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Syniko
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11/21/2012  2:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2012  2:42 AM
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:WOW

If it weren't for Linsanity, Knicks wouuld not have had a fat chance in hell of making the playoff last season because they were already a team that was struggling. The Linsanity spurt kept the team afloat and then the Melo-party-pooper ruined it after he came back and screwed up team chemistry.

In hindsight, you can rip on Linsanity but just imagine if knicks had made it all the way to the finals, you wouldn't talk down the contribution Lin gave to the team.

Again, total disrespect. Lin has had this all his life as an NBA player.

just imagine if we didn't pick up Billups' option, signed Chandler with the cap space, re-signed Billups, still got Novak, JR still came over after his China stint and we fired D'Antoni from the start and hired Woodson

imagine if STAT, Melo, Shumpert, Jeffries and Chandler weren't dealing with injuries all year and we had a full camp

imagine if we won the Cleveland game STAT came back or didn't lose to the Bobcats and faced the Pacers in Round 1 instead of the Heat

we can imagine all we want but I'm focus on reality

Well, you can write all that and then imagine if Lin never came off the bench and Knicks went on another 15 game losing streak without Carmelo in the lineup.

Don't be ridiculous. You're trying to turn a diamond in the rough into a turd in a toilet.

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11/21/2012  2:42 AM
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:WOW

If it weren't for Linsanity, Knicks wouuld not have had a fat chance in hell of making the playoff last season because they were already a team that was struggling. The Linsanity spurt kept the team afloat and then the Melo-party-pooper ruined it after he came back and screwed up team chemistry.

In hindsight, you can rip on Linsanity but just imagine if knicks had made it all the way to the finals, you wouldn't talk down the contribution Lin gave to the team.

Again, total disrespect. Lin has had this all his life as an NBA player.

just imagine if we didn't pick up Billups' option, signed Chandler with the cap space, re-signed Billups, still got Novak, JR still came over after his China stint and we fired D'Antoni from the start and hired Woodson

imagine if STAT, Melo, Shumpert, Jeffries and Chandler weren't dealing with injuries all year and we had a full camp

imagine if we won the Cleveland game STAT came back or didn't lose to the Bobcats and faced the Pacers in Round 1 instead of the Heat

we can imagine all we want but I'm focus on reality

Well, you can write all that and then imagine if Lin never came off the bench.

imagine if Lin didn't go back and get more money, imagine if he was loyal to the team

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11/21/2012  2:46 AM
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:I take this over Lin because its about the team, not 1 player

I prefer this because its something that can last not that run he had

Guys ask for team ball and Lin didn't epitomize that, it was all about him and he started playing like it

What the heck are you talking about? You can like the run we are on as all of us do. But don't say Lin wasn't about the team. He epitomized the team and took a bunch of nobodies on a winning streak.
He brought basketball back to NY and made the game fun to watch again. It was pure team ball. Don't degrade the past cause the present is to your liking.

not Lin as a person, good kid and all, but the run was more about him and not Novak stepping up, Shumpert stepping up, Jeffries and Chandler holding it down inside, where was all their praise and glory. There would be no Toronto game winner without Shumpert, Novak opened up the floor for Lin to drive and run the pick n roll now Shumpert/Novak/Jeffries/Chandler are nobodies huh?, JR added in some good games

He didn't bring basketball back to New York, STAT did, the game was fun to watch it just sucked losing. What's pure team ball, I'm sick of that phrase, there's isn't 1 way to play basketball, you mix it up and create a system. I liked the run we had it was nice but over rated in so many ways. Carmelo took over when STAT and Lin went down and we won games and was that fun to watch, hell yeah, but he gets **** on because Lin is no longer here.

Our run now is team based not named after 1 guy getting all the glory. I hate **** like that in team sports similar to how Denver got rid of Tebow got a true winner and built around him and look at their success. We're better off without a PG who would look off STAT and Melo to feed Landry Fields and take off balance runners and get striped at half court and turn the ball over like a freshmen in his 1st varsity game

The future is bright, Linsanity bull**** is over, its about the KnicksTape, not Melo, not STAT, no one but the New York Knicks are this is what we've all been waiting for

enjoy the ride, real fans

Lin wasn't playing selfish basketball though. He was playing team basketball. It just so happened that he was able to score a bunch of points in the process. Was that a bad thing? Linsanity is part of Knicks history.

