Nalod wrote:

misterearl wrote:nalod - I attended my first Knicks game at the old Garden in 1965 and in no way do I feel damaged.

The guards were Johnny Green and Howard Komives

All Die hard knick fans are damaged in some form. Otherwise we'd defect. Most long term suffering for championship fans are this way. Cub and Redsox fans waited lifetimes. WE at least have one!

I did not get to my first game until 1971 so you got me.

But give me some credit, I had Johnny Green as one of my top 25 knicks and do know he was about 38 or 39 at the time you saw him!

Back then witout all the surgery technique we have now, that was truely a medical marvel for a basketball player to have that long a career! He was genetically gifted!

On paper that was a good team. Pre Cazzie but you had Bell's and Willis at the power position! I never saw in prime willis play but before the knees bogged him down I have read he was flyer like Dice was very quick. I think most fans don't really appreciate how great Willis was before the championship years!

Or how Bradley struggled at the 2 his rookie year!

once again, that you, not everyone feel that way. I don't and I've been Die Hard since 79. Not damaged in any way....never lost or wavered in my love for the Knicks.

When I was young, we took pride in being KNick fans whether they looked like contenders or not. Guys act like this teams hasn't been through rock bottom before. After the Clyde era, we were absolutely terrible. The product on the floor was arguable worse than anything placed out there during the Isiah/Layden eras.

Nalod wrote:All Die hard knick fans are damaged in some form. Otherwise we'd defect.

That is crap. If I'm with you, I'm with you. Win or lose. There is no such thing as defecting to another team.

The only damage is the damage of investing too much in something that is pure entertainment.

Defecting is for crybabies who need their Mommy. To be a New Yorker is to stand strong.

A losing season is no more reason to defect than Hurricane Sandy is a reason to defect from New York City.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

misterearl wrote:nalod - I attended my first Knicks game at the old Garden in 1965 and in no way do I feel damaged.

The guards were Johnny Green and Howard Komives

All Die hard knick fans are damaged in some form. Otherwise we'd defect. Most long term suffering for championship fans are this way. Cub and Redsox fans waited lifetimes. WE at least have one!

I did not get to my first game until 1971 so you got me.

But give me some credit, I had Johnny Green as one of my top 25 knicks and do know he was about 38 or 39 at the time you saw him!

Back then witout all the surgery technique we have now, that was truely a medical marvel for a basketball player to have that long a career! He was genetically gifted!

On paper that was a good team. Pre Cazzie but you had Bell's and Willis at the power position! I never saw in prime willis play but before the knees bogged him down I have read he was flyer like Dice was very quick. I think most fans don't really appreciate how great Willis was before the championship years!

Or how Bradley struggled at the 2 his rookie year!

Defecting is for cowards. I grew up with Pat Cummings, Rory Sparrow, Eddie Lee Wilkins, and Louis Orr.

Disgruntled, dismayed, and disappointed through the 80s yes. Few flashes here and there, until the Ewing and 90s era brought some near glory.

2000s were traumatic as they come...still bled Orange and Blue through the scandal and jokes.

Never ever damaged. I grew up with the Knicks, rooted for the Knicks when they sucked. Makes it even sweeter, as they turn the corner now.

We have 2 or 3 years to chase that chip...Enjoy it!

Same...Couldn't have said it any better, bro...

DurzoBlint wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Nalod wrote:
1. We have a team of grown "ass men".

Ok. you can stop now!

You can also stop with the misquote your patented Debbie Downer imitation. The Knicks are showing positive signs in November and the best you got is rain?

No thank you

Nalod your so across the board lately dude. Stop it and FANUP. Being critical right now just makes it look like your hating for the sake of ...well hating :)

But, but...i've been told, NOBODY HATES THE KNICKS!

I would not hang out with you if you were not!!!!!!

Lighten up, didn't someone say Fan is short for "Fanatic"?

Defectors usually make a statement of defection and we give the "good riddence" seal of approval.

Im sure one day when 3-0 starts are not a once every 13 year event we can act accordingly.

Im really do mean it when I say "Enjoy it"! Its far better than the alternative!

As for me, I also cried when Toby Knight blew his knee out! I survived the Back court of Ray Williams and Michael Ray! I learned what frustration was with those two. Talented as any back court but erratic! It got better when Sly Williams would sub in for one of them! Thank goodness for Campy!

DurzoBlint wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Trust me, you guys are Damaged!

I would not hang out with you if you were not!!!!!!

Lighten up, didn't someone say Fan is short for "Fanatic"?

Defectors usually make a statement of defection and we give the "good riddence" seal of approval.

Im sure one day when 3-0 starts are not a once every 13 year event we can act accordingly.

Im really do mean it when I say "Enjoy it"! Its far better than the alternative!

As for me, I also cried when Toby Knight blew his knee out! I survived the Back court of Ray Williams and Michael Ray! I learned what frustration was with those two. Talented as any back court but erratic! It got better when Sly Williams would sub in for one of them! Thank goodness for Campy!

dude, you make me laugh (not in a bad way). You just come up with some of the funnies off the wall stuff. And yeah, I hang out with you here but, if your ever in the Baltimore area, holla @me.

