Bonn1997 wrote:

infinitilov100 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I think what my problem is with some of the Net talk, is that I suspect some fans are hedging their bets. I think they'll start off stating a mild interest in the Nets, and when the new season comes, if the Knicks stink it up and the Nets do well, these same people will jump ship- I just feel that people are just laying the ground work for a full switch with the 'nets are great' talk.I don't think this Knicks fan site should be assisting that. I can't stand Deron Williams, Lopez or the Kardashian. The Nets anti-Knick 'come join us' stuff has also been hacking me off.

For me it's like saying you're a Clipper and Laker fan, or even a Knicks and Heat fan. Rivals are rivals.

Of course you can support both teams, it's your own personal choice, but this is not a Nets board and I don't think we should be supporting people to jump ship- why not post about them in the other Nba topic forum on this site?

Well said Smackeddog! You've hit the nail right smack on its head. I've been trying to say the same things for about a week now and Nalod & Bonn1997 were calling for me (an ultimate knicks fan)to leave. They've also been pushing for me to be banned because I've expressed the same concerns.

I did no such thing. I merely *predicted* that you might be banned. Frankly I think you guys are too obsessed with the Nets in general and policing content about them in particular. It seems like you're not here to talk about the Knicks, Inf, but rather just to make sure people don't talk about the Nets.

The fact that it would have to be policed to begin with says a lot. The Gallo love has faded. The Nuggets love has faded. The Lin love will go down the same road. Now this fixation with the Nets. I said it from the beginning....The Nets most relevant period of time will be summer 2012. This will be because it's all hype, all promo, all good press. No games played. Just commercials, billboards, jerseys, talking heads and concerts at Barklays. Things change once they start racking up on L's. The Brooklyn Nets are undefeated! Perfect time to talk about them as though they mean anything to the world of sports. Very easy to make something like that seem attractive. Wait until games start and people realize that this is still the Nets. The fixation during the summer of 2012 will be laughable by then.

TheloniusMonk wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

infinitilov100 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I think what my problem is with some of the Net talk, is that I suspect some fans are hedging their bets. I think they'll start off stating a mild interest in the Nets, and when the new season comes, if the Knicks stink it up and the Nets do well, these same people will jump ship- I just feel that people are just laying the ground work for a full switch with the 'nets are great' talk.I don't think this Knicks fan site should be assisting that. I can't stand Deron Williams, Lopez or the Kardashian. The Nets anti-Knick 'come join us' stuff has also been hacking me off.

For me it's like saying you're a Clipper and Laker fan, or even a Knicks and Heat fan. Rivals are rivals.

Of course you can support both teams, it's your own personal choice, but this is not a Nets board and I don't think we should be supporting people to jump ship- why not post about them in the other Nba topic forum on this site?

Well said Smackeddog! You've hit the nail right smack on its head. I've been trying to say the same things for about a week now and Nalod & Bonn1997 were calling for me (an ultimate knicks fan)to leave. They've also been pushing for me to be banned because I've expressed the same concerns.

I did no such thing. I merely *predicted* that you might be banned. Frankly I think you guys are too obsessed with the Nets in general and policing content about them in particular. It seems like you're not here to talk about the Knicks, Inf, but rather just to make sure people don't talk about the Nets.

The fact that it would have to be policed to begin with says a lot. The Gallo love has faded. The Nuggets love has faded. The Lin love will go down the same road. Now this fixation with the Nets. I said it from the beginning....The Nets most relevant period of time will be summer 2012. This will be because it's all hype, all promo, all good press. No games played. Just commercials, billboards, jerseys, talking heads and concerts at Barklays. Things change once they start racking up on L's. The Brooklyn Nets are undefeated! Perfect time to talk about them as though they mean anything to the world of sports. Very easy to make something like that seem attractive. Wait until games start and people realize that this is still the Nets. The fixation during the summer of 2012 will be laughable by then.