How is it that Knicks fans are brushing it off like it was just another normal day in MSG?

what is team basketball exactly?

anyway Lin had 2 legit scorers and instead of being more like Rondo(facilitating) he was more like Westbrook, he was shooting just as much as STAT and Melo and then the media craze was just too much. Guys who helped us win didn't get any credit, he was bigger than the team and that's not healthy in sports. Linsanity was good but we seen **** like that before, STAT's 9 straight 30 point games, Carmelo's April its all part of the process but I just dont feel it was sustainable not to mention he didn't wanna be here, he said he feels like Houston is a better situation for him to grow as player which is fine

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11/21/2012  2:50 AM
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:WOW

If it weren't for Linsanity, Knicks wouuld not have had a fat chance in hell of making the playoff last season because they were already a team that was struggling. The Linsanity spurt kept the team afloat and then the Melo-party-pooper ruined it after he came back and screwed up team chemistry.

In hindsight, you can rip on Linsanity but just imagine if knicks had made it all the way to the finals, you wouldn't talk down the contribution Lin gave to the team.

Again, total disrespect. Lin has had this all his life as an NBA player.

just imagine if we didn't pick up Billups' option, signed Chandler with the cap space, re-signed Billups, still got Novak, JR still came over after his China stint and we fired D'Antoni from the start and hired Woodson

imagine if STAT, Melo, Shumpert, Jeffries and Chandler weren't dealing with injuries all year and we had a full camp

imagine if we won the Cleveland game STAT came back or didn't lose to the Bobcats and faced the Pacers in Round 1 instead of the Heat

we can imagine all we want but I'm focus on reality

Well, you can write all that and then imagine if Lin never came off the bench.

imagine if Lin didn't go back and get more money, imagine if he was loyal to the team

I'm done with you.

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11/21/2012  2:50 AM
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:I take this over Lin because its about the team, not 1 player

I prefer this because its something that can last not that run he had

Guys ask for team ball and Lin didn't epitomize that, it was all about him and he started playing like it

What the heck are you talking about? You can like the run we are on as all of us do. But don't say Lin wasn't about the team. He epitomized the team and took a bunch of nobodies on a winning streak.
He brought basketball back to NY and made the game fun to watch again. It was pure team ball. Don't degrade the past cause the present is to your liking.

not Lin as a person, good kid and all, but the run was more about him and not Novak stepping up, Shumpert stepping up, Jeffries and Chandler holding it down inside, where was all their praise and glory. There would be no Toronto game winner without Shumpert, Novak opened up the floor for Lin to drive and run the pick n roll now Shumpert/Novak/Jeffries/Chandler are nobodies huh?, JR added in some good games

He didn't bring basketball back to New York, STAT did, the game was fun to watch it just sucked losing. What's pure team ball, I'm sick of that phrase, there's isn't 1 way to play basketball, you mix it up and create a system. I liked the run we had it was nice but over rated in so many ways. Carmelo took over when STAT and Lin went down and we won games and was that fun to watch, hell yeah, but he gets **** on because Lin is no longer here.

Our run now is team based not named after 1 guy getting all the glory. I hate **** like that in team sports similar to how Denver got rid of Tebow got a true winner and built around him and look at their success. We're better off without a PG who would look off STAT and Melo to feed Landry Fields and take off balance runners and get striped at half court and turn the ball over like a freshmen in his 1st varsity game

The future is bright, Linsanity bull**** is over, its about the KnicksTape, not Melo, not STAT, no one but the New York Knicks are this is what we've all been waiting for

enjoy the ride, real fans

Lin wasn't playing selfish basketball though. He was playing team basketball. It just so happened that he was able to score a bunch of points in the process. Was that a bad thing? Linsanity is part of Knicks history.

How is it that Knicks fans are brushing it off like it was just another normal day in MSG?

what is team basketball exactly?

anyway Lin had 2 legit scorers and instead of being more like Rondo(facilitating) he was more like Westbrook, he was shooting just as much as STAT and Melo and then the media craze was just too much. Guys who helped us win didn't get any credit, he was bigger than the team and that's not healthy in sports. Linsanity was good but we seen **** like that before, STAT's 9 straight 30 point games, Carmelo's April its all part of the process but I just dont feel it was sustainable not to mention he didn't wanna be here, he said he feels like Houston is a better situation for him to grow as player which is fine

You're seriously asking me what team basketball is? Isn't the word TEAM obvious enough?

