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7/15/2012  5:13 PM
biglove44 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this. His intention or not this has blown up in his face. He isn't the feel good story anymore. At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

Your anti-lin agenda is alarming. It's one thing to not like a player for his bball skills but to assume such negativity on someone's character is disgusting. You're speculating that he got a big head and forgot where he came from. That is ridiculous. His HS coach quoted (notice how this is a real person that has contact with lin on the regular, who isn't just some unnamed source!?!)that Lin turned down quite a few endorsement deals over the summer to focus on bball, because they took up too much time. That doesn't sound like someone who's got a big ego. Interesting, you would think that someone who "got a big head" would want all that fame and attention.

He's not a saint but he not the extreme of what your claim he is either.

Drop the agenda crap. I don't have one. I could care less if Lin comes back. I want the Knicks to win.

Now reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong point(you insult me, I insult you...now we are even) so let me walk you through this.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this.

He has portrayed an image as this humble, aw schucks kid. Undeniable. This is part of him that makes him a global draw.

His intention or not this has blown up in his face.

Lin's OWN QUOTE

"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."

How was my quote wrong?

At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

You must have missed the the last part. I made it a little more noticeable for you.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

Where am I drawing definitive judgments on his character? I am looking at this situation as a whole. I can think of a few guys I would rather have then Lin (including the guy the Rockets traded away to make room for him) and I can think of a few guards who I would never take above Lin.

While I won't go so far as saying you have a pro-Lin agenda because you have a different viewpoint of this situation as I do, I think it is obvious you are a Lin fan. Good Luck. I hope your guy comes back and helps the Knicks win.

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7/15/2012  5:18 PM
JamesLin wrote:Well, this is my take on this whole story.. and I'm sure it's not news to some of us already, but..

Jeremy Lin was grateful to get a chance to play for the Knicks in a big market.. he was on the bench praying for a chance to play at the mecca of basketball.. suddenly, starting pgs got injured or performed miserably, D'Antoni got frustrated... Jeremy continues to pray for that one chance and he got it! "Oh man, Carmelo still hurt and out. I gotta shine!" Jeremy screams in his head. So the next 10 days or so, he became the starter and boy did he shine! Not only he worked his ass off on the court and scored and assisted and rebounded and fell on his ass numerous of times, but he became the David vs Goliath fantasy. Fans adored him, and he continued to be flashy under D'Antoni's system. He proved everyone wrong and he wants the Knicks to get the championship after a 40-year drought and so he overworked himself. Then he got injured and played hurt like all the other Knicks, but it was too late. He was too young to know he was burning the candle at both ends for the Knicks that is paying him less than 800k a year as a new york golden boy. He realized his mistake, and now worries about the season ending knee surgery. He figures, hell, I helped the Knicks get into the playoff and also made the team lots of money from media influence and fans around the world. I will be okay. I'll go take the surgery and work my ass off again and pray and pray and maybe come back in second round playoff. That didn't happen and dust started to flare up in the Square.

So Jeremy Lin puts down the bible and continued his rehab with a leap of faith. Surgery was a success as easily predicted, but not his career. All of a sudden he realized the Knicks had no intention to resign him to a long term contract he believes he deserved for helping the team to reach the playoff. I mean he worked hard and suffered for it with his stupidity and sincerity. At the end, all he got was Mike Woodson, an interim coach to tell him everything will be okay. I mean can you trust a man with a perfect bushy goatee? So Jeremy just enjoyed his stay back in California and cancelled his trip to play for his country because he contract is up in the air unknown. He felt unappreciated but kept the bible close to his hands. If it worked once, it will work twice, right?

Then all of a sudden, Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey came by. Although he resembles Jimmy Dolan's style of business, any GM approaching is good news for Jeremy Lin. So Morey quietly said to Lin, "Hey, I know we let you go and didn't even try you out.. We realized we made a huge mistake and we don't want to end up with the Curse of the BamLino. Excuse my pun, but you know what I'm saying? You are our Babe Ruth and we know it now. The Knicks only gave you a chance because they had no other PGs left to play. They did the exact same thing as we did, except this time, we are taking actions. I want to sign you. Hey look, we got rid of all our PGs.. we want you, and we'll find a way to get Dwight Howard as well, but that's just between you and me. We're not liking that Scola kid. Anyway, back to my point. We want to sign you, and the offer will be goooood.. like biblical good." And so over dinner, they talked and talked and talked. Jeremy Lin suddenly felt like Cinderella all over again and the time is nowhere near midnight on July 11th. So he verbally agreed to take the offer in appreciation.

