Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Felton is an inefficient scorer who takes a ton of shots, which is very frustrating. You know he takes more shots a game than Tim Duncan, Chris Paul, Zach Randolph, Deron Williams, Blake Griffin, Carlos Boozer, and Pau Gasol?!
His one redeeming quality is that he's good passer.

I agree. He can be so much of a better player if he plays under control. What's troubling is that he followed the same script his first time around. Started out great and then really tailed off. Woody and Kidd need to set him straight.

This is who Felton is.

And, I had this argument numerous times with Hotfresh about him shooting too much. He states that if they leave him open (and they do because he can't shoot), then he has to keep shooting. I completely disagree. Rondo passes up wide open shots and so should Felton.

We should NOT live and die by Felton's shot.

I'm fine with him shooting open jump shots but he should not be trying to create his own jump shot.

Good point. Felton isn't good at shooting off the dribble. He needs to penetrate and shoot from the set position. The ball was finding its way back to him when we were passing better. Even when shooting well 19 shots is too much for him to take when we have options like Tyson on the PnR and Melo. I actually think Ray is a really good finisher. But he has to focus. Someone posted before that this slide for him started when he tried to prove something against Lin. Although he finished with decent numbers that game he was definitely forcing the issue early on. I agree that he's the kind of player that lets a loss like that affect him. He needs to be re-focussed.

Not having Kidd out there obviosuly affected him, but that's going to happen throughout the season. Kidd is going to need nights off (hopefully not extended injury time off). Felton needs to be smarter.

Give big props to Avery for forcing felton to shoot or give it to Tyson, eliminate the perimeter lanes to kick out.

They took away our perimeter, they took Novak and JR out the game, force them to put the ball on the floor more then they like..

Shots are not always going to fall, leaving stackhouse wide open for some momentum change 3's was one of them main keys to the loss..

Woodson pack the paint and forced the NETS on the perimeter, and they shot horrible for most of the game, but those two 3's that stackhouse hit were body blows that had us bending over. Then when we miss a few key shots(felton melo) you have to come back down and defend even harder and our energy was fading fast.

You ever notice that when ever a player hits a shot, he runs back down to get on defense, but if he misses, his energy gets zap a little and he jogs and is usually last down the court..

knicks1248 wrote:Although were a deeper then last yr, Amare's presence will be miss and yesterday was a day we could have use him and shump..amare may not be a rodman on the boards, he would have certainly grabbed is share of nets misses, instead of evans out working us for the most part.

Give big props to Avery for forcing felton to shoot or give it to Tyson, eliminate the perimeter lanes to kick out.

They took away our perimeter, they took Novak and JR out the game, force them to put the ball on the floor more then they like..

Shots are not always going to fall, leaving stackhouse wide open for some momentum change 3's was one of them main keys to the loss..

Woodson pack the paint and forced the NETS on the perimeter, and they shot horrible for most of the game, but those two 3's that stackhouse hit were body blows that had us bending over. Then when we miss a few key shots(felton melo) you have to come back down and defend even harder and our energy was fading fast.

You ever notice that when ever a player hits a shot, he runs back down to get on defense, but if he misses, his energy gets zap a little and he jogs and is usually last down the court..

Good points. The thing that really helps us here is that teams are really adjusting to how we have been playing. That is just going to make us a better team come later in the season. Of course, that is true of most deeper teams, those teams that have the pieces to adjust, of which, there are not too many. I do feel we are better than NJ due to our bench, and Stat wasn't there as you said - but, that is hit or miss. Hopefully the chemistry can be a bit better with our more experienced PG's. Kidd being out really hurt us.

We have to get better play from our PG in Felton though. It all starts there and he has to make more of his shots. Defense has been slipping lately as well, and that is concerning because it is very early in the season, a bit too soon to start backing off. There, at least we have to look forward to Shump coming back.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Felton is an inefficient scorer who takes a ton of shots, which is very frustrating. You know he takes more shots a game than Tim Duncan, Chris Paul, Zach Randolph, Deron Williams, Blake Griffin, Carlos Boozer, and Pau Gasol?!
His one redeeming quality is that he's good passer.

I agree. He can be so much of a better player if he plays under control. What's troubling is that he followed the same script his first time around. Started out great and then really tailed off. Woody and Kidd need to set him straight.

This is who Felton is.

And, I had this argument numerous times with Hotfresh about him shooting too much. He states that if they leave him open (and they do because he can't shoot), then he has to keep shooting. I completely disagree. Rondo passes up wide open shots and so should Felton.

We should NOT live and die by Felton's shot.

I'm fine with him shooting open jump shots but he should not be trying to create his own jump shot.

Agreed. If they just back off he should shoot - when he dribbles and shoots or like you said - attempts to create his own shot, I find myself wanting to shoot myself in the head.

VCoug wrote:Heh.

John Hollinger
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Knick fans: In Portland what happened tonight is known as a "Feltdown." You may wish to keep that term handy for future reference.

haha - a Feltdown!

CashMoney wrote:Everyone names Melo and Chandler has a roough game last night. It's easy to point to Felton and give place the blame on him but I don't have a problem with him taking open jumpers. The floater air ball was disgusting but it is what it is. Heck we can point to Melo's missed FT's, Sheed's horrible shotting, JR not shooting enough, Novak missing wide open looks, etc.

Tough loss to swallow but the season is full of ups and downs. Moving on to the Bucks.....