IrishKnickFan wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I was convince after the Laker game, no I take that back..When he got some run in that Rockets game,he got about 20 minutes and had 6 ast, at the time.. that was what TD had in his 3 previous games combine.

Just like Genty with the suns when he only tweeked MDA's play book after he was gone because of nash, I don't see woodson Implemeting a whole new system, especially after seeing how successfull it was for Lin.

whats also note worthy, you always here how hard he works, so believe or not, Lin is our best shot we have to making this title run serious..

Ya I mean people who dont like lin bring up the heat game but it was one game and lin was exhausted so i dont put too much stock in that. If we are healthy and we can get a good backup pg, and get lucky with some good veterans like a camby,terry,felton we should be ok

the heat are also one of the best defensive teams in the league, especially if they can focus on shutting down one guy. knicks need to work on ball movement and have another playmaker involved.

but, yeah, it showed lin was not invincible... which he's not. he's still a very promising young guard though.

anyone else terrified that dragic is asking for $10M a year? i always though lin and dragic would get similar offers...

very few guys are invincible outsude of lebron

Dragic is a little more proven then lin, rather a lot more proven, if lin had another yr under his belt of proven he's no fluke, i can see him getting 10/11 mill easy.

Heat are good defensively regardless to who's our pg, you beat them by having 2 PG's on the court, who can drive and knock down threes (simialr to dallas last yr, terry, kidd, barea) you make them pay for traping, and dallas had one of those 3 burrying wide open back breaking three's.

Ironically both Rondo and Westbrook had aleast one monster game against the heat during the playoffs(westbrook a 43 pt game, Rondo a 44pt game) and lost. Both game saw Harden struggle from DT, and PP and allen struggle horrible, missing wide open threes.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

RonRon wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I was convince after the Laker game, no I take that back..When he got some run in that Rockets game,he got about 20 minutes and had 6 ast, at the time.. that was what TD had in his 3 previous games combine.

Just like Genty with the suns when he only tweeked MDA's play book after he was gone because of nash, I don't see woodson Implemeting a whole new system, especially after seeing how successfull it was for Lin.

whats also note worthy, you always here how hard he works, so believe or not, Lin is our best shot we have to making this title run serious..

Ya I mean people who dont like lin bring up the heat game but it was one game and lin was exhausted so i dont put too much stock in that. If we are healthy and we can get a good backup pg, and get lucky with some good veterans like a camby,terry,felton we should be ok

the heat are also one of the best defensive teams in the league, especially if they can focus on shutting down one guy. knicks need to work on ball movement and have another playmaker involved.

but, yeah, it showed lin was not invincible... which he's not. he's still a very promising young guard though.

anyone else terrified that dragic is asking for $10M a year? i always though lin and dragic would get similar offers...

Dragic has payed his dues, and wasn't injured this off season.
He has good size and can play 2 positions, I think he is ahead of Lin by far.
Not saying Lin cannot be better, but he still has a lot to prove.

not sold on dragic i think he is being overrated. im not saying he cant be an all-star but he has a ways to go

I think he is the real deal, I have always liked him, but it took him some time to get his confidence going.
Playing vs 2nd unit and playing vs the starters, was totally a different competition and it took him some time to adjust.

I remember guys jocking Curry and he has bad ankles.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

RonRon wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

RonRon wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I was convince after the Laker game, no I take that back..When he got some run in that Rockets game,he got about 20 minutes and had 6 ast, at the time.. that was what TD had in his 3 previous games combine.

Just like Genty with the suns when he only tweeked MDA's play book after he was gone because of nash, I don't see woodson Implemeting a whole new system, especially after seeing how successfull it was for Lin.

whats also note worthy, you always here how hard he works, so believe or not, Lin is our best shot we have to making this title run serious..