After the champagne buzz faded, he realized what has just happened. He talked to his agent about Morey's plan and his agent is liking the money.. i mean the idea behind all this. He told Jeremy guess what, the Knicks will match the offer I bet and Jeremy said, "Oh? You think so? You think they will match the offer, George?" "Yes, I will make that happen." So his agent went off to make sure the front office gets the memo, then he came back to Jeremy and said, "Guess what Jeremy! They said they will match any offers. Woodson even guaranteed in public that!" "Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I'm so happy now!"

Then Houston Rockets just realized the more deals they were making were making them digging a huge hole like the Knicks, and they are wary they are making a big mistake. So they came back to talk to Jeremy Lin, "Hey, so you think the Knicks will dare to match our offer because we really want you back. The fear of the 100 year curse is too much for us to bear." "Oh, don't worry about that. The Knicks are going to match any offers you got. I was told your 4 year deal is nothing.." "ORly?" said Morey. All of a sudden, Morey smiled and carefully approached Jeremy again and whispered, "Hey, you know about Jimmy Dolan right? Remember what he did for Allan Houston? Remember what he did for Carmelo? You can be that too you know. How about this.. I'm going to give you the maximum under the rules and see if the Knicks dare to walk the walk because we do care..." As Morey handed Jeremy Lin a shiny delicious Big Apple, Jeremy quickly signed the new offer sheet without a doubt because either way, one team will finally realize his 'loyalty' and 'potential'.

"THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?!?", screamed Isiah Thomas, standing half naked with a wife-beater on top and Jimmy Dolan's stuffed mouth on the bottom. As the staff members gathered together for an emergency meeting, Jimmy asked them as he wiped his lips clean, "Hey, remember we had a point guard but traded away for Melo? What's his name again? Let's get him back!" Everyone looked at each other in awe, not knowing why or how all this happened. The GM then brought in Felton from McDonalds to sign a fat contract while watching Camby signing his soul away.

We would have us Knicks fans as the Chorus, but hell, we suffered enough of this bullcrap drama. They all suck and we refuse to chant and sing as The Chorus and walked off the staged pissed. THE END.

Lin graduated from Harvard. I think you paint him as very naive. Remember he fired his agent and hooked up with a big name shark. He didn't do anything wrong but he understood the terms of his contract.

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7/15/2012  5:54 PM
Dude graduated from Harvard with an economics degree, he knew exactly what the terms of his contract and the possible ramifications of this 3rd year poison pill renegotiated deal.

Let's all face it, the innocence of aww shucks, only the Lord knows, sleeping on the couch isn't the same guy that's just grateful for the opportunity. He's bought into his own hype and is securing his own brand in Houston. He'll be taking his brand over to the old Yao fans, and making sure he puts up big numbers on bad teams.

Sad that it might end like this, if Knicks don't match(justifiably so). Linsanity was born in NY, but may have just died in Houston.

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7/15/2012  5:58 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Dude graduated from Harvard with an economics degree, he knew exactly what the terms of his contract and the possible ramifications of this 3rd year poison pill renegotiated deal.

Let's all face it, the innocence of aww shucks, only the Lord knows, sleeping on the couch isn't the same guy that's just grateful for the opportunity. He's bought into his own hype and is securing his own brand in Houston. He'll be taking his brand over to the old Yao fans, and making sure he puts up big numbers on bad teams.

Sad that it might end like this, if Knicks don't match(justifiably so). Linsanity was born in NY, but may have just died in Houston.

Well stated. +1

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7/15/2012  6:06 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Dude graduated from Harvard with an economics degree, he knew exactly what the terms of his contract and the possible ramifications of this 3rd year poison pill renegotiated deal.

Let's all face it, the innocence of aww shucks, only the Lord knows, sleeping on the couch isn't the same guy that's just grateful for the opportunity. He's bought into his own hype and is securing his own brand in Houston. He'll be taking his brand over to the old Yao fans, and making sure he puts up big numbers on bad teams.

Sad that it might end like this, if Knicks don't match(justifiably so). Linsanity was born in NY, but may have just died in Houston.

absolutely 100% correct.

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7/15/2012  6:26 PM
I find it hypocritically hilarious that many of the people saying that Lin had every right to use whatever leverage necessary to get his m-o-n-e-y(aka get Pizzaid/Cash that Cheese/get his Scrilla on) were the same ones castigating Mr Melo for doing exactly the same sort of thing by wanting to get his max deal before the lockout.
Why is it that Lin is seen as an astute & savvy Harvard economics graduate & Melo as a cancerous team killing financial drain, when the objective for both athletes is exactly the same???
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7/15/2012  6:30 PM
ActionJackson wrote:I find it hypocritically hilarious that many of the people saying that Lin had every right to use whatever leverage necessary to get his m-o-n-e-y(aka get Pizzaid/Cash that Cheese/get his Scrilla on) were the same ones castigating Mr Melo for doing exactly the same sort of thing by wanting to get his max deal before the lockout.
Why is it that Lin is seen as an astute & savvy Harvard economics graduate & Melo as a cancerous team killing financial drain, when the objective for both athletes is exactly the same???