Bonn1997 wrote:

infinitilov100 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I think what my problem is with some of the Net talk, is that I suspect some fans are hedging their bets. I think they'll start off stating a mild interest in the Nets, and when the new season comes, if the Knicks stink it up and the Nets do well, these same people will jump ship- I just feel that people are just laying the ground work for a full switch with the 'nets are great' talk.I don't think this Knicks fan site should be assisting that. I can't stand Deron Williams, Lopez or the Kardashian. The Nets anti-Knick 'come join us' stuff has also been hacking me off.

For me it's like saying you're a Clipper and Laker fan, or even a Knicks and Heat fan. Rivals are rivals.

Of course you can support both teams, it's your own personal choice, but this is not a Nets board and I don't think we should be supporting people to jump ship- why not post about them in the other Nba topic forum on this site?

Well said Smackeddog! You've hit the nail right smack on its head. I've been trying to say the same things for about a week now and Nalod & Bonn1997 were calling for me (an ultimate knicks fan)to leave. They've also been pushing for me to be banned because I've expressed the same concerns.

I did no such thing. I merely *predicted* that you might be banned. Frankly I think you guys are too obsessed with the Nets in general and policing content about them in particular. It seems like you're not here to talk about the Knicks, Inf, but rather just to make sure people don't talk about the Nets.

Did you really say that we are too obsessed with the NYETS? That is just so funny. It's really the other way around. On our own forum there are people who are forever trying to persuade us to like and pay attention to the Nets and become Nets fans. How many times must we say don't care about the Nyets. We simply don't want to share our forum. Your obsession with Nets talk on our boards has reached a point where it's out of control. To come on our forum and create threads that's supporting people to jump ship is downright disrespectful. How can we talk Knicks basketball when there are intruders trying to invade our space? Frankly you are trying to use our forum to make the Nyets relevant.
We will be able to talk a lot of Knicks Basketball once all the Nyets threads are removed from our NY Knicks forum and placed in the NBA forum where they belong. THIS IS OUR HOUSE!

subzero0 wrote:infinitilov100 Would you please make out a list of approved subject matter that the rest of us on this site are allowed to post? We dont know and we need guidance. So far, thanks to you, all we know is that we are not allowed to talk about Jeremy Lin anymore, we are not allowed to talk about the Nets and we are not allowed to say Dolan is wrong in anyway... ever. Honestly, I cant see how we have all managed so long without your quick wit, intelligent wordplay and clever guidance. Why, if you werent here to set us straight there may be anarchy on this site, maybe even *gasp*, free speech! Could you imagine that?

Seriously though, are you and some of your cohorts being paid by MSG or something. This is surreal.

subzero0 wrote:infinitilov100 Would you please make out a list of approved subject matter that the rest of us on this site are allowed to post? We dont know and we need guidance. So far, thanks to you, all we know is that we are not allowed to talk about Jeremy Lin anymore, we are not allowed to talk about the Nets and we are not allowed to say Dolan is wrong in anyway... ever. Honestly, I cant see how we have all managed so long without your quick wit, intelligent wordplay and clever guidance. Why, if you werent here to set us straight there may be anarchy on this site, maybe even *gasp*, free speech! Could you imagine that?

Seriously though, are you and some of your cohorts being paid by MSG or something. This is surreal.

Nalod wrote:Maybe like when we say "****" or Shit(them thar 4 letter variety words" Martin can put in "N**ts" as such a workd this way Infiniti100 won't have to strain to read the letters.

I think whenever we mention any other team or a player on another team, the mods should do that. This is a Knicks forum after all! For example, I have translated this sentence below:

"On July 11, 2012, Camby was traded to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal that also involved Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, and two future draft picks going to the Rockets."

"On July 11, 2012, Camby was traded to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal that also involved ***** *******, **** *********, ****** ******, and two future ***** ***** going to the *******."

It's a little tricky because on July 10th, Camby was not a Knick and his name would have to have been bleeped out and all the others could legally be stated but today the reverse applies. (The draft picks are future non-Knicks. So they must be bleeped out too.) This policy will take a little extra work, but it will help purify this site.

arkrud wrote:This is free country (I hope) and free blog site (I hope).
There are the rules we have in the society and on this blog on how to politely express ourselves
All the rest is rubbish.

