fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:hey Knicksnot? Why the early attacks? Guys working hard to rehab and your attacking his defense and everything else. I think Im going to vent my frustration by trashing Melo.

Wow. What a surprising change of events! So out of character for the fishman

go find me a post where I trash him. Go fetch boy!

FYI: "Melo isnt MVP" doesnt not = trashing

Happy searching!

Arf Arf! Too easy. Almost. Although your trashing is not of the outright tkf "he maimed and killed my dog and mailed it's lifeless head to my children for Christmas" variety. Still....

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:i like the karmic implications of this hire. d'antoni really was a good soldier and professional while here and essentially got shafted (along with walsh) by dolan.

regardless of how you feel about his coaching, he never had the type of squad that was reflective of his ethos in new york. now in los angeles he finally does.

this.. I love how the dude made Chris Duhon look like a stud and people cried because the Knicks didnt defend. Highlarious. People will quickly see the problem was never MDA, it was the Knicks and their players. Of course they were playing pretty well until a certain trade happened, but water under the bridge. After the donkees we had here MDA was refreshing and he will do a great job with the Lakers.

fishmike wrote:If its stupid why not just ignore it?
not huslting and having coaching problems is part of his history, but Im sure this year is different. Thats the great thing Ive learned about having Melo on your team. Every new year is THE year he's going to not quit, or win a playoff game, or win a playoff series, or come into shape. Melo = hope springs eternal.

Why is the best player on a 5-0 team (best in the league) taking off possessions and giving up uncontested dunks because he's too busy worried about getting calls on forced shots against a triple team? Stupid indeed.

fishmike wrote:you cant make this up. I put the game on right before halftime last night. Melo pounds the rock, forces a shot that he's triple teammed on and argues with the ref while the Magic score a layup on the other end down the floor. Halftime, turn off TV (got it DVRed in case of something epic) go play guitar and put kids to bed. Come back late in the 3rd and Melo forces a shot, gets beat down court as Magic have an uncontested dunk. Woody is yelling at him. Mike Breen is saying Melo is yelling back. I guess he was too distracted by the MVP chants from Knick fans in Orlando to quit crying about non calls on forced shots and get back on D.

MVP!

Thank god we won... but I will tell you these guys are going to turn on Melo if that crap doesnt stop. A guy like Sheed will just punch him in the face and say I didnt come back after two years for this crap.

fishmike wrote:im a believer. All of Dolan's minions on this board have opened my eyes to Melo's greatness. All hail king JAMES!

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:The morning after its all worth it!!!!

Funny. pumping the chest out on "the trade" the morning after we bet the champs on their floor WITHOut That superstar!

So we have perhaps our best game of the season without him?

And Im the one they think is "linsane"?

you really cant make this stuff up.

I know, I know, not being tkf = not trashing Melo

Amar'e Stoudemire feasted with Raymond Felton, and Raymond Felton put up career numbers in both points per game along with assists per game playing alongside Stoudemire. Raymond Felton himself averaged 17.1 points (career high) and 9.0 assists per game (another career high) during his 54 games alongside Amar'e Stoudemire back in only 2010-2011. Raymond Felton being able to work with both Tyson Chandler/Amar'e Stoudemire in regards to the pick and roll is going to become a thing of beauty for our offense moving forward. Felton is on the verge of having two amazing finishers at the rim in Stoudemire and Chandler.

With Felton at the Point, Amar'e Stoudemire set a franchise record for consecutive games of 30+ points. Also averaged 25.3 points, 8.1 boards, 2.6 assists and 1.9 blocks per game. Had an outstanding first season with our Knicks. Also murdered K.G and the Boston Celtics during game one of our playoff matchup. On the road in Boston too. Put up 28 points, 11 boards, 2 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals off 12/18 shooting.

And then he got injured. Even last year during a time where Stoudemire was hurt, recovering from injury, lost his brother due to death etc, etc had an overall off-year and still put up 17.5 points, 7.9 boards, 1.1 assists and 1.0 blocks per game. Hurt his hand punching an extinguisher, missed 1 playoff game due to a bad hand and returned to drop 20 points and 10 boards off 8/13 shooting during our first playoff win in quite some time (against Miami).

Here in 2012-2013? I believe we're on the verge of getting a 100% healthy Amar'e Stoudemire. Which could be scary for the rest of the league. Before Stoudemire had to get this cyst removed from his knee, he was focused on the game of basketball like never before. Worked out during the entire offseason with an all-time great in Hakeem Olajuwon. Chances are Stoudemire learned a thing or two in regards to overall footwork, back to the basket ability along with low post moves (thanks to Hakeem working with Amar'e on a daily basis).

During Stoudemire's first and only preseason game (here in 2012-2013), he put up 18 points, 5 boards and 1 block off 8/11 shooting (only 27 minutes). Look great during his preseason return.

Kurt Thomas, Rahseed Wallace, Marcus Camby, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler. We're about to have some big men down low.