This. Call it the Linfamous bias.

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7/15/2012  6:56 PM
Did he call Glen before signing this contract? Same goes for Landry? Why sign a contract with another team if you dont want to play for that team?

This whole matching thing is very similar to black mail and being similar, it doesnt really work.

Enjoy your new losing teams L&L. Maybe you guys can do that handshake and sleep on each others couches when your teams play each other.

Ridiculous!

Had enough Melo?
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7/15/2012  6:57 PM
holfresh wrote:Linbury tried to screw the Knicks by upping the ante in the third year of his deal...The kid has a big head...Next year I will be rooting wholeheartedly against him and the Rockets..Go Knicks!!!

I can't wait until he gets to the Garden... that's going to be one helluva a ticket. Hopefully Kidd knocks him out for the season again. $30 million for a guy made of glass and without a left hand seems a little nuts

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7/15/2012  7:25 PM
Since we don't yet know for sure if the Knicks are gonna sign Lin or not, I see no reason to burn any bridges by slamming him. I don't want to work myself into a lather learning to hate him only to discover he is on the team after all.
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7/15/2012  7:29 PM
BasketballJones wrote:Since we don't yet know for sure if the Knicks are gonna sign Lin or not, I see no reason to burn any bridges by slamming him. I don't want to work myself into a lather learning to hate him only to discover he is on the team after all.

I'm ready to move on without Lin but there's no reason to hate on the kid. He did what was best for him, same as every other player in the NBA. The kid turned 25 games into $25 million.

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7/15/2012  7:31 PM
Bleh this sucks. I hate the new collective bargaining agreement. Happy to have Felton and KT back... but yikes, we needed Lin. Sad day to be a Knicks fan. Oh well.
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7/15/2012  7:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2012  7:32 PM
CashMoney wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:Since we don't yet know for sure if the Knicks are gonna sign Lin or not, I see no reason to burn any bridges by slamming him. I don't want to work myself into a lather learning to hate him only to discover he is on the team after all.

I'm ready to move on without Lin but there's no reason to hate on the kid. He did what was best for him, same as every other player in the NBA. The kid turned 25 games into $25 million.

Yeah, I really don't see any villains here, just an f'd up system.

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7/15/2012  7:47 PM
Fuck this team. Every time we have something good going, we trade it or now let it walk for nothing. I know the contract was bad, but look, this could've been avoided. If paying Lin is such a big issue, why do we pay Novak so much?

Fuck this team. Camby was becoming a star in this league and we trade him and the #7 pick for McKnee. Gallinari and Felton looked to be becoming something special; traded for Carmelo Anthony. Lin is becoming something special. Now we lose him, but have Felton, Camby and KT back. Kidd signed here BASED ON Lin coming back. WHAT THE FUCK! I hate the way this organization is run. All of the positive offseason momentum we had is null and void. We're not even sniffing the upper eschelon without Lin, so screw it. Fail. Game over. Disappointed.

Not to mention we lost Jared Jeffries. I'm sorry, I like KT, but Jared Jeffries was a much more important piece for our defense. IMHO, with this last move, now we're in trouble. We'll see, I guess. We have three of the oldest players in the league; yes, mildly concerned is putting it mildly.

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7/15/2012  7:51 PM
if lin comes back it shall be interesting to see the reaction of some fans.

he will surely be hated even more. ahh...such is our way.

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7/15/2012  7:53 PM
PresIke wrote:if lin comes back it shall be interesting to see the reaction of some fans.

he will surely be hated even more. ahh...such is our way.

In this day and age, we can't seem to just wait and see how things develop before reacting.

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7/15/2012  8:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2012  8:19 PM
Markji wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:
Markji wrote:
ATrain wrote:
Markji wrote:Lin wanted to be signed by the Knicks. He likes Linsanity and all of the hype. And NY was the one place where he excelled as a basketball player. Nowhere's else.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

I'm sorry but Lin has to take some blame to. He has a Harvard Economics degree.....I'm not convinced he didn't have any idea that there was a chance it could play out this way. I know for a fact that Harvard does plenty of NBA, NFL, MLB case studies......For HBS and Economics students.

I agree that Lin takes some of the blame. But he is being advised and handled by an agent who renegotiated with Morey. Probably Lin gave him the go-ahead but Lin had no real experience in NBA negotiations and how to read/handle GMs and owners. Agents do. That's what they are paid for.

I think if lin could, he would take back the 2nd offer sheet. But he can't and is stuck with it.

Also, if the Knicks do match Houston's offer, what kind of welcome will the other Knicks along with the coaches give Lin. I think they are all pissed at him.

I doubt that the other Knicks players would really care, especially considering that they are all millionaires themselves. Some of them have already said that they're happy for him getting the deal.

