fishmike wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I can't stand all this lame talk about Amar'e being able to "fit in". What kind of BS is this. This man has been an All Star and had some great performances over his career. Amar'e more than Melo for the bulk of his career has been the ultimate team player in terms of fitting into a scheme and not slowing it down. STAT's game is not one built on hogging the ball. He's been the ultimate PnR PF so how is it so many think he can't work great on this team? It's up to the coach and the teams PG's to make it all work. IMO if you keep everyone moving there's no reason you can't excel with Amar'e on the floor. It's all about spacing, ball movement and execution. Let's knock off all the crap about Amar'e like he's some kind of scrub.

bs post!

We are talking about "now" Amare

Not the one who excelled because of Nash

Amare excelled with Felton too. The question is and will always be regarding his health

for .5 of a season out of a 5 year contract

and Melo's had one good playoff run in 10 tries. Doesnt stop you calling him the greatest ever.

Knicks arent beating elite teams in the playoffs without Amare playing some major role. If its Melo and supporting parts expect the same results we have seen over the last decade.

Uhhhh.... I said greatest ever??????

DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

I've said top 15 in the league ................. NOW!

Geeeeeeeez

during that season (i'll never forget) we had loss 4 in a row, and riley took the team to atlantic city after the 4th loss..we came back and reeled off 15 straight wins to match the rockets winning streak during that season. The chemistry was great, the defense was locked in, and the offense was very unstable. We basically won games by making key stops in the 4th quarter just like last night. As a matter of fact, we had the best 4th quarter defense of any team in the league by far.

I am a little surprise at our record without amare, i didn't think we would miss shump that much cause we had kidd, Jr, and Brewer..rasheed and kidd have been heaven sent..I expected melo, felton and JR to have greaty seasons, especcially melo and felton..

If we win this thing this year, I hope every single regular poster on this board who have been posting for years through the embarrassing seasons, can get together and celebrate for 24 hrs straight together..

CashMoney wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:I didn't imagine that we would anytime after the first week or two of the season. And I'm still not convinced that we can keep this up. I'm nervous about Amare's return to the lineup and I'm worried about our problems rebounding and how many 3-pointers we're taking. We're on pace to shoot around 2300 threes this season and we're currently shooting them at a 41% clip. Since 2000 only a couple of teams have shot 40% or better from 3 over the course of an entire season and all the best 3-point shooting teams take 2000 or less shots over the course of an entire season. I think we're over-reliant on 3-pointers and we really, really struggle offensively when they're not falling.

same concerns

I think the 3pt attempts will come down when STAT gets back as well as Shump. The only time when we have a post presence right now is when Melo posts up or when Wallace posts once in a blue moon. STAT will post up and Shump is more of a slasher. They're going to continue to shoot the 3 ball as long as they're open shots.

This. Amare is not a 3pt shooter. Right now we dont have a guy like Amare of course we are going to take a lot of threes

fishmike wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I can't stand all this lame talk about Amar'e being able to "fit in". What kind of BS is this. This man has been an All Star and had some great performances over his career. Amar'e more than Melo for the bulk of his career has been the ultimate team player in terms of fitting into a scheme and not slowing it down. STAT's game is not one built on hogging the ball. He's been the ultimate PnR PF so how is it so many think he can't work great on this team? It's up to the coach and the teams PG's to make it all work. IMO if you keep everyone moving there's no reason you can't excel with Amar'e on the floor. It's all about spacing, ball movement and execution. Let's knock off all the crap about Amar'e like he's some kind of scrub.

bs post!

We are talking about "now" Amare

Not the one who excelled because of Nash

Amare excelled with Felton too. The question is and will always be regarding his health

for .5 of a season out of a 5 year contract

and Melo's had one good playoff run in 10 tries. Doesnt stop you calling him the greatest ever.

Knicks arent beating elite teams in the playoffs without Amare playing some major role. If its Melo and supporting parts expect the same results we have seen over the last decade.

3 pages from now...when we are wondered how this turned into "another" Melo thread.....^^^^

How long do we have to go into the season before it finally sinks in this is a legit team? 6-0, hot start, but understood it was very early in the year. 17 games in, 20% of the season gone, #1 in the East.

This is the quietest 4 game win streak I've experienced with the Knicks.

I did not envision the Knicks to have the best record in the East at any point this season. I thought they'd be over .500 for sure, but I did not see 6 - 0 to start the season, and I did not see the Knicks leading the Heat and the entire East by any amount of games in the standings.

I thought for sure we'd be in the thick of things, figuring out roles, gaining chemistry as the season went along.

Glad I was wrong.

NYKMentality wrote:I myself personally knew exactly what type of team we had heading into the season during the offseason. Over on RealGM predicted we'd finish as the #2 seed. The only reason why I put Miami ahead of us, wasn't because of overall talent (that belongs to us) but out of respect for defending World champions. Made it known how we were on the verge of featuring one of the deepest, if not the deepest team in the entire league. Created a thread explaining (when fully healthy) how we're the deepest Knicks team we've featured since the 1993-1994 Knicks team. Also predicted we'd win the Atlantic Division for only the 5th time in Franchise history. Something in which we haven't done since 1994.

Time will tell with all of these, but also predicted that Melo would take home the MVP award while ranking top 3 in scoring. Predicted that we'd rank top 5 in offensive points per game (currently 4th). Predicted that we'd have the leagues number one defense in regards to points allowed. As of right now we're 8th overall (allowing 94.7 per game) but then again Indy is ranked #1 allowing only 91.1. There's lots of season left in order to make up a differential of 3.6 per game. When fully healthy Felton, Kidd, Pablo, Shumpert, J.R Smith, Melo, Brewer, Kurt Thomas, Rasheed, Camby and Tyson Chandler is going to lock teams the fk down come postseason play (hopefully we're fully healthy).

Last but not least, predicted J.R Smith as the NBA's 6th Man of the Year award winner.

Defense wins championsips, and under a defensive minded coach such as Woodson, our defense can bring a title home to New York for the first time since 1972-1973.

For a guy who joined here two weeks after the season started we have no way of knowing your preseason predications.

For all we know, every year you "believe" we gonna succeed!

Not that there is anything wrong with that. But your pretty much in full "told you so" mode so if your gonna do that you might want to have accountability.

gunsnewing wrote:Amare scoring in the flow of the offense will not be a problem now that we have pg leaders

+1

Anji wrote:Filthy homers.

Filthy Somberainians.

I actually have us in GamePicker to win every game, so I would maintain we are underachieving.

No, not every game by >15 points, but every game none the less.