Jmpasq wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The idea that Lin forced the Rockets into adding a $15M season in his contract is hilarious. Why the hell would the Rockets agree to that? It was clearly the Rockets idea or something Lin's agent worked with the Rockets on.

You can't be mad at Lin if you tell him to get an offer - he's supposed to get the best offer for himself.

Exactly teh knicks for whatever reason told lin to get offers so it seems to me that they told lin taht they would match anyway. Look i dont care if they change their mind on lin but they could have come up with a better plan than felton

U think Lin would of taken a deal without testing FA. U guys are really eating out of the LIn camps hands

so... because Lin got a good offer from another team... he wanted to leave? when the knicks told him to find an offer to set a fair contract price?

exceptional logic there. i won't try to interfere with your mind powers.

Knicks could only offer 4 years 20 million thats why they told Lin to seek an offer sheet. Lin had a deal worked out then conspired with the Rockets to change the deal he verbally gave to the Knicks after they said they were going to match.Thats why i believe he wants to leave. I honestly get it. its a better situation for Lin in Houston. he will get to play more minutes and get to dominate the ball. Here the offense wont be driven by him. He may not even close games. His poor defense and penchant for TO's will lead him to ride the pine at the end of games.

Okay! Finally a basketball argument for Lin to leave. That I can respect. Almost every other reason I've seen for Lin leaving is "contract too high" or "he did something shady (by doing exactly what the knicks told him to do)"

I don't agree with your basketball reason, but I respect that it's actually a basketball reason instead of some made up sports radio mumbo jumbo.

My basketball answer is: I think JKidd and Lin would do well starting and finishing games together. You play Kidd the first 6 minutes of the game alongside Lin and then bring in JR. JR plays til 6 minutes left in the half, then Lin and Kidd finish it. Same with the second half.

Lin plays 36 minutes at PG. Kidd plays 20-24 minutes at SG. Linn is a scoring PG, Kidd is a passing SG who can hit the three. It's balance.

I think it would've worked great.

Anyway, I'm glad to actually see a basketball argument. Last thing I will say is that the Knicks were much better and more players got involved when the ball was "dominated" by Lin as opposed to Melo who gets his and kills the flow. Melo got out of the first round once in his life and I don't expect that to change.

Why that scenario of playing time is logical Im not completly sold that Woodson is as high on Lin as the NY fan base. I believe he will value JR Smiths or Shumperts "when he returns" defense over Lin on the floor.

Yeah, I think you're right. If they trusted Lin they wouldn't have foolishly chased Nash. It's clear they thought they needed a mentor for Lin or something, which Kidd probably could've done well. Non-issue now. Though I don't think Kidd is happy he was lied to by the Knicks that Lin would be back and now he's gotta try to teach Felton about eating right.

Maybe im wrong but I dont get the sense that Woodson fully believes in Lin. This and the fact Lin knows he may not be fully embraced by the Knicks players. This is why I think Lin wanted the deal changed.In Houston I believe they will let him play to his strengths. In NY I think Woodson may want a PG that does things differently and it will hurt Lins game. He will be more like an average PG then an up tempo facilitator.

I don't either think Woody is high on him. He freakin wanted BD to start over him right after Linsanity.

DJMUSIC wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:It's not a priveledge to pay in NY. 40 years without a title my friend

you gotta point Mr Bip
Dolan and folks in this era (Checketts , Gulf Western) got share blame in that
since $$$$ prioritize over building or developing a team to win it all

Yes, let's ignore an entire decade of going to the playoffs and winning records and two trips to the Finals. Yessiree Mr Bip the new answer man makes a great point; we are absolutely no different than the Golden State Warriors or the Denver Nuggets. Shee-it, we'd be better off being the Brooklyn Nyets, since it's only been...ummmmm...never since they won a chip...

Yeah, all Checketts did was oversee the Ewing era and get Pat Riley to almost coach us to the promised land. Yes indeedy imagine a corporation being more concerned with $$$$ than winning...jeez, how the hell could that be?

Consider the topic of the thread, and then read JR's actual quotes about why he signed with the Knicks. Amazing, isn't it?

“There were options for more money,’’ Smith said. “I’ve got money. I’ve been playing this game since I was 18. Money’s not the option. You can’t be on winning teams forever. I’ve been on losing teams. It’s not a great feeling.’’

Smith said he needs to be better after losing his shot in the playoffs, shooting 31 percent in the first-round exit against the Heat.

“I really didn’t want to go anywhere else,’’ he said. “I was comfortable with my situation. I got a great opportunity from the team to come in and help. I really think I didn’t do that last year. I think I got a lot to prove.”

Smith signed a $2.8 million contract with a player option for the season. The Knicks were unable to offer him more than a 20 percent raise. J.R. said he got a bigger offer, but wanted to be on a winner.