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11/21/2012  3:08 AM
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
Syniko wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:I take this over Lin because its about the team, not 1 player

I prefer this because its something that can last not that run he had

Guys ask for team ball and Lin didn't epitomize that, it was all about him and he started playing like it

What the heck are you talking about? You can like the run we are on as all of us do. But don't say Lin wasn't about the team. He epitomized the team and took a bunch of nobodies on a winning streak.
He brought basketball back to NY and made the game fun to watch again. It was pure team ball. Don't degrade the past cause the present is to your liking.

not Lin as a person, good kid and all, but the run was more about him and not Novak stepping up, Shumpert stepping up, Jeffries and Chandler holding it down inside, where was all their praise and glory. There would be no Toronto game winner without Shumpert, Novak opened up the floor for Lin to drive and run the pick n roll now Shumpert/Novak/Jeffries/Chandler are nobodies huh?, JR added in some good games

He didn't bring basketball back to New York, STAT did, the game was fun to watch it just sucked losing. What's pure team ball, I'm sick of that phrase, there's isn't 1 way to play basketball, you mix it up and create a system. I liked the run we had it was nice but over rated in so many ways. Carmelo took over when STAT and Lin went down and we won games and was that fun to watch, hell yeah, but he gets **** on because Lin is no longer here.

Our run now is team based not named after 1 guy getting all the glory. I hate **** like that in team sports similar to how Denver got rid of Tebow got a true winner and built around him and look at their success. We're better off without a PG who would look off STAT and Melo to feed Landry Fields and take off balance runners and get striped at half court and turn the ball over like a freshmen in his 1st varsity game

The future is bright, Linsanity bull**** is over, its about the KnicksTape, not Melo, not STAT, no one but the New York Knicks are this is what we've all been waiting for

enjoy the ride, real fans

Lin wasn't playing selfish basketball though. He was playing team basketball. It just so happened that he was able to score a bunch of points in the process. Was that a bad thing? Linsanity is part of Knicks history.

How is it that Knicks fans are brushing it off like it was just another normal day in MSG?

what is team basketball exactly?

anyway Lin had 2 legit scorers and instead of being more like Rondo(facilitating) he was more like Westbrook, he was shooting just as much as STAT and Melo and then the media craze was just too much. Guys who helped us win didn't get any credit, he was bigger than the team and that's not healthy in sports. Linsanity was good but we seen **** like that before, STAT's 9 straight 30 point games, Carmelo's April its all part of the process but I just dont feel it was sustainable not to mention he didn't wanna be here, he said he feels like Houston is a better situation for him to grow as player which is fine

You're seriously asking me what team basketball is? Isn't the word TEAM obvious enough?

you keep saying Lin had us playing team basketball but isn't that what we've been doing all along duh that makes no sense

so what is your definition if team basketball

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11/21/2012  7:06 AM
I'm glad Lin is gone we need tough guys on this team not guys who won't play in the playoffs at 85 percent when their team is decimated by injuries just because he knew Miami would expose him (again) and he wouldn't be able to cash in during the offseason with a new contract
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11/21/2012  9:29 AM
This Knick team is very good unfortunately we have 1 maybe 2 seasons to get the job done. Last year they had no chance of getting out of the first round this season I dont think the ECF is an unrealistic goal.
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11/21/2012  9:56 AM
Jmpasq wrote:This Knick team is very good unfortunately we have 1 maybe 2 seasons to get the job done. Last year they had no chance of getting out of the first round this season I dont think the ECF is an unrealistic goal.

Why, Melo, Chandler, Felton, JR, and Brewer going to fall apart at ages 29-31??? In 1 or 2 years we'll just be finding a New Kidd and Camby.
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11/28/2012  5:48 AM
Mray20 wrote:I'm glad Lin is gone we need tough guys on this team not guys who won't play in the playoffs at 85 percent when their team is decimated by injuries just because he knew Miami would expose him (again) and he wouldn't be able to cash in during the offseason with a new contract

Have you missed what has transpired with Lin this year? He is still not 100%, for whatever reason. So, what you are derogatorily talking about is actually not true as he was incapable of playing last year - truly. Also, I take Lins cerebral powers and passing abilities over Felton, even if Lin is just starting to hit his stride. I like Felton, but I can't stand his inconsistency and sometimes stupid play. Lin is starting to turn things around but Felton, as good as he is, has been inconsistent his entire career. It's a long season though...