Ya I mean people who dont like lin bring up the heat game but it was one game and lin was exhausted so i dont put too much stock in that. If we are healthy and we can get a good backup pg, and get lucky with some good veterans like a camby,terry,felton we should be ok

the heat are also one of the best defensive teams in the league, especially if they can focus on shutting down one guy. knicks need to work on ball movement and have another playmaker involved.

but, yeah, it showed lin was not invincible... which he's not. he's still a very promising young guard though.

anyone else terrified that dragic is asking for $10M a year? i always though lin and dragic would get similar offers...

Dragic has payed his dues, and wasn't injured this off season.
He has good size and can play 2 positions, I think he is ahead of Lin by far.
Not saying Lin cannot be better, but he still has a lot to prove.

not sold on dragic i think he is being overrated. im not saying he cant be an all-star but he has a ways to go

I think he is the real deal, I have always liked him, but it took him some time to get his confidence going.
Playing vs 2nd unit and playing vs the starters, was totally a different competition and it took him some time to adjust.

Im not saying he is a scrub but some talk like he is already a top pg he still has a ways to go. I mean im a big fan of lin b ut i never felt lin is gonna be a top 3 pg and we dont need him to be we just need him to be a good pg

He may not be top 3 now, but he's top 10 and climbing, as long as the system he plays in utilize him correctly. Give him the freedom to make the decision and don't curb it by forcing the ball to melo or Amare..Exactly what Woodson did to Baron Davis in the playoffs..

The kid plays on instincs and smarts, and the 2 telling games was the Laker game and the game winning shot against the Rapts..To many times coaches have taken away the pg's job to lead by calling to many set plays..doc river has bump heads with rondo so many times until rivers finally thru his hands in the air and gave him the reigns.

when you here mostly every NBA player say most of Lins success has come because of MDA's system(and I'm not saying he wouldn't be good in a traditional system) i'm just thinking, you can't set this kid up to be a ordianry play maker, let him create on his own.

AnubisADL wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:He may not be top 3 now, but he's top 10 and climbing, as long as the system he plays in utilize him correctly. Give him the freedom to make the decision and don't curb it by forcing the ball to melo or Amare..Exactly what Woodson did to Baron Davis in the playoffs..

The kid plays on instincs and smarts, and the 2 telling games was the Laker game and the game winning shot against the Rapts..To many times coaches have taken away the pg's job to lead by calling to many set plays..doc river has bump heads with rondo so many times until rivers finally thru his hands in the air and gave him the reigns.

when you here mostly every NBA player say most of Lins success has come because of MDA's system(and I'm not saying he wouldn't be good in a traditional system) i'm just thinking, you can't set this kid up to be a ordianry play maker, let him create on his own.

Of course Lin was best when he was FREELANCING many PG's are. Problem is that guys dont know where to be when they are standing around watching.

Lin is going to have to play within the offense and freelance sometime not ALL the time.

y2zipper wrote:If the Knicks keep everybody and use the 3 million dollar exception to sign Raymond Felton to back up Lin, I wouldn't find a reason to be unhappy with the team on paper. The Knicks are going with Lin as the definitive starter barring an unrealistic sign and trade for Steve Nash, and that's what they should do. Yes, Lin needs to stay healthy. Shooting guard is going to be a question mark until Shumpert gets back, but that's true no matter what.

I agree completely with this.

Felton is my number 1 choice of the tier B options... barring the unthinkable and the Knicks get Nash. That would be... unthinkable.

holfresh wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:Gonna be interesting...Melo, Lin and Amare needs lots of touches to be successful...

well really its about sacrificing ones game. I mean melo cant cry if he doesnt get isosn 40 times every game, and Amare needs to be more active even when he isnt gteting the ball. Lin i feel would rather dish than score all teh time i mean he'll score if we need him to but really our two stars need to be able to scarifice their point total for teh good of the team

Well I think Amare should be getting 15/18 shots a game..Lin takes more shots than Amare when they play together...Melo is the least of my worries, he can adjust to Amare getting more touches...

I agree. They have to find a way to get Amare 15-18 shots a game.It will be a lot easier if he can hit his 17 foot jumper. It would also be easier if he was the 6th man. Then they can run the offense through him while Melo was on the bench. His D might not be so putrid against 2nd stringers as well