EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:A few questions: How do you know Lin went back and renegotiated the deal? Is it because ESPN told you so? Why do you care? Is it wrong every time two parties change the details to an offer?

I would say so...how do you deal with them again....trust is gone

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:A few questions: How do you know Lin went back and renegotiated the deal? Is it because ESPN told you so? Why do you care? Is it wrong every time two parties change the details to an offer?

I look at like this: Houston run by an office full of pricks, and decided to give Lin a better deal. It's like a mini-H20 setting. What's Lin supposed to do, say, 'NO! DON'T PAY ME!'

anyway, not really the end of the world. Lin either lives up to a ONE-YEAR max salary or doesn't. Either way, when everyone expires, we find out if Lin is as good as Linsanity

Also - I haven't seen anyone say this - but I thought I read either here or in the press that people basically thought Houston did us a favor with the contract - Lin's agent probably went back and said - either up it or we're finding someone else to deal with. And then there was the Camby trade which might have been read as done in response to Lin's deal.

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:A few questions: How do you know Lin went back and renegotiated the deal? Is it because ESPN told you so? Why do you care? Is it wrong every time two parties change the details to an offer?

I look at like this: Houston run by an office full of pricks, and decided to give Lin a better deal. It's like a mini-H20 setting. What's Lin supposed to do, say, 'NO! DON'T PAY ME!'

anyway, not really the end of the world. Lin either lives up to a ONE-YEAR max salary or doesn't. Either way, when everyone expires, we find out if Lin is as good as Linsanity

franco12 wrote:Lin's money is only questionable in year three - but if you amortize the deal over three years, its not that bad.

If he stinks in year three, he either doesn't get renewed, or he's got value as an ending contract that goes to a team with no plans to bring him back.

Fields goes, but we need to match Lin and I will be crushed if we let him walk for nothing.

We fully knew he could end up with this kind of contract, and he may very well be worth every penny.

Maybe with Woodson's system, we don't care about what kind of PG we put out there.

Maybe there is a whole season of 'toss the ball to Melo' and stand back.

That was so efficient for us last year

BINGO - Melo is after all an Elite Scorer disguised as a black hole on offense.

Bonn1997 wrote:A few questions: How do you know Lin went back and renegotiated the deal? Is it because ESPN told you so? Why do you care? Is it wrong every time two parties change the details to an offer?

It's only wrong because most fans are unable to separate the financial part of the sport with how loyal they want a player to be to their team. This is a business, it's a job for players. They are perfectly entitled to go out and get as much as they can on the open market. All things considered, the Lin deal is not a bad one. The Knicks are already saddled with the big three contracts, Kidd, Camby, etc,,,,and will be over the Apron threshold. Signing Lin back is a prudent business decision at the reported salary. All this bluster by fans that he is disloyal or not the same is BS.

loweyecue wrote:I would have loved to see Lin paly here and learning from Kidd, Kidd said that was a big part of why he came here. Now we went and got Felton all that is a moot point. I like Felton and I like Lin. But I think Lin will get stifled by Woody and I would rather watch him grow and realize his potential. Felton has no potential beyond what he is, Lin can be an elite PG. Too bad our coach and our Diva are not interested in seeing that happen. Politics is a bitch.

s3231 wrote:FWIW.....Lin's trainer thinks we will match...although Jeffries doesn't think so.

Eeesh, can't take this crap....I almost don't want to read anything until something becomes official.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22082/jeffries-i-never-thought-theyd-let-lin-go

I keep on reading stuff like this but, honestly, those guys have no more insight into Dolan's and Grunwald's thought process than anyone else.

misterearl wrote:Day One, Sometime in October

Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton square during the first full speed five on five. No one dares get between them as angry taunts turn into a scuffle that interrupts practice for 20 minutes. Memories of Antony Mason vs Xavier McDaniel. Mike Woodson smiles. Pablo Priglioni calls next.

JR Smith refines his defensive moves against Steve Novak, still learning how to shake free on the perimeter. Iman Shumpert rides a bicycle on the sidelines.

Carmelo gets his jumpshot snatched by James White in mid air. The video goes viral.

Kurt Thomas gets physical with Amar'e Stoudemire and hisses, "baby I'm back." Chris Copeland never suits up but wears some nice suits.

Marcus Camby and Tyson Chandler are inseparable. Art Parakhouski lugs all the equipment bags from the hotel lobby to the team bus for a month.

Glen Grunwald pulls off an opening night blockbuster that no one sees coming.

Read "The Winner Within" recently, Earl?