Bonn1997 wrote:

arkrud wrote:This is free country (I hope) and free blog site (I hope).
There are the rules we have in the society and on this blog on how to politely express ourselves
All the rest is rubbish.

+1
Obviously by now the moderators have heard and rejected the arguments of inf, crushalot, and other complainers.

You guys might actually need to go back and read the 2nd Amendment. What subjects that are allowed and/or moderated on a blog are not a Second Amendment right. The second amendment gives you the right to start your own blog with your own rules and on a topic of your choosing. As long as it's not treasonous or conspiring in illegal activities.

This thread is laughable. Started by a Nets sympathizer who grew up in Brooklyn who is the one proposing board rules to allow threads for the sole purpose of discussing the Nets. Supported by a Nets fansite owner and posters who seem to be Knick haters or fans who are perhaps so frustrated that a majority of what they post is negative concerning the Knicks....and who seem to only support the notion of "Nets talk" on this Knicks board in order to keep another outlet available to spew vitriol towards the Knicks. Anyone who challenges this is "trying to make the rules" or even "not for free speech".

Andrew and Martin will ultimately do what is right for how they want their site organized, whatever that is in terms of moderating threads based on the interest level and traffic. People come to this site to get news and read about the Knicks, after all, it is a Knick fan site. As an avid sports fan and site "reader" for many NY teams, I know I would take offense to say a NY Giants site that had a significant number of Jets, Eagles or Cowboys threads. Why would I continually go there as there when I am a biased fan and want to read/discuss the Giants. The same holds true here. As a Knicks site, I come here to read and get news about the Knicks. I would also expect a strong negative reaction to any threads and discussion on our cross town rivals. Perhaps Bonn, that is what you are hoping for?

foosballnick wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

arkrud wrote:This is free country (I hope) and free blog site (I hope).
There are the rules we have in the society and on this blog on how to politely express ourselves
All the rest is rubbish.

+1
Obviously by now the moderators have heard and rejected the arguments of inf, crushalot, and other complainers.

You guys might actually need to go back and read the 2nd Amendment. What subjects that are allowed and/or moderated on a blog are not a Second Amendment right. The second amendment gives you the right to start your own blog with your own rules and on a topic of your choosing. As long as it's not treasonous or conspiring in illegal activities.

This thread is laughable. Started by a Nets sympathizer who grew up in Brooklyn who is the one proposing board rules to allow threads for the sole purpose of discussing the Nets. Supported by a Nets fansite owner and posters who seem to be Knick haters or fans who are perhaps so frustrated that a majority of what they post is negative concerning the Knicks....and who seem to only support the notion of "Nets talk" on this Knicks board in order to keep another outlet available to spew vitriol towards the Knicks. Anyone who challenges this is "trying to make the rules" or even "not for free speech".

Andrew and Martin will ultimately do what is right for how they want their site organized, whatever that is in terms of moderating threads based on the interest level and traffic. People come to this site to get news and read about the Knicks, after all, it is a Knick fan site. As an avid sports fan and site "reader" for many NY teams, I know I would take offense to say a NY Giants site that had a significant number of Jets, Eagles or Cowboys threads. Why would I continually go there as there when I am a biased fan and want to read/discuss the Giants. The same holds true here. As a Knicks site, I come here to read and get news about the Knicks. I would also expect a strong negative reaction to any threads and discussion on our cross town rivals. Perhaps Bonn, that is what you are hoping for?

The reality is that for some fans it is hard to stomach that the rivalry between Knicks and Nets is even possible.
But Nets are good team now and get a prime location and huge possible fan base.
And I am talking the Knicks and how bad they fall to have the Knicks fan fear some f..ng Nets to grab some fan base in NY.
I do not consider fans who only looking on their bellowed team without comparing to other teams the real fans. This is just narcissism.