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RonRon
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10/24/2012  1:36 PM

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Chandler
Camby

Brewer *hopefully he gets back in shape* /Iman *IF HEALTHY and in shape, which no one will know if he can be the same form as even last year for this season*

JR Smith

Kidd/Wallace/Kurt how many 40 year old's do we need? With Chandler/Camby/Kurt/Wallace, at their ages can they even defend the PF's consisetently and play alongside Chandler effectively on both ends?
My biggest question is if Chandler/Camby can team up together to play both PF/C.

I believe Camby in his early years, is one of the better help defenders and rebounder is the league, besides his breif stinct with Clippers, with Dendre Jordan/Kaman, he was never teamed up with a solid PF/C
If the duo of Chandler/Camby can be effective, it would change our team DEFENSIVE abilities together and improve it very much, while we have to find a way to be effective/consistent offensively

Kidd cannot defend 70% of the PG's in the league, same with Pablo.
Felton is actually not as fast/quick to defend PG's, he is probably better defending smaller SG's with his strength/quickness.
I would prefer Iman and even JR Smith harrass and defend the PG's with their size, as I think they are both quicker, faster, more mobile than our PG's

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holfresh
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10/24/2012  1:37 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

mrKnickShot
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10/24/2012  1:42 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

That almost allstar part season for the Knicks, he shot 42 pct!! Isn't it obvious what part of his game is no good?

holfresh
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10/24/2012  1:52 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

That almost allstar part season for the Knicks, he shot 42 pct!! Isn't it obvious what part of his game is no good?

No, I can live with him shooting 42% if he is doing other things to win, which he was....

mrKnickShot
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10/24/2012  1:54 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

That almost allstar part season for the Knicks, he shot 42 pct!! Isn't it obvious what part of his game is no good?

No, I can live with him shooting 42% if he is doing other things to win, which he was....

Thats when we win. Then you are okay with it.

I remember the awful 30 games before the trade. We lived and died with the shooting - a lot of that was him and we mostly died.

I don't want to live and die with Feltons shot. Go back and look at those losses and see how bad his FG was.

holfresh
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10/24/2012  1:56 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

That almost allstar part season for the Knicks, he shot 42 pct!! Isn't it obvious what part of his game is no good?

No, I can live with him shooting 42% if he is doing other things to win, which he was....

Thats when we win. Then you are okay with it.

I remember the awful 30 games before the trade. We lived and died with the shooting - a lot of that was him and we mostly died.

I don't want to live and die with Feltons shot. Go back and look at those losses and see how bad his FG was.

If Felton isn't shooting, who do u want to shoot is my question???

mrKnickShot
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10/24/2012  2:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/24/2012  2:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys are dumping on Tyson Chandler now. He was arguably the most consistent Knick, communicator on defense, the Defensive Player of the Year, and team MVP...

He didn't show up when we needed him most..In the playoffs...

I don't think you can excuse his regular season body of work from just those 5 games. Don't think Melo, Stat, Novak, etc had good a playoff series against Miami either.

I have a theory about playoffs basketball...It reveals exactly who you are...I just think Chandler was sick and had a bad series...That's all good, but come next year, it can't happen again...Novak really disappointed me..He could not get off his own shot, nothing will change this year either, he has to learn to shoot with guys in his face...Melo needed help, period...He has been the only guy carrying us for two years now...JR sucked in the playoffs..STAT was, well missing again...We have to put guys out there who u know will be standing in the playoffs..Guys who can contribute, otherwise it's all pointless...

Can't argue with those points at all. No more excuses.

Oh ... the excuses will come. Everyone will excuse different players though depending on their stance.

Unless we win!

Then, then we will be left with just the habitual kvetchers.

If we don't show that we are moving in the right direction this season, we have to make major changes...I mean trading STAT,Melo,Felton,Chandler and the rest of the crew...We have to scrap this and start over...Imagine next year we are here wondering if Amare will be healthy again or is some other dude going to hit his jumpers this season...

Yes that would suck though a very plausible scenario.

I still think Felton is the key and that is not good.

How was his last game?

How was his last couple of years? Or his career?

He's an ok player and an awful shooter and makes awful decisions as to when to shoot.

To be honest, I haven't really followed his career...I can only talk about what I see..When Felton has been a Knick he has played well...I can't look at stats to see whether or not he took a good shot...Maybe u caught a lot of Charlotte games...I'm fine with what I see him do as a Knick...Like last game...Last time here, he almost made the all star team...I can't see how anyone to complain about that but some how they do...But I'm good with that...

That almost allstar part season for the Knicks, he shot 42 pct!! Isn't it obvious what part of his game is no good?

No, I can live with him shooting 42% if he is doing other things to win, which he was....

Thats when we win. Then you are okay with it.

I remember the awful 30 games before the trade. We lived and died with the shooting - a lot of that was him and we mostly died.

I don't want to live and die with Feltons shot. Go back and look at those losses and see how bad his FG was.

If Felton isn't shooting, who do u want to shoot is my question???

Thats an excellent question. We don't have any guards who can actually shoot - do you see a problem here?

That is why TD took so many shots last year.

Having said that, Novak, Melo, Chandler, Amare, JR (off passes), Kurt Thomas, Jason Kidd ... should shoot before he shoots (unassisted)

He does not need to come down the court and shoot unassisted - that will not make us better.

To sum it up, we are extremely weak at guard AGAIN!

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10/24/2012  2:08 PM
Felton will be okay. Besides the 1st half of last year he has played well the last fewyears. Even in Denver with out MDA. Also JR is a capable scorer who will be playing with pgs so the ball will be out his hands in regards to play making. People let a few games go by then judge.
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