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11/28/2012  8:34 AM
This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

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11/28/2012  10:26 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

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11/28/2012  10:39 AM
lin has been doing well of late
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11/28/2012  10:49 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

Lol it's ok if you do, I don't take it personal. I take it as a compliment.

Knicks are #2 most valuable NBA franchise after LA by the way.

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11/28/2012  10:52 AM
Anji wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:This Knick team is very good unfortunately we have 1 maybe 2 seasons to get the job done. Last year they had no chance of getting out of the first round this season I dont think the ECF is an unrealistic goal.

Why, Melo, Chandler, Felton, JR, and Brewer going to fall apart at ages 29-31??? In 1 or 2 years we'll just be finding a New Kidd and Camby.

I don't get why people think our window is so small. We have only a couple of players who will need to be replaced. Most of our core is in their primes.

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11/28/2012  10:54 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

Lol it's ok if you do, I don't take it personal. I take it as a compliment.

Knicks are #2 most valuable NBA franchise after LA by the way.

Valuable to whom?

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11/28/2012  11:15 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

Lol it's ok if you do, I don't take it personal. I take it as a compliment.

Knicks are #2 most valuable NBA franchise after LA by the way.

Valuable to whom?

Why you keep posting your Dad, keep that to yourself man!

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11/28/2012  11:27 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

Lol it's ok if you do, I don't take it personal. I take it as a compliment.

Knicks are #2 most valuable NBA franchise after LA by the way.

Valuable to whom?

Why you keep posting your Dad, keep that to yourself man!

if true, knick fans would have some hope for a succesion plan.

The Eventual coup de grace would leave me and my legions of Sombers to rise up and rebuild this franchise once and for all!

First we'd burn down! Empty the garden of the starphuching homers while playing to half crowds and poor ratings but from it would rise a true contender with strong young men and define a new generation of KNick basketball!

Or, in other words knock off the old man, and get Lebron to sign here next year when his contract is done.

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11/28/2012  11:35 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:This is totally unrelated but totally related. Knicks top NBA jersey sales for first time since 2004. Guess Lin's absence didn't really affect their bottom line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29409/nyk-top-jersey-sales-for-first-time-since-04

Don't mean to ride your posts, but the entire revenue from NBA jersey sales are split evenly amongst NBA players.

They are new jersey design from last year and for the first three weeks the hottest team in the new season that play in the biggest market.

Lol it's ok if you do, I don't take it personal. I take it as a compliment.

Knicks are #2 most valuable NBA franchise after LA by the way.

Valuable to whom?

Why you keep posting your Dad, keep that to yourself man!

if true, knick fans would have some hope for a succesion plan.

The Eventual coup de grace would leave me and my legions of Sombers to rise up and rebuild this franchise once and for all!

First we'd burn down! Empty the garden of the starphuching homers while playing to half crowds and poor ratings but from it would rise a true contender with strong young men and define a new generation of KNick basketball!

Or, in other words knock off the old man, and get Lebron to sign here next year when his contract is done.

Wow...now where have I heard this story before....hmmmmmmmm

half crowds...poor ratings...a really high powered leaping monster as your only draw....

Maybe the new regime would just need to play a few seasons in the Kean University fieldhouse! If Rutgers Athletic Center is too cavernous now, that is...

And pressure the league for a 4 point shot!! and a black and white colored ball! And bring back the Virginia Squires or the Kentucky Colonels! Yeah, that's it!

Real basketball. Brought to you by the Somber Marxist Socialist Nirvana Club.

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11/28/2012  12:01 PM
Knixkik wrote:
Anji wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:This Knick team is very good unfortunately we have 1 maybe 2 seasons to get the job done. Last year they had no chance of getting out of the first round this season I dont think the ECF is an unrealistic goal.

Why, Melo, Chandler, Felton, JR, and Brewer going to fall apart at ages 29-31??? In 1 or 2 years we'll just be finding a New Kidd and Camby.

I don't get why people think our window is so small. We have only a couple of players who will need to be replaced. Most of our core is in their primes.

MILEAGE.... first of all brewer is trash so why is anyone counting on him as a core player, plus he has a one year deal, he will be gone... chandler will be 32, melo,31, felton 31... that is not old, but it is not young, especially with teams getting younger and more talented... if they can't get it done now, do you expect them to do so as they get older? and yea, we sure can find another camby, another 38 year old, out of shape, breaking down center... do we really want that? good luck finding another jason kidd tho..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
I would take this 7-1 start over Linsanity any day

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