best chance to win in the Melo and Amare era. If not just dig ourselves in a hole and cry for the next 2 1/2yrs.

Scary thing is after Amare expires Dolan won't rebuild the right way and we will likely go back to another decade of losing like during the Layden/Isiah yrs

and chances are we lose JR Smith

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