RonRon wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Tyson-Camby-JJ-Shump-Kidd - Now that's defense! - Reserved for times when we go up by 20+ pts.

If Camby can play that role it would be great, I am just not sure if he would be able to at his age.
AK47 would be a player that can fit with that role and be part of our anchor of defense with Iman and Tyson Chandler.

YABBUT they are not looking at AK47, does the old rifle still shoot?

RonRon wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

Camby's current starting point for salary, sources said, is $3 million per season on a multiyear deal. The only way for the Heat to make that work is a sign-and-trade with the Houston Rockets, who own Camby's rights. The Rockets, however, are interested in a sign-and-trade with the Knicks but not with the Heat, sources told ESPN.com.

So it looks like we have pieces they want, probably including Toney Douglas given their gaping hole at PG. And it probably means we give up Harrelson, but I don't like that too much. If Greek Papa was coming next year it would be ok, but this still leaves us with only 3 legitimate 4/5's in STAT, Chandler, and Camby. Need another one on the cheap.

Jeffries will probably be back at the vets minimum.

would it be wrong for Jeffries to want a deal like the one Reggie Evans got for 3 years 5m from the Nets?
I think we have his early bird rights, while it isn't much of a difference for a 3 year veteran minimum deal, it gives stability to a player.
We should make more of these type of deals to balance our roster out for stability.
Players like Cory Brewer and Nick Collison are role players, but they are needed to insure their future on the team.
They might not play big minutes but there roles are just as important.

JJ has been with team for 1 year, so no bird rights.

And if Reggie Evans got 3 years for 5M, that's a hint over the vet min.

Jmpasq wrote:How are we potientally keeping JR Smith with all these signings we have no cap room and dont own his bird rights

you can always resign players that you have not released (and even if they opt out). I think I worded that correctly.

For JR, there is a limit to what his raise can be: his max contract with Knicks (if they don't use MLE on him) is $2.8M

Jmpasq wrote:

martin wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:How are we potientally keeping JR Smith with all these signings we have no cap room and dont own his bird rights

you can always resign players that you have not released (and even if they opt out). I think I worded that correctly.

For JR, there is a limit to what his raise can be: his max contract with Knicks (if they don't use MLE on him) is $2.8M

Oh okay cool.Smith should resign and get his bird rights with us. Sign his brother as a show of good faith in him taking less money

I think that is part of the reason why JR Smith might stay a Knick, because we will offer a contract to his brother.
JR Smith is worth much more than the 2.8m 1 year deal, in the range of 3-6m per year at a multi year deal.
But by giving his brother a contract, they can stay close to home, and give his brother some of the $ and opportunity to establish himself in the league.

loweyecue wrote:Tyson-Camby-JJ-Shump-Kidd - Now that's defense! - Reserved for times when we go up by 20+ pts.

Ron Artest was ineffective vs Durant/Harden, I am not sure if he would be able to guard Lebron with his lack of speed.
But he still would be a nice body to give him some fouls and make Lebron exert more energy if he wanted to post Artest up.
I am not sure if anyone would pick up Ron Artest as an amnesty with 2 years left.
But for the vet minimum, he is a player that I think could have a role on this team.

Uptown wrote:In the end, I think Camby wants to start. Wont get more than 15-18 mins behind Chandler. He starts right away with the Heat.

Only way Camby goes to Heat is if he takes vet min, which he said he would not. I guess he could change his mind.

Jmpasq wrote:I think we can find 24 minutes for Camby, Jeffries averaged 19. Camby cant stay healthy dude shouldnt play more then that. I wonder what playing Chandler and Camby together would be like.

Chandler and Camby would be on the floor together a lot against Miami.

VCoug wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I think we can find 24 minutes for Camby, Jeffries averaged 19. Camby cant stay healthy dude shouldnt play more then that. I wonder what playing Chandler and Camby together would be like.

Chandler and Camby would be on the floor together a lot against Miami.

I don't know if that would work. During the Finals OKC's lineup with Ibaka and Perkins didn't work very well.

Yeah, it most likely wont work against Miami. They can force them in to a jump shooting team at best, praying that they will miss, OPEN SHOTS.
If you put Camby at PF, Lebron might not be able to post on him but Camby cannot step out to guard his penetration/shot.