joec32033 wrote:
Really?

Maybe you just don't understand? My origional post had nothing to do with his basketball acumen.

No, I understand your post fully. Read your title. This is a forum about basketball. It bleeds you work for Jimmy Dolan. Sorry I went off on you, but seriously, Jimmy Dolan is one of the worst sports owner in history, ask any expert that knows Jimmy Dolan's history, seriously. I don't mind others trying to justify Jimmy Dolan's moves or what not and we can all debate about it, but putting it in your title as if he's a saint, is just down right wrong. I had to go off on that because if others, and I know a few of you guys adore Jimmy Dolan, got encouraged to post more of that crap on new topics, then it's really over, and someone, if not me, will really get ticked off. Just trying to stop what you're practicing. Yes, what he did for charity was good, but he got all his money from his dad, and he wastes money like no tomorrow. Do you really think he poured his heart out and spent lots of time organizing this? He's too busy making MSG money. There's nothing great about a filthy rich never-had-to-earn-his-money-from-get-go (he started as a musician/actor wannabe) putting his small check to charity to make himself look 'good'. It is all publicity because he has horrible ones as an owner.

It's very personal to me because I despise him for wasting my own money and wasting my own time defending the team I adored since 4 years old to others here in Los Angeles (don't live in NY anymore). If you just titled "Thanks Jimmy Dolan for making this charity happen", then it's no big deal. But you didn't, and your context has nothing to do with basketball which makes it even worse. I hope you understand why some of us Knicks fans will take that as an insult, or the least, irritated by your post/title. That's all. We all are passionate bloody Knicks fans, but let's be considerate and not assume everything's alright. I still believe you're doing this on purpose to make Jimmy Dolan look good while working for his organization somewhere, but that's just my theory.

And for all you other fans, I don't think I'm entitled to anything. I'm just a Knicks fan taking this game too seriously since 4 years old. I just want to see my team win championship once before I die. Jimmy Dolan made sure it won't happen in his own hands. That's why sooooooo many experts REFUSE to come coach/play for Knicks under Jimmy, and will only do so for the money. See the trend of past 12 years? That's all it is (H20, etc). This year was all pure luck and if Dolan deserved any credit, it's that he hired Grunwald, but I don't know if it really was his work or some other influences, but giving him benefit of the doubt, he hired the right man that did a good job fixing our team with what little he was handed.

JamesLin wrote:

joec32033 wrote:
Really?

Maybe you just don't understand? My origional post had nothing to do with his basketball acumen.

No, I understand your post fully. Read your title. This is a forum about basketball. It bleeds you work for Jimmy Dolan. Sorry I went off on you, but seriously, Jimmy Dolan is one of the worst sports owner in history, ask any expert that knows Jimmy Dolan's history, seriously. I don't mind others trying to justify Jimmy Dolan's moves or what not and we can all debate about it, but putting it in your title as if he's a saint, is just down right wrong. I had to go off on that because if others, and I know a few of you guys adore Jimmy Dolan, got encouraged to post more of that crap on new topics, then it's really over, and someone, if not me, will really get ticked off. Just trying to stop what you're practicing. Yes, what he did for charity was good, but he got all his money from his dad, and he wastes money like no tomorrow. Do you really think he poured his heart out and spent lots of time organizing this? He's too busy making MSG money. There's nothing great about a filthy rich never-had-to-earn-his-money-from-get-go (he started as a musician/actor wannabe) putting his small check to charity to make himself look 'good'. It is all publicity because he has horrible ones as an owner.

It's very personal to me because I despise him for wasting my own money and wasting my own time defending the team I adored since 4 years old to others here in Los Angeles (don't live in NY anymore). If you just titled "Thanks Jimmy Dolan for making this charity happen", then it's no big deal. But you didn't, and your context has nothing to do with basketball which makes it even worse. I hope you understand why some of us Knicks fans will take that as an insult, or the least, irritated by your post/title. That's all. We all are passionate bloody Knicks fans, but let's be considerate and not assume everything's alright. I still believe you're doing this on purpose to make Jimmy Dolan look good while working for his organization somewhere, but that's just my theory.

And for all you other fans, I don't think I'm entitled to anything. I'm just a Knicks fan taking this game too seriously since 4 years old. I just want to see my team win championship once before I die. Jimmy Dolan made sure it won't happen in his own hands. That's why sooooooo many experts REFUSE to come coach/play for Knicks under Jimmy, and will only do so for the money. See the trend of past 12 years? That's all it is (H20, etc). This year was all pure luck and if Dolan deserved any credit, it's that he hired Grunwald, but I don't know if it really was his work or some other influences, but giving him benefit of the doubt, he hired the right man that did a good job fixing our team with what little he was handed.

Wow. So many words. So little relevance. You just keep defending your position. It's still real to you damnit!!

JamesLin wrote:

joec32033 wrote:
Wow. So many words. So little relevance. You just keep defending your position. It's still real to you damnit!!

Ok, last post. God you're ignorant. Defending my position? Last one I wrote is to explain why I'm really ticked off at you and why you might have insulted/irritated others like me. You don't get it apparently. Relevance? I'll give it straight to you:

You are using your post title and your post to NEGATE Jimmy Dolan as a horrible owner (person even) by praising and sucking him by saying he did such a wonder "arranging" a concert for the disaster. He's a musician wannabe, so he loves to do that, not an effort and besides, it's almost all the other people listed there doing the job. He's filthy rich thanks to his dad so again, not much money lost for him at all. Is that relevant to you now? Do you wanna thank Jimmy Dolan again in the name of the horrible disaster? Are you done playing the innocent one? I don't care what else you wrote, and yes I'm a bit more aggressive than most posters here and I apologize they have to continue to read this stupid title, but hell, I am sure not gonna let you get away with this without voicing my opinion. I'm done, no more post for me. joec32033 is officially in my book an ignorant fool who likes to manipulate and pretend to be innocent.

Just in case, that you're not manipulative and pretentious as I listed above, and you really are just plain stupid legally,

Your title:
Mr. Dolan, for all the crap you get, Thank You. (he gets crap he DESERVED, and not because he got targeted for nothing, you don't thank him for taking all that crap unless you're about to bend over for him, then I totally understand because I've read up on what a submissive is)

You said, and I quote: "The Knicks family was well-represented at Wednesday’s Sandy “superconcert’’ at the Garden, which was arranged by owner James Dolan". You had it in BOLD PRINT, why? Really, you wanna stress he did ALL the wonderful work as an owner? There was a huge list of people working on it, and you think he did it by making that sentence BOLD?

Hope you get it now. Don't need to apologize or defend yourself anymore because I'm not responding/repeating myself anymore in this thread that nobody else need to suffer again. Go read some book and learn sincerity or intelligence. Nothing wrong with being stupid, but there's something very evil about being manipulative like your title.

Lin you just dont understand do you? And dont tell us your not reading this. Us NYERS give credit where credit is due. Joec,you did the right thing. And to Martin and Andrew, isnt lins post baiting and name calling? Just asking.