DurzoBlint wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its that killer instinct Jordan had which helped make him the player he was. Check out the bio of Ty Cobb who took it to another level. Cobb also used friendship to get an edge on opponents and would do anything to win. Not excusing their behavior, just pointing out that they probably wouldn't have been the same players without that nasty attitude.

I feel bad for Bogues but that comment Jordan made shows the difference between the two. If someone had said something that nasty to Jordan he would have flat out destroyed the man. Thats the mindset you have to be in when playing ball.

EXACTLY. Killer instinct was what differentiated Jordan from the Vince Carters of the world. He took EVERYTHING personally and ALWAYS got even. Hell, he'd invent shyt to piss himself off; dude was a sadist who believed in not just stepping on the neck of his foes, he'd sodomize then burn the body and scatter the damn ashes too.

If you watched the Reggie Miller HOF speech, he credited Magic for teaching him to cheat and win at all costs. The great ones do that... they only care about winning. There was no better flopper that Reggie.

But Jordan was in a whole different class. I mean, could you imagine playing golf with Jordan and having him talking **** to you when you're playing golf with $50,000 on each hole?

DurzoBlint wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its that killer instinct Jordan had which helped make him the player he was. Check out the bio of Ty Cobb who took it to another level. Cobb also used friendship to get an edge on opponents and would do anything to win. Not excusing their behavior, just pointing out that they probably wouldn't have been the same players without that nasty attitude.

I feel bad for Bogues but that comment Jordan made shows the difference between the two. If someone had said something that nasty to Jordan he would have flat out destroyed the man. Thats the mindset you have to be in when playing ball.

EXACTLY. Killer instinct was what differentiated Jordan from the Vince Carters of the world. He took EVERYTHING personally and ALWAYS got even. Hell, he'd invent shyt to piss himself off; dude was a sadist who believed in not just stepping on the neck of his foes, he'd sodomize then burn the body and scatter the damn ashes too.

If you watched the Reggie Miller HOF speech, he credited Magic for teaching him to cheat and win at all costs. The great ones do that... they only care about winning. There was no better flopper that Reggie.

But Jordan was in a whole different class. I mean, could you imagine playing golf with Jordan and having him talking **** to you when you're playing golf with $50,000 on each hole?

Guys like Jordan and Bruce Lee, they seem to have(or in Lees case had) a drive beyond what most men are capable. From the Pain threshold to and uncontrollable desire to not just win but "dominate." It goes beyond narcissism into the realm of psychosis. Their mental makeup is not so dissimilar to insanity because, I don't believe they can even control it.

Its more of a sociopath drive and he is unaware of his actions when in persuit of his goal. Greatness comes with a price.

Does anyone have any reference to a book or article that better describes his brief retirement other than "Space Jam"? Dude had either a mental breakdown, gambling problem, or some other prolbem that he had to step away. Jordan walking away form the game at his peak just never made any sense.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

nycisgreat wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:i feel bad for mugsy but i care less about barkley he has treated the knicks like ****

Agreed! My brother and I are still trying to figure out why he has so much hate for the Knicks.

2 reasons. One is when we swept him in the 80's and the second reason is because he feels we treated pat like **** so he hates us.

he was hating even before that. It wasn't just being swept but, players brought the brooms out on the floor and Chuck said he'd never forget that. Dude is still bitter which, shows what a bytch he really is. I love hearing the stories of how Charles Oakley smacked the shyt out of him on one occasion because Barkley tried to welch out on a bet. No one messes with the Oaktree