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:hey Knicksnot? Why the early attacks? Guys working hard to rehab and your attacking his defense and everything else. I think Im going to vent my frustration by trashing Melo.

Wow. What a surprising change of events! So out of character for the fishman

go find me a post where I trash him. Go fetch boy!

FYI: "Melo isnt MVP" doesnt not = trashing

Happy searching!

Arf Arf! Too easy. Almost. Although your trashing is not of the outright tkf "he maimed and killed my dog and mailed it's lifeless head to my children for Christmas" variety. Still....

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:i like the karmic implications of this hire. d'antoni really was a good soldier and professional while here and essentially got shafted (along with walsh) by dolan.

regardless of how you feel about his coaching, he never had the type of squad that was reflective of his ethos in new york. now in los angeles he finally does.

this.. I love how the dude made Chris Duhon look like a stud and people cried because the Knicks didnt defend. Highlarious. People will quickly see the problem was never MDA, it was the Knicks and their players. Of course they were playing pretty well until a certain trade happened, but water under the bridge. After the donkees we had here MDA was refreshing and he will do a great job with the Lakers.

fishmike wrote:If its stupid why not just ignore it?
not huslting and having coaching problems is part of his history, but Im sure this year is different. Thats the great thing Ive learned about having Melo on your team. Every new year is THE year he's going to not quit, or win a playoff game, or win a playoff series, or come into shape. Melo = hope springs eternal.

Why is the best player on a 5-0 team (best in the league) taking off possessions and giving up uncontested dunks because he's too busy worried about getting calls on forced shots against a triple team? Stupid indeed.

fishmike wrote:you cant make this up. I put the game on right before halftime last night. Melo pounds the rock, forces a shot that he's triple teammed on and argues with the ref while the Magic score a layup on the other end down the floor. Halftime, turn off TV (got it DVRed in case of something epic) go play guitar and put kids to bed. Come back late in the 3rd and Melo forces a shot, gets beat down court as Magic have an uncontested dunk. Woody is yelling at him. Mike Breen is saying Melo is yelling back. I guess he was too distracted by the MVP chants from Knick fans in Orlando to quit crying about non calls on forced shots and get back on D.

MVP!

Thank god we won... but I will tell you these guys are going to turn on Melo if that crap doesnt stop. A guy like Sheed will just punch him in the face and say I didnt come back after two years for this crap.

fishmike wrote:im a believer. All of Dolan's minions on this board have opened my eyes to Melo's greatness. All hail king JAMES!

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:The morning after its all worth it!!!!

Funny. pumping the chest out on "the trade" the morning after we bet the champs on their floor WITHOut That superstar!

So we have perhaps our best game of the season without him?

And Im the one they think is "linsane"?

you really cant make this stuff up.

I know, I know, not being tkf = not trashing Melo

Rookie wrote:he looks 1/2" taller

Thats scary..

fishmike wrote:
Funny you mention Breen, because didnt he call Melo out on that play that ended up with Melo and Woody jawing each other?

hmm interesting, What play was that?

Nalod wrote:I might step in:

Fish is not slaming Melo, he is slamming the Homeristic Bieber-like love that goes with it.

It does get annoying. The perspective is narrow and after 20 games it is assumed the 1st seed is ours to lose.

Reality is there is 62 more games which need be EARNED.

Im not speaking for Fish, just my take.

Its suppose to be fun.

I hit the "Ignore" button a lot, but there are times the sugercoating is just too think.

Fun. Yes, it is supposed to be fun. I dont disagree that it might get to be a bit much, but can you admit that there is a Yang to the Melo-homerism-Ying? The constant undervaluing of his game at every chance. The hijacking of threads and the out-of nowhere melo-bash-a-thon. Using numbers and stats to tell me that Melo didn't have a good game when I just saw with my own 2 eyes that he had an exceptional game with clutch baskets. That gets annoying aswell....

Nalod wrote:I might step in:

Fish is not slaming Melo, he is slamming the Homeristic Bieber-like love that goes with it.

It does get annoying. The perspective is narrow and after 20 games it is assumed the 1st seed is ours to lose.

Reality is there is 62 more games which need be EARNED.

Im not speaking for Fish, just my take.

Its suppose to be fun.

I hit the "Ignore" button a lot, but there are times the sugercoating is just too think.

I don't understand how you can read into intent when posters dislike the conversation about Melo and their pointing their dislike is not a problem in your eyes, even when some of the posters come out and even say they hate Melo player.

But completely miss it and come up with that ex-girl friend bull about wanting the player to fail being wrong or childish when posters talk about Lin and Gallo, even though a good number of the posters will say they don't hate the those players in the least???

Smacks of hypocrisy dude.

Seems like it takes a player to be an ex before they get protection from you.

GustavBahler wrote:Stat will bring the house down if he shows some posts moves in his first game back. Looks like he's dropped some weight. Should help cut down on injuries.

That! Would be as uplifting as Willis' first to baskets in game 7