NYKMentality wrote:It seems as if only the posters with a guilty conscience are the one's who've attemped to mock me during this thread while resorting to posting with sarcastic remarks. When the truth hurts, the'll then attempt to derail these types of threads while trolling at the same time. It's what they do best; it's in their post count. Bonn1997 is the perfect example. He joins this thread only to provide us with a one line filler used in order to derail a posters thought's such as "Can you elaborate on that"? Well, I will elaborate. These types of one line fillers (from Bonn1997) are only used to antagonize, troll and/or derail a thread such as this one. It's actually something that happens very often around here. Same goes for Nalod and his sarcastic remarks and/or post's about Christmas, Santa, the Easter Bunny, the North Pole, mentioning Melo's name in a sarcastic light and/or mocking type of way etc, etc. Everything and anything opposite of what this thread was actually created for. No one asked for their negativity and/or for them to chime in with guilty conscience types of sarcastic remarks. But, they couldn't hold back. I'll cut it down with some cliff notes for those who can read between the lines. I'll "elaborate".
We'ere spending so much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable, negative, 24/7 types of naysaying critics when instead, we could be enjoying one of the greatest starts to a single season our fan base has ever seen. As some of you can tell, just mentioning the fact that we're spending too much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable negative critics gets their panties in a bunch. These types of sports fans won't be satisfied as a person until we win a championship and/or until ex Knicks "win a championship" in order to show us "just how right" they really were.
It's sad when you can't post about the greatest Knick since Ewing having a potentially MVP type of season without being called out due to "LeBron and Durant" and/or considered a "circle jerk party" when talking up a currently outstanding season in regards to Melo himself leading our Knicks. 20-7 overall. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball.
These naysaying critics? A grain of salt when looking at the grand scheme of things. We're true Eastern Conference Contenders for the first time dating back to the 1990's. Our deepest team maybe of all-time in regards to overall talent and depth from top to bottom. Our fan base has only seen four Atlantic Division crowns. I've only seen two during the 90's. Even with Ewing, we were not winning the Atlantic. As of right now we're 5/12 games up on Brooklyn and could very well be on the verge of witnessing something in which has only happened at a clip of once every 16.5 years; An Atlantic Division Banner hanging from the rafters. Don't tell that to these negative critics though.
I'm enjoying a certain type of feeling that I haven't had since childhood days in regards to our Knicks. The same feelings I had with Ewing? It's now with Melo and these Knicks. These negative critics can't handle this truth. It upsets them to know that Melo's the greatest all-around Knick since Patrick Ewing. These types of threads get under their skin. They can't stand the fact that heading into these games, that thousands upon thousands of Knick fans (such as myself) can't stop thinking about and/or wondering what Melo's on the verge of doing next. Last night struggled all night (as all the great ones do) before exploding out of no where for 19 fourt quarter points against not only a Wolves opponent but also against the refs.
As a fan base, we welcomed Melo with open arms as well. In numbers too. Remember his first Knicks intro? Why did the heart and soul of our fan base welcome Carmelo Anthony with open eyes? Because our fan base not only knew, but we also had an understanding that we were on the verge of landing the greatest Knick since Patrick Ewing himself. Madison Square Garden and the Knicks faithful have Melo's back with 100% support. Melo's at the free throw linelast night with under two minutes to go, and what do we hear out of the Mecca? We hear chants of MVP. MVP. MVP. Chants of MVP for our greatest Knick since #33 of his prime years. But yet, we can't enjoy his performance in which has been MVP worthy due to the fact that these nay-saying critics 'say so'? They'll bring up LeBron and Durtant as a way of harping all over our top 5 NBA all-world talent.
We see threads such as "Losing is acceptable to the Knicks". If losing is "acceptable" then please explain why we've lost two consecutive (back to back) games only once this season. 88-76 vs the Pacers. 121-100 vs the Pistons. 102-88 @ the Bucks. 112-106 vs the Nuggets. 100-86 vs the Nets. 94-91 vs Minny. All coming off loses. 20-7 overall. It seems as if our Knicks actually respond strong as ever coming off of loses. Don't let the fact's get in the way of these types of topics though. Kidd. Melo. Chandler. Rasheed. Camby and Kurt Thomas have all accepted losing? I'm sure guys such as Pablo, J.R Smith, Novak and Brewer "accept losing" as well?
20-7. One of the greatest starts to a season we've ever seen. Enjoying our greatest Knick talent since Ewing himself in Carmelo Anthony. 12-2 home record. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball. The deepest Knicks team some of us have ever seen dating back to the early 1990's. On the verge of enjoying a Christmas day matchup against a storied franchise such as the Lakers. It's Los Angeles vs New York. We've returned to the spot light.
They only have one choice. To deal with it.
RonRon move over. And out.
At 21-9 I thought this might be worth responding to. For no particular reason.
This is the never ending discussion against competing worldviews. Opinions are based on worldviews. No one's maintaining (at least from what I can glean from these NYKMentality novels) that you can't have an opposing opinion to devout homerism, I think the key here is that Somberites hold onto their opinions in the face of the current evidence, or even into the teeth of the evidence we are currently faced with.
The few deranged haters aside, Melo is a legitimate beast. He's morphed into something here in Goatland that goes well beyond the AI mold of killing and maiming through points alone. He is making others better even when he doesn't play, by forcing others to step up and fill the hole. And they are acknowledging that fact, before and afterwards, and are filling it. Tyson Chandler scoring 20 ppg? Hello? Novak and Cope looking like someone just shot their dogs after a last second loss to the....SacBees??? (I won't even start about JR because he's practically a UK board unto himself at this point.) Is it just fablism to think and notice that in regular seasons in the not too distant past, no Knicks would have given two shits about a loss like this one? You would have seen the stoic trot off the court quickly and get to the dayum hotel as per usual.
We have YouTube Melo. I'm certain there would have been a YouTube Spree, a YouTube Patrick, a BK Tube. I don't have the time or ambition to go back and search for them. Melo doesn't have the track record. Yet. But to pooh pooh the homerism as premature ejaculates after what we have so far is truly unfair to the facts. [Insert Mr .470 factoids here for rebuttal.] The man's scoring during individual quarters like a crazed unstoppable smiling machine and epitomizing the "climb aboard fellas, it's going to be a bumpy ride" got the team on his back entry in the dictionary.
We've discussed the worldview differences in other threads. The NY cool says hate is in. Keep that simmering anger against mom's apple pie cooking at all costs. Never go John Sterling over anything. Spike may jump up and down and look like a 2nd grader off his ritalin during games, but he's still stoic in the interviews. Stone cold. Spike don't get all gooey and teary-eyed, or at least I've never seen that yet. [Insert youtube links by playa2, showing Spike in the tunnel crying over spilled Pepsi on his Novak jersey]
We hear incessantly that the games tell the story. Well the story is in: 21-9. We have yet to have a three game losing streak. We barely ever appear on the back page for trials and off court tribulations. For the love of G&W, we haven't even seen a Dolan hate thread in what seems like months!
You can have your hate, or your factoid-derived/results-only realism or whatever you want to call it to legitimize and optimize your worldview. Wallpaper over your beliefs with whatever flavor of statistics you can find.
Just realize that if we were just a few games over .500, had been promptly destroyed by the Heat twice, you'd have a lot more credibility to your worldview.
They found out the universe did have a beginning. Some day they may find the ark; either one of them. That may have to change the way you look at the world. But that won't be such a bad thing, will it?
Just sayin.