If Lin was able to retract that 2nd offer, that would help calm the drama in the eyes of Knicks management and the segment of Knicks fans who, with good reason, are not pleased with the reworked deal. However, he can't, because he already signed it. He and his agent should have thought about that before they signed off on that idiotic "poison pill" deal.


You doubt??? Some have already expressed that are pissed. Melo calling the 3rd yr of Lin's contract "ridiculous". Woody pissed. Jeffries "amazed" but now he's gone too.

Vets are signing with the Knicks. They have bought into the fact that the Knicks are going for it all this year. And Lin is screwing it up if the Knicks don't match his "ridiculous" offer.

You're right. Other players are bothered by Lin's deal more than I initially expected.

I just read this, too:

As Anthony's comments would suggest, there could be concerns among the Knicks about Lin's contract and how it would be perceived by his teammates as well. Veteran shooting guard J.R. Smith, for example, is a far more established player in the league yet he recently signed a two-year deal that will pay him $2.8 million in the first season and has a player option in the second. In an interview with SI.com on Sunday, Smith spoke as if Lin would not return to New York. The Knicks, however, have not indicated that they made a decision as yet.

"I'm sure the city would love to have him back, but the team decided to go in a different direction," Smith said. "It's nothing personal, I don't think, just business. We just hope everybody can benefit from here.

"I don't really know how Mr. Dolan feels at this point with what the luxury tax is now and what it used to be, but I just hope it works out the best for both of them."

Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed.

"Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/07/15/jeremy-lin-rockets-knicks-free-agency/index.html#ixzz20ju7F2wf

I'l post that Sports Illustrated article in its entirety in a new thread.

What J.R. Smith is alluding to is a problem that can manifest into a BIG problem in the locker room. There are many players on the Knicks (and in the NBA in general) who have put in years of basketball, yet don't get deals like the one thrown at Lin. That kind of tension would destroy the focus of a team trying to contend for an NBA title.

Surely, Knicks management had already given this some thought, and could be a factor that led them to move on the Felton deal ASAP.

After all the "Linsanity" hype, and then this reworked, backloaded deal that Lin signed, whether he goes to Houston or if Grunwald's nuts shrink in the next 48 hours and they match, I can see Lin with a bullseye on his back this coming season. Opposing players will play Jeremy Lin extra hard. With his durability now also coming into question after that last injury, that may also be something the Knicks may be taking into consideration.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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7/15/2012  9:02 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:Since we don't yet know for sure if the Knicks are gonna sign Lin or not, I see no reason to burn any bridges by slamming him. I don't want to work myself into a lather learning to hate him only to discover he is on the team after all.

I'm ready to move on without Lin but there's no reason to hate on the kid. He did what was best for him, same as every other player in the NBA. The kid turned 25 games into $25 million.

Yeah, I really don't see any villains here, just an f'd up system.


Strange that a system which supposedly allows a team to match a contract to get their RFA back, has the "poison pill" loophole which basically allows the other team to make a balloon payment contract that hurts the team who is trying to keep their player, while letting the other team get off the hook by equalizing the payments as applied toward THEIR cap.

My understanding is that as far as Houston's cap goes, you are basically paying Lin $8.3M for the 3 years. Am I incorrect about this?

This actually hurts the smaller market teams, who will not want to pay their guy because of the cap penalty. A team which has planned well with their resources and contracts can get screwed, while a team that is making the poison pill contract will not be penalized in the same way if they hit by the ballon payments.

Seems to be a player's union desired part of the contract, I would think.

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7/15/2012  9:13 PM
ActionJackson wrote:I find it hypocritically hilarious that many of the people saying that Lin had every right to use whatever leverage necessary to get his m-o-n-e-y(aka get Pizzaid/Cash that Cheese/get his Scrilla on) were the same ones castigating Mr Melo for doing exactly the same sort of thing by wanting to get his max deal before the lockout.
Why is it that Lin is seen as an astute & savvy Harvard economics graduate & Melo as a cancerous team killing financial drain, when the objective for both athletes is exactly the same???

well said.

"those" people must have you on ignore since they haven't responded

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7/15/2012  9:16 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:I find it hypocritically hilarious that many of the people saying that Lin had every right to use whatever leverage necessary to get his m-o-n-e-y(aka get Pizzaid/Cash that Cheese/get his Scrilla on) were the same ones castigating Mr Melo for doing exactly the same sort of thing by wanting to get his max deal before the lockout.
Why is it that Lin is seen as an astute & savvy Harvard economics graduate & Melo as a cancerous team killing financial drain, when the objective for both athletes is exactly the same???

well said.

"those" people must have you on ignore since they haven't responded

Cause Melo is a malignant cancer mole and Lin is a beautiful freckle

aww, lin misses nyk already...

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