y2zipper wrote:

Papabear wrote:

y2zipper wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Lakers get Dwight for practically nothing. The Knicks franchise doesn't have the management, cache or even player demand to make such a move happen. Kudos to Dr. Buss on his multiple decades of excellence.

Bynum isn't exactly nothing. He's the best center in the league not named Howard. Breakdown...

Lakers: This deal is overrated in that Dwight isn't a huge upgrade from Bynum so it doesn't change the Lakers chances of winning it all next year (still puts them about even with the Thunder and not as good as Miami). It's great for them because they can build around Dwight after Kobe retires, assuming Dwight extends and is healthy.

76ers: This team made out like bandits. You get the second best center in the league and Richardson for Iggy? Can I nominate their GM for executive of the year now please?

Denver: Iggy is better than Al Harrington, so it's a win. Iggy isn't the superstar this team needs, but it's still pretty good for them.

Orlando got fleeced but they were in a no-win situation anyway.

Papabear Says

It's a matter of respect. Thats why they get this deal done and the Knicks can't even sign Martin. Poor management on Orlando's part. They didn't want Gasol? What now they get a bunch of late 1st round picks and lottary protected with all of the team? They waited for this? The Magic are crazy if they let this go through.

No, Orlando didn't want a 32 year old PF with a max contract. Their GM knows they're going in the toilet so he dumped salary and picked up three first round picks. Building in the NBA means you go up or you go way down. Value-wise Orlando got robbed, but got what the GM wanted.

The Lakers found a way to give Orlando what they wanted: draft picks, cap relief and no drama. That's why the Lakers got the deal done.

But Orlando didn't get any cap relief. The contracts for Harrington and Afflalo are longer and worth more money than Jason Richardson's.

The miss timing of it all really is unfortunate for Brooklyn as they were seen as the favorite destination for Dwight. Pretty evident Orlando wanted Dwight out of the east.

Its really possible that Dwight plays this out this year and goes free agent which can include a sign and trade so LA could get something in return. Most likely he extends with Lakes unless his back is a problem.

The **** is annoying.

ChuckBuck wrote:

VCoug wrote:Why does everyone keep talking about a "salary dump"? Jason Richardson has 3 years and $18M left on his deal while Al Harrington has 3 years $21M left and Afflalo has 4 years $30M left. Minus Dwight Howard, Orlando is actually adding salary in this trade.

J-Rich is going to Philly not Orlando. So actually it is full on tank mode for Orlando. Only big contract they have is Hedo Turkoglu.

I know, Orlando is trading JRich and getting back the larger contracts of Harrington and Afflalo. And they still have Glen Davis and Hedo. This trade makes no sense for Orlando, none.

AlexanderFuSheng wrote:What a joke it is that some people refuse to use the NBA Forun & OFF TOPIC Forum.
This ain't it --------> go that way, take the steps down to the correct forum.

The **** is annoying.

not sure why it's so annoying, and yes the NBA Forum and OT Forum are not used as much as perhaps they could.

But it's the offseason, and our main forum gets most of the traffic right now. We are trying to shape it but it does take time.

Literally speaking there is not much Knicks to talk about these days.

Let me ask you: when you see the OT in the thread title and if you would prefer to not read that type of thread, why not just skip?

VCoug wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

VCoug wrote:Why does everyone keep talking about a "salary dump"? Jason Richardson has 3 years and $18M left on his deal while Al Harrington has 3 years $21M left and Afflalo has 4 years $30M left. Minus Dwight Howard, Orlando is actually adding salary in this trade.

J-Rich is going to Philly not Orlando. So actually it is full on tank mode for Orlando. Only big contract they have is Hedo Turkoglu.

I know, Orlando is trading JRich and getting back the larger contracts of Harrington and Afflalo. And they still have Glen Davis and Hedo. This trade makes no sense for Orlando, none.

Like I said the only big contract they have is Hedo. Davis makes $6 mill/yr and Harrington about $7 mill/yr. Afflalo is also manageable at $7.5 mill/yr. They get Vucevic and Moe Harkless both tiny rookie contracts. It's pretty clear which direction Orlando is heading...to the cellar for a full blown rebuild.

I wouldn't say any team is an outright winner- not sure if Dwight fully recovers from his back surgery and shattered psyche, he hasn't even been cleared to practice yet and will probably perform poorly this season. I ont see Sixers as big winners either- Bynums attitude is going down the toilet and he is injury prone too. It'll be interesting to see if he can step up and be the man.

Not sure what Denver are doing, but it could work.

Magic are big losers- 3 mediocre picks and they still have to keep Turkoglu? Players they got are okay but nothing special. Don't know why they didn't deal with the rockets or why they left it so long, til after teams had spent their cap space- it really reduced the amount of bad contracts they could have offloaded.