Be fun! Crack some crabs and talk about our favorite starphuchs of the past!

Once upon a time the media liked the knicks!

DurzoBlint wrote:

Uptown wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

misterearl wrote:nalod - I attended my first Knicks game at the old Garden in 1965 and in no way do I feel damaged.

The guards were Johnny Green and Howard Komives

All Die hard knick fans are damaged in some form. Otherwise we'd defect. Most long term suffering for championship fans are this way. Cub and Redsox fans waited lifetimes. WE at least have one!

I did not get to my first game until 1971 so you got me.

But give me some credit, I had Johnny Green as one of my top 25 knicks and do know he was about 38 or 39 at the time you saw him!

Back then witout all the surgery technique we have now, that was truely a medical marvel for a basketball player to have that long a career! He was genetically gifted!

On paper that was a good team. Pre Cazzie but you had Bell's and Willis at the power position! I never saw in prime willis play but before the knees bogged him down I have read he was flyer like Dice was very quick. I think most fans don't really appreciate how great Willis was before the championship years!

Or how Bradley struggled at the 2 his rookie year!

Defecting is for cowards. I grew up with Pat Cummings, Rory Sparrow, Eddie Lee Wilkins, and Louis Orr.

Disgruntled, dismayed, and disappointed through the 80s yes. Few flashes here and there, until the Ewing and 90s era brought some near glory.

2000s were traumatic as they come...still bled Orange and Blue through the scandal and jokes.

Never ever damaged. I grew up with the Knicks, rooted for the Knicks when they sucked. Makes it even sweeter, as they turn the corner now.

We have 2 or 3 years to chase that chip...Enjoy it!

Same...Couldn't have said it any better, bro...

See My Post earlier in this thread UPTown. Seem like we're cut from the same cloth and lived through the same eras.

We're definitely on the same page. Not sure of your age, but similar to Chuck, I go back to Trent Tucker, Kenny "the Animal" Bannister, Cartwright, Truck Robinson, Grunfeld, etc.

Dont understand how anyone who goes back that far, or even further, can stick with the team through the dark aged 80's (especially when King got hurt), remain when the Layden/Isiah and Marbury "Circus" came to town, and now talk about jumping ship just when the dark clouds are fading.

People have talked about leaving now that Lin is gone, but we've seen better more accomplished players leave or get traded away and we've remained. Clyde was traded, Sugar Ray Richardson, Strickland & Mark Jackson who both was at the center of our revitalization in the late 80's were both traded away. King was let go for nothing. We can go on and on......Nevermind what the names are on the back of the jerseys for a minute, just look at the way we are playing the game right now. The ball movement, the defense, it reminds me of the better days. Its beautiful.....

UPtown wrote:
We're definitely on the same page. Not sure of your age, but similar to Chuck, I go back to Trent Tucker, Kenny "the Animal" Bannister, Cartwright, Truck Robinson, Grunfeld, etc.

Dont understand how anyone who goes back that far, or even further, can stick with the team through the dark aged 80's (especially when King got hurt), remain when the Layden/Isiah and Marbury "Circus" came to town, and now talk about jumping ship just when the dark clouds are fading.

People have talked about leaving now that Lin is gone, but we've seen better more accomplished players leave or get traded away and we've remained. Clyde was traded, Sugar Ray Richardson, Strickland & Mark Jackson who both was at the center of our revitalization in the late 80's were both traded away. King was let go for nothing. We can go on and on......Nevermind what the names are on the back of the jerseys for a minute, just look at the way we are playing the game right now. The ball movement, the defense, it reminds me of the better days. Its beautiful.....

So true, best post I've read in days. That whole 2nd paragraph should be in 3-D Bold so it jumps at at everyone

This is our time.

Nalod wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Trust me, you guys are Damaged!

I would not hang out with you if you were not!!!!!!

Lighten up, didn't someone say Fan is short for "Fanatic"?

Defectors usually make a statement of defection and we give the "good riddence" seal of approval.

Im sure one day when 3-0 starts are not a once every 13 year event we can act accordingly.

Im really do mean it when I say "Enjoy it"! Its far better than the alternative!

As for me, I also cried when Toby Knight blew his knee out! I survived the Back court of Ray Williams and Michael Ray! I learned what frustration was with those two. Talented as any back court but erratic! It got better when Sly Williams would sub in for one of them! Thank goodness for Campy!

dude, you make me laugh (not in a bad way). You just come up with some of the funnies off the wall stuff. And yeah, I hang out with you here but, if your ever in the Baltimore area, holla @me.

Be fun! Crack some crabs and talk about our favorite starphuchs of the past!

Once upon a time the media liked the knicks!

rofl.. I remember that time real well.. another flop with bad knees... it was sad watching him move on the court..

MSG3 wrote:I can't help but start comparing us to LA, OKC, Miami, and think that we're just better. Deeper. Hungrier. I hope it lasts all seaosn. There are going to be losing streaks. There are going to be injuries. But holy crap if the effort and defense of the first 3 games is the new normal this may be the best year we've had since Ewing jumped up on the scorers table and hugged that fan on the sidelines.

oh my lord.... please don't... can we at least earn that comparison.. really, after 3 games?